John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Neamhshuntasach

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

And it makes you laugh that we then "restructed" our scouting system asking lads who've been doing it awhile to do it for expenses only now while JD gets rent paid while earning €500k+ before expenses and asking new lads to do it for some match tickets and a bit of gear.

https://www.balls.ie/football/irish-football-scouting-406281

This story has more legs than a centipede. Heroin involved now too.

Zico !

There's nothing concrete to get rid of him Sunday's have nothing juicy on him afraid he's here for another while yet

Irishmale0399

On another note......the FAI must have stopped paying all overtime.....No Chancer or Dots today defending the great leader.

Pedro K

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

The next JD drama....neck like a jockeys bol.....

https://www.thesun.ie/news/3929483/fai-john-delaney-jobbridge-scheme/

The standard of the paper fit perfectly to the man in question....

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057931201/54/#post109766694

Like I said earlier in the thread!

Pedro K wrote: »

A friend of mine works in HR. She has a considerable number of years experience, and all of the relevant education and qualifications. When she was looking for a new job a while ago a colleague knew she was a huge football fan and sent her a link for a job at the FAI requiring her level of education and experience. It was a Jobsbridge scheme.

In 2012, the FAI were in the Labour court defending pay cuts they implemented to regular staff, all the while Delaney is on his monstrous salary.

Clubs went bust while he was on the piss in Poland. It's easy to say that's the club's fault, but it's not easy to run a club when the FAI charge 19k fees to clubs to play in the LOI, and pay less into the entire premier Division prize pot than they do to their CEO (when you include his rent). Fines for singing anti Delaney songs don't help either.

His rent alone is twice the average wage of a LOI footballer.

This is the organisation JD has been the head of for 14 years.

Any improvements in the LOI have been in spite of the FAI, not because of them.

Anyone defending Delaney or his record needs their head shook.

Chancer3001

Nothing to defend.

This 300 euro a day expenses is paid by uefa. Its a standard payment

Whoever was there would be getting it. I assume every fa head gets it.

As somebody else posted, zero news in the sunday papers.

Last i read theyd appointed an outside auditing firm to look into accounts to ensure everything is ok. Great move

The Talking Bread

Do you not consider that Delaney receiving that level of expenses from UEFA, makes even more a mockery of his extortionate financial arrangement with the FAI !

Imagine paying 3k a month rent for a millionaire CEO knowing he is getting 3k a day expenses (when on duty) (on top of his salary) from UEFA !

"Nothing to defend"

expectationlost

https://www.sportireland.ie/Media/Latest_News/Sport%20Ireland%20Statement%20on%20FAI.html

Sport Ireland was not notified at any stage in 2017 about any apparent material deterioration in the FAI’s financial position, as per Sport Ireland’s Terms and Conditions of Grant Approval

which doc is that?

Zebra3

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Nothing to defend.

This 300 euro a day expenses is paid by uefa. Its a standard payment

Whoever was there would be getting it. I assume every fa head gets it.

As somebody else posted, zero news in the sunday papers.

Last i read theyd appointed an outside auditing firm to look into accounts to ensure everything is ok. Great move

A standard payment?

He gets an extra 300€ a day for the days he has to work on top of his six figure salary for a part-time job while he holds another six figure salary at the taxpayer funded FAI while some staff at the FAI have suffered years of pay cuts and Delaney promised to reinstate their pay cuts yet still hasn't.

Unreal.

Cyrus

Are we all now familiar with the concept of a CEO getting paid way more than rank and file staff ?

givyjoe

Cyrus wrote: »

Are we all now familiar with the concept of a CEO getting paid way more than rank and file staff ?

Theres usually an acceptable ratio from CEO to average salary. Are you seriously going to try and justify 350k for the CEO of the fa fcuking I?! How many times do we need to point to his peers across Europe, and just how far out of whack his salary is.

He's claimed before he's worth his salary and he'd get it, or more, elsewhere.. if that was the case, he wouldn't be taking the massive paycut to stay in the fai.

Irishmale0399

givyjoe wrote: »

Theres usually an acceptable ratio from CEO to average salary. Are you seriously going to try and justify 350k for the CEO of the fa fcuking I?! How many times do we need to point to his peers across Europe, and just how far out of whack his salary is.

He's claimed before he's worth his salary and he'd get it, or more, elsewhere.. if that was the case, he wouldn't be taking the massive paycut to stay in the fai.

The average FA CEO earns between €80.000 and €150.000, Italy, Germany, England, Scotland, Holland....all earn less than JD and their FAs seem to be in a better position. Can you justify JDs salary???

Cyrus

givyjoe wrote: »

Theres usually an acceptable ratio from CEO to average salary.

Not that I've heard of and anyway what's the ratio at the fai?

Cyrus

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

The average FA CEO earns between €80.000 and €150.000, Italy, Germany, England, Scotland, Holland....all earn less than JD and their FAs seem to be in a better position. Can you justify JDs salary???

I'd check your sources

Irishmale0399

Cyrus wrote: »

I'd check your sources

If your in the know and want to call me on it...prove me wrong. I have my sources....no real secret Europe wide what CEOs (in some countries they are refered to as FA Presidents) are getting.

Cyrus

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

If your in the know and want to call me on it...prove me wrong. I have my sources....no real secret Europe wide what CEOs (in some countries they are refered to as FA Presidents) are getting.

martin glenn took a massive pay cut to take the english version and still makes way more than JD and thats the first one i checked

so again

check your sources

Irishmale0399

Martin Glenn took a paycut in 2015 and 2017 further setoff his other football incomes against his FA income....current income of about 350,000p.a. and that as the CEO of the worlds wealthiest league. He increased income by over 40% in his time in charge....allowing the FA to invest 127 million pounds in the financial year ending July 2017.

What have the FAI earned and invested in the same year???

Before you run off...the DFB pay 120,000 max plus other incomes are offset against that income. KBNV pay around 110,000.....

Cyrus

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Martin Glenn took a paycut in 2015 and 2017 further setoff his other football incomes against his FA income....current income of about 350,000p.a. and that as the CEO of the worlds wealthiest league. He increased income by over 40% in his time in charge....allowing the FA to invest 127 million pounds in the financial year ending July 2017.

What have the FAI earned and invested in the same year???

Before you run off...the DFB pay 120,000 max plus other incomes are offset against that income. KBNV pay around 110,000.....

So Glenn earns more than Delaney , you should correct your post

Ian Maxwell is £300k a year so similar to Delaney as well

I'm not defending Delaney I don't care I just take issue with the loose chat that normally follows any discussion on CEO pay

Irishmale0399

Cyrus wrote: »

So Glenn earns more than Delaney , you should correct your post

Please list all JDs football income, dont forget the perks.....:rolleyes:


FAI 360,000

UEFA 160,000 (earned on FAI time)

Rent 36,000

UEFA expenses (estimated by Dec Casey at 80-100 days per year) 300 x 80- 24,000


Total approx: €580,000 not including his FAI expenses

Cyrus

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Please list all JDs football income, dont forget the perks.....:rolleyes:


FAI 360,000

UEFA 160,000 (earned on FAI time)

Rent 36,000

UEFA expenses (estimated by Dec Casey at 80-100 days per year) 300 x 80- 24,000


Total approx: €580,000 not including his FAI expenses

Didn't he forego his uefa salary or donate it to the fai ?

Don't the rest of them earn the same and have the same expense allowances (and they will incur expenses I'm sure )

I'm not privy to rent arrangements for the other CEOs they may well have them. At least try to be balanced.

And roll eyes really

Irishmale0399

Cyrus wrote: »

Didn't he forego his uefa salary or donate it to the fai ?

Don't the rest of them earn the same and have the same expense allowances (and they will incur expenses I'm sure )

I'm not privy to rent arrangements for the other CEOs they may well have them. At least try to be balanced.

And roll eyes really

He claims to have foregon his UEFA salary...however no one can prove it or find it in accounts to date. Additionally he gave a loan to the FAI and then also issued an invoice. Meaning in the basic principles of accounting that he would be repaid twice....maybe a way of getting the UEFA money back.


No most other FA leaders have transparent systems and declare publically that they will give the money to the FA or donate it.


His rent arrangment is public and having worked for a number of international companies earning/turning-over much more than the FAI its a strange one*, acceptable for ex-pat managers or people commuting but definately not locals. Especially as the rent payment started around the same time as he took a public paycut that the FAI comittee didnt want him to take.


Basic fact remains....the CEO has done nothing for transparency. Additionally statements of support from grassroots people are resulting in clubs distancing themselves from the named statements.



*good example is the former joint Aldi UK CEO...moved his family from Germany to the UK. Was housed for 1 year, then received an interest free loan from the company to buy a house.

givyjoe

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

The average FA CEO earns between €80.000 and €150.000, Italy, Germany, England, Scotland, Holland....all earn less than JD and their FAs seem to be in a better position. Can you justify JDs salary???

Are you asking me? The point I was making was no..you cant.

Chancer3001

Donated his uefa salary last i read.

And we live in a world where our taoiseachgets paid more than the US president.

These disparities dont make me want to sack the board tho. The google ceo gets paid 200m a year.

If his salary is still the main stick to beat the man...that says it all

givyjoe

Cyrus wrote: »

martin glenn took a massive pay cut to take the english version and still makes way more than JD and thats the first one i checked

so again

check your sources

You mean the only one you checked. And the CEO of a country with the richest league in the world and a population of 50 mil. Yeah, comparable alright.

givyjoe

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Donated his uefa salary last i read.

And we live in a world where our taoiseachgets paid more than the US president.

These disparities dont make me want to sack the board tho. The google ceo gets paid 200m a year.

If his salary is still the main stick to beat the man...that says it all

It isn't a single stick.. there's a forest ffs. Embarrassing post from you, again.

Seriously, at least come clean about what your connection is to JD/FAI.

Cyrus

givyjoe wrote: »

You mean the only one you checked. And the CEO of a country with the richest league in the world and a population of 50 mil. Yeah, comparable alright.

Wasn't me comparing them and I only had to check one to prove my point I knew it sounded wrong and it was

Chancer3001

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Donated his uefa salary last i read.

And we live in a world where our taoiseachgets paid more than the US president.

These disparities dont make me want to sack the board tho. The google ceo gets paid 200m a year.

If his salary is still the main stick to beat the man...that says it all

Google are a private enterprise estimated to be worth 739 billion dollars. Hardly a like for like example. Their shareholders voted on his salary as he is meeting the objective of making them richer every year.

The FAI, while predominately privately funded by ticket sales, gate receipts, etc, they have stakeholders who are mostly volunteers that are giving their free time for the betterment of Irish football and yet at the top, Delaney and the board are the ultimate 'post turtle'.

givyjoe

Cyrus wrote: »

Wasn't me comparing them and I only had to check one to prove my point I knew it sounded wrong and it was

Except you haven't proved your point. Youre comparing the CEO of the English fa to the Irish one. Exception and rule.. ever heard of that?

twowheelsonly

Delaneys wages have always been the main stick to beat him with. People forget however that he inherited this level of wage. Fran Rooney, his predecessor, started on €250,000 in 2003, which was pre-Celtic Tiger days.
His wage is coming back to haunt him now though, particularly given the relevations about staff wages and pay cuts. Apart from that though an awful lot of this 'controversy' is a load of fluff and seems to me just like a concerted effort to move him on without doing anything about the whole structure.

Meanwhile a €2bn hospital has disappeared from the front pages and 10,000+ people are homeless tonight (that got one day of news....) while our Government twiddles their thumbs. They must be delighted with Delaney and praying he stays on for a while yet !!

twowheelsonly

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Delaneys wages have always been the main stick to beat him with. People forget however that he inherited this level of wage. Fran Rooney, his predecessor, started on €250,000 in 2003, which was pre-Celtic Tiger days.
His wage is coming back to haunt him now though, particularly given the relevations about staff wages and pay cuts. Apart from that though an awful lot of this 'controversy' is a load of fluff and seems to me just like a concerted effort to move him on without doing anything about the whole structure.

Meanwhile a €2bn hospital has disappeared from the front pages and 10,000+ people are homeless tonight (that got one day of news....) while our Government twiddles their thumbs. They must be delighted with Delaney and praying he stays on for a while yet !!

For me, the prospect of any Irish government PAC grilling Delaney is simply laughable. it's like expecting Mussolini to put Hitler on trial for war crimes. Makes no sense. There is no way on earth that the Government is going to ask the FAI the necessary questions because I would put a bet on it that they all have loads of sh1t on each other. John Delaney could learn loads from Michael D for example.

irishgeo

Deleted User wrote: »

For me, the prospect of any Irish government PAC grilling Delaney is simply laughable. it's like expecting Mussolini to put Hitler on trial for war crimes. Makes no sense. There is no way on earth that the Government is going to ask the FAI the necessary questions because I would put a bet on it that they all have loads of sh1t on each other. John Delaney could learn loads from Michael D for example.

Noel rock seems pretty interested.