European Parliament Elections 2019

MFPM

onetimecypher wrote: »

Neither Wallace or Daly "HAVE" to take there seat in europe. All candidates have to nominate an alternate to take their place if they chose not to take the seat.

Once again we have UNELECTED people representing us in europe.

I know in Daly's case her alternate is a deaf person.

In Peter Casey's case he nominated his wife

In Frances Fitzgeralds case she nominated another FG candidate who also then nominated her to cover both angles

Wallace and daly have both stated they will take their seats.

The 'deaf person' is Micheal Kelliher and he's number 5 on the replacement list, David Gibney of UNITE is number 1.

ancapailldorcha

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MeTheMan

road_high wrote: »

What has he done that’s been so outstanding?

He voted against article 17. He secured 21 million extra funding for leitrim farmers. Just two things that come to mind. He's also very approachable and if you look at his social media's you'll see he responds to the peoples question.
Who was your number 1? What have they done?

rdwight

robman60 wrote: »

It's a bit late at night for explaining but a 4% margin of error and a candidate gets 10%, then 4% of 10 = 0.4% means they would be 9.6-10.4% if they fall within the margin of error. Remember margin of error only accounts for sampling variance though, not people lying or just getting an unrepresentative sample for other reasons.

I believe it means that the expected vote would be between 6% and 14%.

Eric Cartman

Surprising upturn for the greens, can already see how its going to hurt the motorist in every way , we have short memories for them.

Interesting downturn for ming

Beechwoodspark

A good day for the greens seemingly

greens always were very transfer friendly as well

SF had a disappointing day according to reports

Hurrache

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Surprising upturn for the greens, can already see how its going to hurt the motorist in every way

Such as?

Genghis

rdwight wrote: »

I believe it means that the expected vote would be between 6% and 14%.

I believe this is the correct explanation.

nice_guy80

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Surprising upturn for the greens, can already see how its going to hurt the motorist in every way , we have short memories for them.

Interesting downturn for ming

FG have been kicking this can down the road for 10 years now

Eric Cartman

Hurrache wrote: »

Such as?

On a dublin/local level , removal of parking spaces, congestion charging, low emissions zones...

On an EU level committing Ireland to emissions levels or renewable program targets that require penalties and taxation back here to meet

Tell me how

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Surprising upturn for the greens, can already see how its going to hurt the motorist in every way , we have short memories for them.

Interesting downturn for ming

Say you are right. What will the implications be?

Greens enact carbon taxes
Cost of motoring increases
People become frustrated
People demand alternative options
Governments increase support for public transport and cycling initiatives.
People become less frustrated

None of it is going to happen overnight, but people should be happy.

Say a car costs you the following, on average, per week.
Repayments - 40
Fuel - 40
Insurance - 15
Tax - 5
Maintenance - 5
Tolls - 6

That's 111/week or circa 5.7k/year from your Net income. Which, for a 35 year old earner of the average wage in Ireland is 19.2%. Nearly 1/5th of total available income for something which even if you drive for 2 hours a day, every day, is still doing nothing for nearly 92% of the time.

Of course, current public transport costs and availability are not viable alternatives, so the challenge will be for the Greens (and the others who will become very Green focused after yesterday) to actually bring about meaningful strategies in this space. The government gets 60% of every litre of fuel purchased in the country so if that revenue drops, it will make a serious dent in money to the exchequer.

elfy4eva

Sorry am still a bit confused do we have 13 seats or 11 while were still waiting on UK to leave?

FrancieBrady

RTE concensus is this is going to be a long fraught count.

'Greens in line for three seats but might only get one in the end' type of count.

*Grabs popcorn.

Tell me how

elfy4eva wrote: »

Sorry am still a bit confused do we have 13 seats or 11 while were still waiting on UK to leave?

Waiting for the UK to leave.

AndrewJRenko

onetimecypher wrote: »

I know in Daly's case her alternate is a deaf person.

You say this like it's a bad thing. Is there any particular concerns that you want to share?

radharc

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You say this like it's a bad thing. Is there any particular concerns that you want to share?

Was just about to post the same thing.

LuasSimon

Sinn Fein seem to have lost many of their core republican vote , the 3-4 % that always voted Sinn Fein . Many of these voters feel Sinn Fein are more interested in Abortion and travellers rights than a United Ireland .
Some in the north and border counties might still have a republican to vote for and will continue to do so but down south Sinn Fein are more likely to have a defender of travellers rights than a republican which might attract a PC brigade ( no pun intended )vote but has lost the traditional republican vote .

FrancieBrady

Some result for Cuffe in Dublin 11% in opinion polls to 23% in the election... Fitzgerald who was expected to top the pol at 17% in opinion polls drops to 14%

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Some result for Cuffe in Dublin 11% in opinion polls to 23% in the election... Fitzgerald who was expected to top the pol at 17% in opinion polls drops to 11%

14%

Blueshoe

FG and the Greens.

Well done everyone. We just kicked the misery up a gear for many.

markodaly

Appears to be a decent result for the Greens.
FG seems to be holding steady, will result in more or less the same MEP's.
FF should be doing better.
SF vote down as well.

Beechwoodspark

Dunno how ppl could vote for fran Fitz after the DOJ debacle but there’s no talkin to some ppl

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

14%

Edited to fix typo

Patser

Sorry if this has been asked already, but how are RTE giving exit poll results, and our results being merrily counted and reported on.

In the meantime nothing is being reported from UK elections, and at least 1 link I've looked at says it's illegal to report anything til Sunday evening as it's a European wide election

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/25/european-elections-2019-results-tomorrow-exit-polls/

Dyr

Tell me how wrote: »

Say you are right. What will the implications be?

Greens enact carbon taxes
Cost of motoring increases
People become frustrated
People demand alternative options
Governments increase support for public transport and cycling initiatives.
People become less frustrated
r.

Public transport has never (and will never) ease anyone frustrations in this country. The car is king for a reason.

FrancieBrady

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Dunno how ppl could vote for fran Fitz after the DOJ debacle but there’s no talkin to some ppl

They made a right mess in Dublin...running Durkan was a huge mistake.

Beechwoodspark

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They made a right mess in Dublin...running Durkan was a huge mistake.

Strange alright. Should’ve run him in Midlands North west maybe

Wheeliebin30

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Dunno how ppl could vote for fran Fitz after the DOJ debacle but there’s no talkin to some ppl

Because the report after vindicated her and showed she done nothing wrong.

Dues that not count anymore here?

Guilty as charged.

Harry Palmr

Patser wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked already, but how are RTE giving exit poll results, and our results being merrily counted and reported on.

In the meantime nothing is being reported from UK elections, and at least 1 link I've looked at says it's illegal to report anything til Sunday evening as it's a European wide election

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/25/european-elections-2019-results-tomorrow-exit-polls/

Lots of commentary on that article in the comments section saying it's nonsense and countries are releasing exit poll results. Telegraph is not the paper it once was.

FrancieBrady

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Strange alright. Should’ve run him in Midlands North west maybe

You would think that wouldn't you. SDLP dropouts generally favour further south for the soft seats.