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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,329 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    L1985 wrote: »
    That's the legal right share-basically the spouse is entitled to one third but they don't have to take it. Children just have to have been given a "reasonable provision" within their lifetime and that
    Could include college etc....




    I think there is an automatic entitlement defined in law for the children if the person dies intestate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭farmerval


    Reading through parts of the thread I am surprised at the animosity in many posts, on both sides of the divide. Where I am really surprised is in the ideas sprouted here vary so much from what I have seen in farming life.
    When I was young th efarm was everything in that all the family mucked in to help and do whatever had to be done.

    In turn the farm was seen as the fuel that fed all the family paid for educations, opportunities etc.

    The idea that any of our family thought about how much or little they put into the farm versus what they got out was never thought about. I was the yougest and got the farm as the elder family members had done quite well in the world and were done for. The same happened in my father's generation.

    An awful lot of the families we knew growing up were the same, the farm was seen as an opportunity to give the whole family some kind of a start in life.

    In the OP's piece there was no mention of what the parents would wish for, would they prefer their daughters to be nearby? See more of their daughters and possibly grandchildren? Is land the only currency in this situation.


    Having said all the above i have seen a very recent situation where the only family member who needed assistance got none from his parents, all the rest of his family were settled and done for, and his parents still chose to leave him without a roof over his head. There's definitely nothng as queer as folk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Water John wrote: »
    I think the case revolves around the eldest son having put a lot of work unpaid into the land. Reasonable expectation of inheritance of that promised to him.

    It would have been much better if he was paid a proper wage. Then the assets could have (fairly) been divided equally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Not everyone in a family gets on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,845 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The reality of farm work usually can be 70/80 hr weeks. No farm could afford to pay.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Fat Cant


    In my case I was taken out of school early at 15. I worked for free for the parents till I was 25 while the sister went off to college and got a great qualifications and set up a great career for herself.
    At the age of 25 I started thinking maybe I mite not get the farm the way my father talked of me. So I decided that i would get a job at that age. my father told me he would give me two thirds of the farm and he would keep the last third with all the road frontage if I stayed.
    I stayed with him and my mother and nursed them both to the end and not once in 6 year did my parents see my sister but yet still my father gave her the last of his land and house. I was gutted.
    You should never take anything for granted. If I went back again I would have went to college and got a good career for myself .
    I always think now why did I bother taking care of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Fat Cant wrote: »
    In my case I was taken out of school early at 15. I worked for free for the parents till I was 25 while the sister went off to college and got a great qualifications and set up a great career for herself.
    At the age of 25 I started thinking maybe I mite not get the farm the way my father talked of me. So I decided that i would get a job at that age. my father told me he would give me two thirds of the farm and he would keep the last third with all the road frontage if I stayed.
    I stayed with him and my mother and nursed them both to the end and not once in 6 year did my parents see my sister but yet still my father gave her the last of his land and house. I was gutted.
    I always think now why did I bother taking care of them.

    If you had kids yourself,you'd understand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Fat Cant


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    If you had kids yourself,you'd understand
    I do have kids but I won't be messing them about .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Fat Cant wrote: »
    I do have kids but I won't be messing them about .

    That's good to hear
    Be sure and leave one of them your 150 acres ,it'll give them a great start :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    That's good to hear
    Be sure and leave one of them your 150 acres ,it'll give them a great start :p

    It's the principle, not the amount. Some parents are kûñts.


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  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fat Cant wrote: »
    I always think now why did I bother taking care of them.

    Oh I don't know, because they are your parents & they took care of you for at least 18 years, if not more!
    My Mam has nothing except a crappy old council house that she bought a few years ago & when she does die, I don't want it, not do I care what happens to it. Hopefully she leaves it to one of my brothers, who may be able to use the money.
    It's terrible to think of old people who are only looked after because someone wants an inheritance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,845 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Old people come in all sorts. A gentle person in life is a gentle older person, the converse is also true. Being old doesn't automatically bestow a halo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Fat Cant


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Oh I don't know, because they are your parents & they took care of you for at least 18 years, if not more!
    My Mam has nothing except a crappy old council house that she bought a few years ago & when she does die, I don't want it, not do I care what happens to it. Hopefully she leaves it to one of my brothers, who may be able to use the money.
    It's terrible to think of old people who are only looked after because someone wants an inheritance

    The way I look at it is the more you do for someone the less respect they have for you and bad mouth you as well.
    I'm not saying this for all the parents our there but there still is a few that have know respect for what people that help them.


  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fat Cant wrote: »
    The way I look at it is the more you do for someone the less respect they have for you and bad mouth you as well.
    I'm not saying this for all the parents our there but there still is a few that have know respect for what people that help them.

    And what respect is that?
    Expecting your parents to leave their inheritance to you because you helped them out?
    As far as I'm concerned I will look after my mother because she looked after me & she deserves an easy old age


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Fat Cant


    bubblypop wrote: »
    And what respect is that?
    Expecting your parents to leave their inheritance to you because you helped them out?
    As far as I'm concerned I will look after my mother because she looked after me & she deserves an easy old age


    bubblypop
    Registered User
    this is the only place i can think to post this question.

    if, hypothetically, a parent died in the 1980's & one son claimed a will was made, making him the sole benificiary, & 30 years later it comes out that there was no will at all.
    what could the outcome be? would the other siblings now have a claim to the original home house or is it too late?


    Now Now is this the cottage your on about 😉 ..


  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fat Cant wrote: »
    bubblypop
    Registered User
    this is the only place i can think to post this question.

    if, hypothetically, a parent died in the 1980's & one son claimed a will was made, making him the sole benificiary, & 30 years later it comes out that there was no will at all.
    what could the outcome be? would the other siblings now have a claim to the original home house or is it too late?


    Now Now is this the cottage your on about 😉 ..

    Don't know. But then again I'm not a solicitor.
    Doesn't really have anything to do with the parents either does it......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    So what happened? Did the sisters get a site?

    Can't believe this thread is still going:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭yorlum11


    We had similar in our family. My brother farmed with my dad on a farm away from our home. Town dwellers. Anyways my parents are still alive and healthy thank God. 10 years ago myself and the other siblings got a site each on said farm. My other brother inherited the farm. Absolutely 100% fair. I was delighted as I had expected nothing. Lesson here is his parents should have dished out the sites and handed the rest to tour hubby. Everyone moves on. Hope it all works out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Fat Cant wrote: »
    .
    I always think now why did I bother taking care of them.

    I'll be making my parents pay up front for any 'minding them in their old age' costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    I'll be making my parents pay up front for any 'minding them in their old age' costs.

    I dropped them at my brothers door. His wife wasn't impressed.


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