Official Conor McGregor thread (part 6) *Read Mod Note in Post 1* Revised 13-01-19

derfderf

If you haven't seen a Justin Gaethje fight, go watch a Justin Gaethje fight. Absolute mayhem.

simongurnick

cliggg wrote: »

It was nice of Conor to pose for a picture in court, if I was a celeb in court I'd tell people to fúck off if they asked me for a pic there!

That's hilarious

Try_harder

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Photography is not allowed in court. He is clearly the one holding the phone and taking the picture. I hope the gardai follow up on this and charge him with contempt of court.

Learn the law before you go spouting about it- he was OUTSIDE the courtroom

Mellor

DeVore wrote: »

I predict deese tings...:D

JK did say after the Aldo fight that he didn't want Conor making the cut to 145 ever again. Within a few months it was clear Conor agreed.

The future is a little more hazy from here...

Autecher

Try_harder wrote: »

Learn the law before you go spouting about it- he was OUTSIDE the courtroom

Sounds like he should Try Harder am I right??

billybonkers

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Khabib has done that against 25 other people though. McGregor did look a bit off but take nothing away from khabib. Being mauled by him doesn't really tell us anything.

It does it shows Khabib was the better fighter, no? Getting dropped by Khabib also? Getting sub'd?

Jamiekelly

Honestly I'd say Mcgregor is going back down to 45 for his next fight. Makes the most sense for him, Holloway and the UFC.

He can walk straight back into another title shot with Max and there won't be much controversy about earning a title shot considering they both cleared out the division and it would be considered a waste of time fighting Ortega or Frankie. He can keep relatively quiet for the press build up since Max is a gentleman and Conor seems to be friendly towards him. It gives Max a nice pay day since Mcgregor will draw no matter what and if it's announced the fans will really look forward to it knowing it's got a few question marks around it since they last fought. Also a striker against another striker will suit Max and Conor down to the ground and if Conor wins it will give him his confidence back. It would also let Khabib and Tony sort their situation out (finally).

I think the weight issue isn't actually that big of a deal. It would be if Conor had never made the weight even once but to be fair to him he always did. Surprisingly enough it was never Conor who said he didnt want to try and make that weight again, it was actually Kavanagh who said that and since they both appear to be, at the very least, less friendly I doubt Conor would listen to him about that.

Zero-Cool

I think Max is the best option also for the same reasons but I'd be surprised if he goes back to 45. Saying that, another title shot might be motivation for him to do it. I think if it does happen, it's a very different fight this time around, Max won't be bullied again and would be a tough fight for Conor. Still think he wins but he'd have to forget about whiskey to concentrate on both Max and the weight cut. At least he seems to be interested in coming back in 2019 anyway.

I just hope him and Khabibs case gets sorted soon, no more dragging it out.

dulux99

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Reliable source says hes fighting Holloway in march. Not sure what weight class.

Interesting. I hope you're right.

Max from the other night runs rings around him..

AlmightyCushion

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Max from the other night runs rings around him..

Max gets hit a lot which isn't a good thing when you're fighting McGregor. McGregor put Diaz on his ass 3 times in 2 rounds. When was the last time someone done that to Diaz? When he put Diaz down, he wasn't going anywhere near him because of how dangerous Diaz is off his back. He won't have that worry with Max so will go on for gnp if he drops him.

Mellor

DeVore wrote: »

I dunno where he goes from here. He cant go back in for another title fight imho and his pride is going to have to come down about 20 stories to start to take build-up fights to get himself tuned up again because make no mistake about it, the Conor we saw against Khabib was slow and stodgy.

Can't imagine his pride would get in the way there - if he fights again. He's said he'd fight who ever. He'll make millions fighting anyone in the top 10.
Maybe the loss gives him the fire back, maybe not.

Conor was never good on the ground but he was very hard to GET to the ground and keep him there. Khabib didnt have that problem with him and made Conor look pretty average.

Disagree strongly with this one.
Khabib is an elite wrestler. It's incomparable to his TDD against Dave Hill or Chad Mendes.
If anything, despite losing the grappling side of things, I thought his grappling looked good at times and certainly improved again.
But the memes will keep coming.

Whelo79

I would imagine if Conor v Max is in the works Conor would have spoke with Lockhart already and worked out the maths in advance regarding the weight cut.

Subcomandante Marcos

Whelo79 wrote: »

I would imagine if Conor v Max is in the works Conor would have spoke with Lockhart already and worked out the maths in advance regarding the weight cut.

You think Lockhart uses math? The man is a spoofer. He's the epitome of bro science. Him, Mike Docle, all of them. They're all self thought snake oil salesmen. There's not a degree in a related area between them.

LollipopJimmy

Whelo79 wrote: »

I would imagine if Conor v Max is in the works Conor would have spoke with Lockhart already and worked out the maths in advance regarding the weight cut.

Lockhart was in Dublin 2 weeks ago, he went to the Cage Legacy show

D'Agger

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think Lockhart uses math? The man is a spoofer. He's the epitome of bro science. Him, Mike Docle, all of them. They're all self thought snake oil salesmen. There's not a degree in a related area between them.

Who was the fella on Rogan with John Kavanagh - that guy spent 90% of his time shítting on other nutritionists calling them snakeoil salesmen etc. and then offered no backing to what he was doing from a scientific perspective. Kept saying you need fructose and caffeine after you train and that was about it.

There's plenty of good nutritionists and trainers out there working with elite athletes but I genuinely think fúck all of them are working in MMA right now.

AlmightyCushion

D'Agger wrote: »

Who was the fella on Rogan with John Kavanagh - that guy spent 90% of his time shítting on other nutritionists calling them snakeoil salesmen etc. and then offered no backing to what he was doing from a scientific perspective. Kept saying you need fructose and caffeine after you train and that was about it.

There's plenty of good nutritionists and trainers out there working with elite athletes but I genuinely think fúck all of them are working in MMA right now.

That was 100% Lockhart 100%. 100%

Whelo79

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think Lockhart uses math? The man is a spoofer. He's the epitome of bro science. Him, Mike Docle, all of them. They're all self thought snake oil salesmen. There's not a degree in a related area between them.

You think he doesn't take weight, muscle mass, water retention etc into account when it comes to calculating calorie intake? Of course he does. That's math. There's an element of 'bro science' too it, trial and error has close to perfected their works.

Their records are pretty damn good. No fighter has every missed a cut using Dolce as far as I am aware.

Tazzimus

Isn't Dietician the medically recognised profession, as opposed to all the "Nutritionists"

Whelo79

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Lockhart was in Dublin 2 weeks ago, he went to the Cage Legacy show

I think he actually has a course running over here. Training some people up in his weight cutting techniques etc.

LollipopJimmy

Whelo79 wrote: »

I think he actually has a course running over here. Training some people up in his weight cutting techniques etc.

I know a lad went out to him alright, I didn't think he was giving a course here

Mellor

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think Lockhart uses math? The man is a spoofer. He's the epitome of bro science. Him, Mike Docle, all of them. They're all self thought snake oil salesmen. There's not a degree in a related area between them.

They try wrap it up in jargon to sound technical and specialist, the result is the broscience. But what they actually do isn't it's any of the broscience they spout, it's just pretty basic biology.
Of course, it's a lot harder to sell simple common knowledge.


Calories in, calories out
Water in, water out

Whelo79

Tazzimus wrote: »

Isn't Dietician the medically recognised profession, as opposed to all the "Nutritionists"

Exactly. Same difference as between a Sport Psychologist and a mental skills trainer. One goes to college/University for 3-5 years, the other does a couple of weekend courses and maybe a 6 month cert.

HappyAsLarE

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Max gets hit a lot which isn't a good thing when you're fighting McGregor. McGregor put Diaz on his ass 3 times in 2 rounds. When was the last time someone done that to Diaz? When he put Diaz down, he wasn't going anywhere near him because of how dangerous Diaz is off his back. He won't have that worry with Max so will go on for gnp if he drops him.

Khabib was a sitting duck with McGregors power also but the better fighter won. I’d rate Max as a better fighter based of their most recent performances.

yourdeadwright

Whelo79 wrote: »

You think he doesn't take weight, muscle mass, water retention etc into account when it comes to calculating calorie intake? Of course he does. That's math. There's an element of 'bro science' too it, trial and error has close to perfected their works.

Their records are pretty damn good. No fighter has every missed a cut using Dolce as far as I am aware.

You serious ?? Have you never heard of Johnny Hendrix's ?
Oh sorry my bad that's right Dolce said they left the sale they where using unattended at the local suana and someone changed it and that's why he missed weight ..defo wasn't Mikes fault

AlmightyCushion

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Khabib was a sitting duck with McGregors power also but the better fighter won. I’d rate Max as a better fighter based of their most recent performances.

His striking was definitely sloppier there then in any of his previous fights. That was after 2 hard rounds of grappling with the best grappler in the division (if not the UFC) so I'd blame it on that tiring him out and leaving his timing and power impacted as a result. Others would say ring rust, his partying or just that he's not as good as he used to be. Either or all of the above could be correct.

However, if I'm correct then McGregor's striking would be a lot better against Max then it was against Khabib in round 3 and I can see that ending badly for Max. Regardless, there is only one way to find out who wins that fight and I look forward to finding out because either way it'll be a cracker so hopefully they book it. It's just a pity one of them has to lose as I like the both of them.

Whelo79

yourdeadwright wrote: »

You serious ?? Have you never heard of Johnny Hendrix's ?
Oh sorry my bad that's right Dolce said they left the sale they where using unattended at the local suana and someone changed it and that's why he missed weight ..defo wasn't Mikes fault

Didn't he make weight on the second weigh in that day? I know they parted ways a few fights later with Dolce saying Hendricks blew up too much between camps and Dolce felt insulted by that.

Subcomandante Marcos

D'Agger wrote: »

Who was the fella on Rogan with John Kavanagh - that guy spent 90% of his time shítting on other nutritionists calling them snakeoil salesmen etc. and then offered no backing to what he was doing from a scientific perspective. Kept saying you need fructose and caffeine after you train and that was about it.

There's plenty of good nutritionists and trainers out there working with elite athletes but I genuinely think fúck all of them are working in MMA right now.

Lockhart. You could even see Rogan looking at him like "wtf is he talking about" for about 75% of it.

TerrorFirmer

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

His striking was definitely sloppier there then in any of his previous fights. That was after 2 hard rounds of grappling with the best grappler in the division (if not the UFC) so I'd blame it on that tiring him out and leaving his timing and power impacted as a result. Others would say ring rust, his partying or just that he's not as good as he used to be. Either or all of the above could be correct.

However, if I'm correct then McGregor's striking would be a lot better against Max then it was against Khabib in round 3 and I can see that ending badly for Max. Regardless, there is only one way to find out who wins that fight and I look forward to finding out because either way it'll be a cracker so hopefully they book it. It's just a pity one of them has to lose as I like the both of them.

There's also fear of being taken down which is a huge factor factor.

I mean Al went all five rounds with Khabib but looked like a bum in the ring to the casual viewer, though in reality he's a real tough and intelligent scrapper with good power in his hands.

The fear of Khabib's wrestling dulls good strikers. It's part of what makes him so effective.

yourdeadwright

Whelo79 wrote: »

Didn't he make weight on the second weigh in that day? I know they parted ways a few fights later with Dolce saying Hendricks blew up too much between camps and Dolce felt insulted by that.

Yep he made it on the second attempt and then gassed after 3 rounds in the fight ,