No social welfare bonus this year

Gringo180

Surely the bonus should be scrapped for anyone on the dole for over a year and not punish people in receipt of other social welfare payments such as pensioners and people on illness benefit.

Sweet.Science

Only in this country can you decide you aren't arsed to work and then get a bonus for it .

Just think about it for a second . It's hilarious in a way.

evolving tipperary

What bonus?

BrokenArrows

Ive always worked and ive never received a christmas bonus or any bonus for that matter.

Getting a bonus on the dole is a joke.

Jim Bob Scratcher

We've haven't had one of these threads in a while :rolleyes:

Sephiroth_dude

How about we ban Dole bashing threads instead?

thebull85

Christmas bonus needs scrapping, and the dole money needs reducing. Shower of lazy c**ts get everything handed to them.

holepunch

I know plenty of people on the dole who do sweet FA and the social still continues to pay out, this country is a joke...you'll hear the outcry now from people on the dole who've already spent it as they were expecting it, 100% agree with original poster

Guy:Incognito

2 hours ago the papers were reporting that the government have denied it's being scrapped. Thought the Internet was supposed to be the death of the papers by being more up to date?

Anastasia_

I work and don't get a Christmas bonus.. What entitles them to one?

jimmycrackcorm

Gringo180 wrote:

Surely the bonus should be scrapped for anyone on the dole for over a year and not punish people in receipt of other social welfare payments such as pensioners and people on illness benefit.

I also disagree for scrapping it for elderly pensioners. Someone in their 80's on just the state pension has no opportunity to gain a little extra cash to help out at Xmas.

Many of us working now will be in the same position in years to come.

mikemac2

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I also disagree for scrapping it for elderly pensioners. Someone in their 80's on just the state pension has no opportunity to gain a little extra cash to help out at Xmas.

Many of us working now will be in the same position in years to come.

The state pension won’t exist in a few decades

uch

mikemac2 wrote: »

The state pension won’t exist in a few decades

But my Gold plated Civil service one will :eek::eek:

eviltwin

It's scrapped for everyone so for every layabout spending it on fags and booze there will be many more down on their luck individuals who were relying on that money for Christmas.

Hitman3000

Sephiroth_dude wrote:

How about we ban Dole bashing threads instead?

Ah now what would the permanently outraged do? I suppose they all could switch to whinging about "free" houses.

evolving tipperary

There's a christmas bonus for people on the dole? How much?

Bunny Colvin

evolving tipperary wrote: »

There's a christmas bonus for people on the dole? How much?

Two weeks payment and a voucher for meat.

storker

As a taxpayer who helps pay for it, I don't really have a problem with the idea of a Christmas bonus. I think of it more as a government stimulus, because most of it ends up in the economy anyway. Its not as if even the real spongers (and I note how everyone in receipt of it seems to be lumped into the "sponger" pigeonhole) will use it carefully or hoard it. And if the real spongers do spend it on beer and fags, a large amount of that will go straight back into the state coffers anyway. Dole money doesn't just get sucked into a black hole; it circulates. And a good portion of it will find its way back to where it started, either in the form of VAT, or in the form of PAYE, PRSI and USC paid on the wages it helps to pay, and VAT on things that are bought by the people who receive those wages, etc...

It's not as if it's added to an existing pile of cash on a bed with the recipients rolling around on it cackling gleefully.

Kevin Finnerty

eviltwin wrote: »

It's scrapped for everyone so for every layabout spending it on fags and booze there will be many more down on their luck individuals who were relying on that money for Christmas.

That's the great pity of it.
I don't think they should have been relying on a bonus in the first place though.

TallGlass

uch wrote: »

But my Gold plated Civil service one will :eek::eek:

Paid for by the idiots like me in the private sector, who pay for everything else and get zero.

Seriously considering upping sticks and getting the ****ing hell out of this place. Ran by greedy, dangerous idiots.

IvySlayer

There will be.

The government will happily announce a Christmas bonus in the Budget to improve their ratings.

NinjaTruncs

Anastasia_ wrote: »

I work and don't get a Christmas bonus.. What entitles them to one?

Your taxes.

Yer Da sells Avon

It's an expensive time of year. I wouldn't begrudge anyone a bit of extra money. I count myself lucky that I have a job and won't be relying on it.

Anyway, according to the minister and the Taoiseach, there will be a social welfare bonus this Christmas, so all the right-wing blowhards on here can breath a sigh of whatever the opposite of relief is.

Hitman3000

uch wrote:

But my Gold plated Civil service one will

Depending on your age, you could be in for a huge shock. Despite what those in government tell you the pension time bomb is still ticking .

storker

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

so all the right-wing blowhards on here can breath a sigh of whatever the opposite of relief is.

"Torment"

Hitman3000

Bonus confirmed to be paid, queue the outrage again.

mikeym

It was Fake News.

Bonus will be payed out to old people and to those who refuse to look for work.

Hitman3000

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Depending on your age, you could be in for a huge shock. Despite what those in government tell you the pension time bomb is still ticking .

you "outraged" about public service pensions are you?

awww.

Grayson

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

How about we ban Dole bashing threads instead?

Dole bashing threads, immigrant threads, traveller threads, cyclist/motorist threads & trans/gay threads.

Although at that point we might see tumbleweed drifting through AH.

pat ticket

If people want an xmas bonus then there should be a mechanism in place that they can have a couple of euro deducted off their weekly SW payments to be paid in a lump sum at xmas time.

Or they could just do the above themselves.

oceanman

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

How about we ban Dole bashing threads instead?

that would never happen on boards...:pac:

evolving tipperary

Is it a bonus? Or just paid double because won't be able to get payment during the week most are off for Christmas? Or is it a legit extra week?

orangerhyme

I honestly don't think anyone's happy being on the dole.

It's a boring life of no purpose or meaning. It's also very damaging to self-esteem and selfworth.

People are happiest when they are busy and useful and have something to get up for in the morning.
Anyone who says they are happy on the dole are either lying to you or themselves.

Oasis1974

orangerhyme wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone's happy being on the dole.

It's a boring life of no purpose or meaning. It's also very damaging to self-esteem and selfworth.

People are happiest when they are busy and useful and have something to get up for in the morning.
Anyone who says they are happy on the dole are either lying to you or themselves.

You couldn't be more wrong. Plenty of useless cnuts out there never give working a second thought...

Grayson

orangerhyme wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone's happy being on the dole.

It's a boring life of no purpose or meaning. It's also very damaging to self-esteem and selfworth.

People are happiest when they are busy and useful and have something to get up for in the morning.
Anyone who says they are happy on the dole are either lying to you or themselves.

Now you've done it. Don't engage them or we'll have another 20 pages of people foaming at the mouth.

iamwhoiam

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Is it a bonus? Or just paid double because won't be able to get payment during the week most are off for Christmas? Or is it a legit extra week?

I can only speak for the old age pension but my mam gets one extra payment in December which as far as i know is 85% of her normal weeks money

JohnMc1

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Is it a bonus? Or just paid double because won't be able to get payment during the week most are off for Christmas? Or is it a legit extra week?

The Christmas bonus is usually given out on the first week of December. That one is for the week between Christmas and New Year's because the Post Office and Social Welfare office for that week or most of it.

oceanman

pat ticket wrote: »

If people want an xmas bonus then there should be a mechanism in place that they can have a couple of euro deducted off their weekly SW payments to be paid in a lump sum at xmas time.

Or they could just do the above themselves.

but then it wouldn't be a bonus for god sake!!

homosapien91

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Is it a bonus? Or just paid double because won't be able to get payment during the week most are off for Christmas? Or is it a legit extra week?

I think they do get a double week to cover Christmas week that they won't be able to collect payment, not sure how much the bonus is but I'm betting it's more than I get for working my ass off all year round.

storker

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I can only speak for the old age pension but my mam gets one extra payment in December which as far as i know is 85% of her normal weeks money

Likewise. And where does it go? On presents for her grandkids or directly to her grandkids, who can't inject it back into the economy fast enough...

freshpopcorn

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Two weeks payment and a voucher for meat.

Last year it was 85% of your stard payment.
Never heard anything about meat tough.

oceanman

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Last year it was 85% of your stard payment.
Never heard anything about meat tough.

do they not get a cow a pig and a sheep?

Grayson

storker wrote: »

Likewise. And where does it go? On presents for her grandkids or directly to her grandkids, who can't inject it back into the economy fast enough...

My mum spent most of it on coal.

Hitman3000

Deleted User wrote:

you "outraged" about public service pensions are you?

Not at all, just pointing out that pension time bomb has not being defused. You can of course assume the head in sand position I heard it works well.

Hitman3000

1.2 million recieved 85 per cent of their weekly payment last December. The figure was made up of 700, 000 pensioners the rest was carers those on disability and the long term unemployed (15 months or longer).

justfillmein

in fairness though christmas is not a necessity for anyone.
give a helping hand to those in need, to get by each week for food & bills yeah definitely.
but to get extra for christmas is a kick in the teeth to anyone working that doesn't even get a bonus themselves in their job.

Edgarfrndly

Christmas bonus takes the edge off around christmas, and helps alleviate some bills. Not all of us are in a position to work. I'm on disability due to long-term illness. I think it's a sad reflection of society that some people begrudge a little help around christmas. God forbid one of you was in a similar situation.

oceanman

Grayson wrote: »

My mum spent most of it on coal.

so it went into the black economy..:D

iamwhoiam

justfillmein wrote: »

in fairness though christmas is not a necessity for anyone.
give a helping hand to those in need, to get by each week for food & bills yeah definitely.
but to get extra for christmas is a kick in the teeth to anyone working that doesn't even get a bonus themselves in their job.

In all fairness why is it a kick in the teeth for you what others get ? Lets not forget that any of us could find ourselves on disability benefits or on Jobseekers .
Do you begrudge a pensioner an extra 85% of one weeks money once a year to help them out ?

Yer Da sells Avon

pat ticket wrote: »

If people want an xmas bonus then there should be a mechanism in place that they can have a couple of euro deducted off their weekly SW payments to be paid in a lump sum at xmas time.

On a related note, the next social welfare increase, if it's €5 like previous ones, will bring it up to €203 per week. A nuisance for post office staff. I wonder if they should maybe cap weekly payments at €200 for that year, with the extra €3 per week going into a fund, thus allowing jobseekers to occasionally request an extra €20 or so (providing evidence, of course) during weeks when they have several interviews. Job-seeking, if you're doing it properly, is not cheap.

facehugger99

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

On a related note, the next social welfare increase, if it's €5 like previous ones, will bring it up to €203 per week. A nuisance for post office staff. I wonder if they should maybe cap weekly payments at €200 for that year, with the extra €3 per week going into a fund, thus allowing jobseekers to occasionally request an extra €20 or so (providing evidence, of course) during weeks when they have several interviews. Job-seeking, if you're doing it properly, is not cheap.

Or maybe we could keep it for some infrastructure investment or something useful - over 200 a week to sit around on your arse all day? - what a country.