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Tyrone Boycott of RTE Continuing Through Final

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    This was completely cynical by Harte and those who used his position in the GAA to garner votes.

    "GAA Athletes for No" FFS

    EXCERPT FROM ARTICLE:

    "The statement that was put out

    "The GAA’s vision is that everyone be welcome to participate fully in our games and culture, that they thrive and develop their potential, and be inspired to keep a lifelong engagement with our association.” It goes on to includes lines such as: “We are an inclusive organisation. There is space for everybody at our table.”

    All the way through, the statement is littered with ‘we’ and ‘our’ – in reference to the GAA as a whole. When it gets to the meat of the statement, it reads: “In keeping with those principles, we are coming together today to ask the Irish people to vote No on May 25th.”

    There is no gear change, no line separating their own personal views from that of the association, nothing like that. To anyone reading the statement, it looks like a declaration of the position of the GAA on the matter."


    Obviously the less naive average person wouldn't use this particular event to influence their opinion on the issue but a lot would have.

    He done the exact same thing in 2013 in a Northern Ireland campaign to amend their bill on abortion.

    I respect his views but not how he conducts himself using his position to influence and attempting to associate the GAA with his beliefs




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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/gaa-players-organisations-back-yes-vote-in-referendum-675916.html

    Was that okay?

    In my opinion both GPA and Harte are equally - their favourite word! - to put their views on different issues once they are not directly calling for support of a particular party which is in breach of GAA constitution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/gaa-players-organisations-back-yes-vote-in-referendum-675916.html

    Was that okay?

    In my opinion both GPA and Harte are equally - their favourite word! - to put their views on different issues once they are not directly calling for support of a particular party which is in breach of GAA constitution.

    No, to a small degree, again it ostracized certain of it's members.

    But there is a difference to be fair. The GPA is essentially a Union in its make up, a private one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,810 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    No.

    There were sections of different organisations/unions/professions who did the same thing.

    I didn't agree with these people but I never once thought they were speaking for the GAA as a whole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭mada82


    How long after a close family bereavement is a public figure excempt for “comedy” sketches?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Ive been hoping for the last couple of years that somebody would catch Dublin on teh hop and beat them. I can wait one more game. Hope Dublin beat the lard out of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    just because Harte and Tyrone GAA refuses to engage with RTE why the hell do you all want to see Tyrone destroyed? We all know rte television is a load of waffle and they are doing us all of favour by staying away from that cringe up for match programme and rte live at the winners hotel. Who really cares about that nonsense? We all care about the match and who is goin to win it but we can all do without the hype and build-up especially with it involves RTE. Serves no purpose at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    hunter164 wrote: »
    The sooner Mickey Harte retires the better. Spends his life voicing his opinions on things that he shouldn’t be getting involved in and drawing the GAA into it. The way he tried to gather GAA players together for a NO against repeal vote and tried to put it as the GAA were against repeal was diabolical.

    I agree he would be better off focusing on football which he obviously has a talent for given Tyrone's successes under his stewardship. Whoever in RTE was responsible for that sketch should have been sacked for stupidity alone given the circumstances. Then again how a gaa manager believes he can have some input into a rte commentator position is quite strange to say the least. Harte is a great man to preach but like all preachers perhaps not too keen to reflect on their own actions.

    However we all know this tyrone boycott serves no one really long term and will be gone when he finally leaves the stage. The Tyrone players past and present i doubt would have an issue speaking with rte when Harte retires. I dont think the banquet will be an issue as I can't see them getting close to the Dubs in croker but i think it would be a shame if RTE were not there to cover their celebration as it would be some achievement for Harte and Tyrone to win this one. Probably the biggest upset since 1982 if it occurred.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    just because Harte and Tyrone GAA refuses to engage with RTE why the hell do you all want to see Tyrone destroyed? We all know rte television is a load of waffle and they are doing us all of favour by staying away from that cringe up for match programme aand live at the winners hotel Who really cares about that nonsense? We all care about the match and who is goin to win it but we can all do without the hype and build-up especially with the involves. Serves no purpose and is only money for the big boys.

    Because it's Tyrone... :cool:

    And yeah, Up for the Match is like a dose of diarrhea. The worst thing is it's always on when there's bloody else nothing else on.
    Got stuck watching it because I couldn't go out due to heavy rain. There's not enough alcohol in the world to get through it.
    That and Grainne was totally out of it during the last one- she was like a mental patient laughing at her own jokes, while everyone else ignored her. (And talking about the 'Dublin v Monaghan All-Ireland Football final'... yeah, might be time to hire someone else, RTE).

    Anyways, Harte is climbing up on top of his 'moral high ground' which he condemns others for doing- but yet he continues to allow Cathal McCarron to play (not in this year's All Ireland-he's got a knee injury).

    For those not in the know-here's Cathal's list of indiscretions.

    1) Gambled away €200 000 of his dad's money due to a gambling addiction.
    2) Set up a fake cancer charity in order to dupe his neighbours out of money and feed his addiction. (Harte forgave him)
    3) Starred in a gay porn video (this one is important for later) and gambled away the €3000 he earned from that in two days. (Mickey, doesn't the bible forsake prostitution?)
    4) Met with a girl on Tinder, who was 15 years old. Questions remain about their 'meeting'-as the girl underwent an STD and STI test (due to the gay porn Cathal was involved in-the porn industry is still pretty lax when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases), and there was a very awkward interview on newstalk. (she also went on psychiatric drugs, and had multiple breakdowns).
    http://www.the42.ie/cathal-mccarron-tense-interview-off-the-ball-3114914-Dec2016/
    5) He was meant to be in a steady relationship-so he possibly cheated on his girlfriend (and mother of his one year old kid) with a minor.
    6) Hasn't seen one of his kids in years-the mother has kept them apart (can you blame her?)
    7) Cried victim when he was dropped from the Late Late show. He was due on to promote his book, but the teenage girl's father pleaded with RTE not to allow him on the show to promote his book.
    8) Cried Victim when he was fined €500 for starting a row in a pub in 2016. He avoided a conviction.

    And yet Harte and his God bothery allows this guy to continue to play. And then blames RTE for making him look bad.

    Nope, Harte, you did that all on your own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    Because it's Tyrone... :cool:

    And yeah, Up for the Match is like a dose of diarrhea. The worst thing is it's always on when there's bloody else nothing else on.
    Got stuck watching it because I couldn't go out due to heavy rain. There's not enough alcohol in the world to get through it.
    That and Grainne was totally out of it during the last one- she was like a mental patient laughing at her own jokes, while everyone else ignored her. (And talking about the 'Dublin v Monaghan All-Ireland Football final'... yeah, might be time to hire someone else, RTE).

    Anyways, Harte is climbing up on top of his 'moral high ground' which he condemns others for doing- but yet he continues to allow Cathal McCarron to play (not in this year's All Ireland-he's got a knee injury).

    For those not in the know-here's Cathal's list of indiscretions.

    1) Gambled away €200 000 of his dad's money due to a gambling addiction.
    2) Set up a fake cancer charity in order to dupe his neighbours out of money and feed his addiction. (Harte forgave him)
    3) Starred in a gay porn video (this one is important for later) and gambled away the €3000 he earned from that in two days. (Mickey, doesn't the bible forsake prostitution?)
    4) Met with a girl on Tinder, who was 15 years old. Questions remain about their 'meeting'-as the girl underwent an STD and STI test (due to the gay porn Cathal was involved in-the porn industry is still pretty lax when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases), and there was a very awkward interview on newstalk. (she also went on psychiatric drugs, and had multiple breakdowns).
    http://www.the42.ie/cathal-mccarron-tense-interview-off-the-ball-3114914-Dec2016/
    5) He was meant to be in a steady relationship-so he possibly cheated on his girlfriend (and mother of his one year old kid) with a minor.
    6) Hasn't seen one of his kids in years-the mother has kept them apart (can you blame her?)
    7) Cried victim when he was dropped from the Late Late show. He was due on to promote his book, but the teenage girl's father pleaded with RTE not to allow him on the show to promote his book.
    8) Cried Victim when he was fined €500 for starting a row in a pub in 2016. He avoided a conviction.

    And yet Harte and his God bothery allows this guy to continue to play. And then blames RTE for making him look bad.

    Nope, Harte, you did that all on your own.

    I don't know why sectarians keep bashing Harte over his religious beliefs. I admire Harte's strong faith and the admirable way he handled his daughter's death. His falling out with RTE has nothing to do with God or bibles; it has to do with the fact that some clowns in said RTE thought it would be a good idea to play a mocking song about a 'wee girl from Omagh' shortly after his daughter's tragic death


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    I don't know why sectarians keep bashing Harte over his religious beliefs. I admire Harte's strong faith and the admirable way he handled his daughter's death. His falling out with RTE has nothing to do with God or bibles; it has to do with the fact that some clowns in said RTE thought it would be a good idea to play a mocking song about a 'wee girl from Omagh' shortly after his daughter's tragic death


    As explained previously his RTE boycott started BEFORE the sketch when RTE didn't reply satisfactorily to the letter asking for Brian Carthy to be given more commentary games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    As explained previously his RTE boycott started BEFORE the sketch when RTE didn't reply satisfactorily to the letter asking for Brian Carthy to be given more commentary games.

    Yes but it was compounded by the sketch


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,810 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I don't know why sectarians keep bashing Harte over his religious beliefs. I admire Harte's strong faith and the admirable way he handled his daughter's death. His falling out with RTE has nothing to do with God or bibles; it has to do with the fact that some clowns in said RTE thought it would be a good idea to play a mocking song about a 'wee girl from Omagh' shortly after his daughter's tragic death

    His daughter was not 'from Omagh'.
    The song was played because it is synonymous with 'Tyrone'.

    Harte 'took' offence. there was no offence to his daughter intended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Harte is like many managers in some respect he’ll do what he thinks he needs to to get ahead. But Sky pulled him on his lying, not often I’d praise sky but well done on this instance. He was dishonest.

    But where I really dislike his actions is when it comes to his attempts to get men sent off in matches. The diving and exaggerating of fouls is now being focused on a lot more. And that’s a good thing because THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED INTO FOOTBALL AND MUST BE STOPPED NOW. Again, a dishonest way of sending your team out to play.

    Targeting of individuals is another aspect of Tyrone’s behaviour. It’s prevalent through all levels of their county structure. An opposition minor player was constantly reminded that his, well I’m not going into it. Most will know what I’m talking about.

    I have no love for any team dominating football. But I hope it continues for this year anyway. Good luck Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,773 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    They don't even retire from sledging either, that vile Eoin Mulligan making Londonderry jokes recently on twitter, the man from the plantation town of Cookstown, I made sure to put him in his place.

    I'm sure he's badly annoyed at what a stranger on twitter says alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    doc_17 wrote: »
    Harte is like many managers in some respect he’ll do what he thinks he needs to to get ahead. But Sky pulled him on his lying, not often I’d praise sky but well done on this instance. He was dishonest.

    But where I really dislike his actions is when it comes to his attempts to get men sent off in matches. The diving and exaggerating of fouls is now being focused on a lot more. And that’s a good thing because THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED INTO FOOTBALL AND MUST BE STOPPED NOW. Again, a dishonest way of sending your team out to play.

    Targeting of individuals is another aspect of Tyrone’s behaviour. It’s prevalent through all levels of their county structure. An opposition minor player was constantly reminded that his, well I’m not going into it. Most will know what I’m talking about.

    I have no love for any team dominating football. But I hope it continues for this year anyway. Good luck Dublin.

    That sort of behaviour is disgusting but it's not unique to Tyrone


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,454 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Who gives a crap about Up For The Match or RTE's overpaid reporters visiting victory dinners? It's all rubbish broadcasting and filling the pockets of very poor reporters, experts and commentators. I usually watch their coverage with the sound muted to avoid the silly crap from Marty etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    just because Harte and Tyrone GAA refuses to engage with RTE why the hell do you all want to see Tyrone destroyed? We all know rte television is a load of waffle and they are doing us all of favour by staying away from that cringe up for match programme and rte live at the winners hotel. Who really cares about that nonsense? We all care about the match and who is goin to win it but we can all do without the hype and build-up especially with it involves RTE. Serves no purpose at all.

    I think it more that it is one of a long line of things Harte has done to make himself and unlikeable figure.

    Personally I'll be shouting for Tyrone as I am a Kildare man with Mayo ties but I can see why others don't like the Tyrone setup which is their perogative.


  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Saint Sonner


    doc_17 wrote: »
    Harte is like many managers in some respect he’ll do what he thinks he needs to to get ahead. But Sky pulled him on his lying, not often I’d praise sky but well done on this instance. He was dishonest.

    But where I really dislike his actions is when it comes to his attempts to get men sent off in matches. The diving and exaggerating of fouls is now being focused on a lot more. And that’s a good thing because THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED INTO FOOTBALL AND MUST BE STOPPED NOW. Again, a dishonest way of sending your team out to play.

    Targeting of individuals is another aspect of Tyrone’s behaviour. It’s prevalent through all levels of their county structure. An opposition minor player was constantly reminded that his, well I’m not going into it. Most will know what I’m talking about.

    I have no love for any team dominating football. But I hope it continues for this year anyway. Good luck Dublin.

    This was proved to be a false allegation made by Donegal management - who actually put the mental health of a minor from Tyrone at risk due to threats and guff he was getting on Twitter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Saint Sonner


    For whats its worth as Tyrone person I think MH is wrong in how this is being handled. If he's annoyed fair enough don't talk to RTE but let someone else talk players and assistant manager (like Ferguson with BBC)
    I'm telling you now a half tight Horse Devlin on the stage at the winners hotel talking to RTE would be worth a viewing!!!!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    This was proved to be a false allegation made by Donegal management - who actually put the mental health of a minor from Tyrone at risk due to threats and guff he was getting on Twitter.

    was it? have you information made public that no one else has? Because Tyrone claim they were vindicated and published as much and the Ulster council came out with a statement saying "We would also highlight that recent media reports regarding the investigation do not accurately reflect the findings of the Committee." The findings were also kept confidential.


  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Saint Sonner


    The report was not published to save embarrassment of an unsubstantiated allegation that put a minor at risk. If it was proved that allegation took place the player in question would have faced a heavy suspension.
    Diabolical stuff from Donegal and in particular Declan Bonner


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    I have family from Tipp and they will be supporting Dublin mainly due to the All Ireland under 21 final of a few years back. Normally they are fanatical supporters of anyone playing Dublin!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The report was not published to save embarrassment of an unsubstantiated allegation that put a minor at risk. If it was proved that allegation took place the player in question would have faced a heavy suspension.
    Diabolical stuff from Donegal and in particular Declan Bonner

    no, you said it was proven that it didnt happen. Tyrone more or less were reporting that too but the Ulster GAA denied that was the case. It may have not been proven it did happen, but unless you are on the council hearing the evidence, you cannot claim that it was proven it was a false claim. Not proving something happened does not mean it didnt happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Saint Sonner


    But you seem to claim that it did happen? So how do you know?
    If it did happen it would have came out. I know the family in question and the torment the lad went through because of Declan Bonners false allegations was horrendous.
    Disgusting stuff from Donegal!


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,157 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    But you seem to claim that it did happen? So how do you know?
    If it did happen it would have came out. I know the family in question and the torment the lad went through because of Declan Bonners false allegations was horrendous.
    Disgusting stuff from Donegal!


    Are you claiming that nothing was said by the Tyrone minor?

    Or are you claiming that something was said but not what was claimed by Donegal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Because it's Tyrone...  :cool:

    And yeah, Up for the Match is like a dose of diarrhea.  The worst thing is it's always on when there's bloody else nothing else on.
    Got stuck watching it because I couldn't go out due to heavy rain. There's not enough alcohol in the world to get through it.
    That and Grainne was totally out of it during the last one- she was like a mental patient laughing at her own jokes, while everyone else ignored her. (And talking about the 'Dublin v Monaghan All-Ireland Football final'... yeah, might be time to hire someone else, RTE).

    Anyways, Harte is climbing up on top of his 'moral high ground' which he condemns others for doing- but yet he continues to allow Cathal McCarron to play (not in this year's All Ireland-he's got a knee injury).

    For those not in the know-here's Cathal's list of indiscretions.

    1) Gambled away €200 000 of his dad's money due to a gambling addiction.
    2) Set up a fake cancer charity in order to dupe his neighbours out of money and feed his addiction. (Harte forgave him)
    3) Starred in a gay porn video (this one is important for later) and gambled away the €3000 he earned from that in two days. (Mickey, doesn't the bible forsake prostitution?)
    4) Met with a girl on Tinder, who was 15 years old.  Questions remain about their 'meeting'-as the girl underwent an STD and STI test (due to the gay porn Cathal was involved in-the porn industry is still pretty lax when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases), and there was a very awkward interview on newstalk. (she also went on psychiatric drugs, and had multiple breakdowns).  
    http://www.the42.ie/cathal-mccarron-tense-interview-off-the-ball-3114914-Dec2016/
    5) He was meant to be in a steady relationship-so he possibly cheated on his girlfriend (and mother of his one year old kid) with a minor.
    6) Hasn't seen one of his kids in years-the mother has kept them apart (can you blame her?)
    7) Cried victim when he was dropped from the Late Late show. He was due on to promote his book, but the teenage girl's father pleaded with RTE not to allow him on the show to promote his book.
    8) Cried Victim when he was fined €500 for starting a row in a pub in 2016. He avoided a conviction.

    And yet Harte and his God bothery allows this guy to continue to play.  And then blames RTE for making him look bad.

    Nope, Harte, you did that all on your own.

    I don't know why sectarians keep bashing Harte over his religious beliefs. I admire Harte's strong faith and the admirable way he handled his daughter's death. His falling out with RTE has nothing to do with God or bibles; it has to do with the fact that some clowns in said RTE thought it would be a good idea to play a mocking song about a 'wee girl from Omagh' shortly after his daughter's tragic death
    That and being pissed off his mate Brian Carthy was overlooked for the gig he thought he deserved, that came before the sketch. Anyway let Harte off, he has an opinion on a lot of things, a little like an arsehole, everyone has an opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭BrianBoru00


    Not the greatest Mickey Harte fan but some of the comments are quite unfair.
    Billy Mays wrote: »
    I wonder does Harte feel he should apologise for giving a character reference for a bloke who sexually assaulted a woman and dumped her on a country road half naked in the middle of the night
    You do realise what a character witness is right? He wasn't condoning what happened and he wasn't a party to it. He just gave a reference in regard to how he knew the offender and gave that opinion truthfully.
    There are people who knew "Fr." Brendan Smyth and "Fr." Sean Fortune who as kind priests - that doesn't mean they were'nt evil men.
    Harte's comments about the quinn's were :

    "You know decent people when you meet them. The Quinns are decent people"

    Yep that was easy for him to say, it wasn't his taxes or insurance policies that were going to pay for the gambling and greed of the Quinns.
    I can't actually recall hearing ANYONE coming out and saying anything negative about the Quinn family and they are highly regarded in their locality with Sean Quinn having done more for the area providing jobs in a wide range of industries than any politician.
    And to clarify they invested in Anglo based on the information given to them BY Anglo which were a reputable institution. Calling them greedy is a bit rich and if they're greedy then anyone who makes any investment is greedy.

    ProudDUB wrote: »
    ....As to the Repeal referendum, he was the figurehead of an organisation that tried to associate itself with the GAA as an organisation,....
    Yep I think that was wrong and the GAA at National level was quick to disassociate itself with it.
    Anyways, Harte is climbing up on top of his 'moral high ground' which he condemns others for doing- but yet he continues to allow Cathal McCarron to play (not in this year's All Ireland-he's got a knee injury).
    It's hardly a bad thing to support one of your players. I could refer to some Dublin players (or virtually any other county players) who have done done some very scummy things and yet continued to play with the support of their managers.
    But where I really dislike his actions is when it comes to his attempts to get men sent off in matches. The diving and exaggerating of fouls is now being focused on a lot more. And that’s a good thing because THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED INTO FOOTBALL AND MUST BE STOPPED NOW. Again, a dishonest way of sending your team out to play.
    There are referees at each game. If the game is not being adequately adujicated then EVERY team is going to take advantage.

    Seeing as your shouting up Dublin - I'll refer to the eye gouge by a certain Dublin player on Kieran Donaghy in 2015 final which if correctly adjudicated should have led to 1. a penalty for Kerry in a tight game and 2. a red card for that Dublin player

    And last years final when four Mayo players were simultaneously dragged to the ground in the final minute during a Dublin kick out. If that was adjudicated correctly - thats four black cards and at least one free in in a scoreable position and Dublin down to 13 men.


    I don't think this should have gotten this far and rte should have had someone up to Ballygawley to smooth it out VERY EARLY on and Mickey is probably being overly sensitive and building a siege mentality but lets not just criticise Tyrone and Harte as though they're the only team and or management being negative


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    But you seem to claim that it did happen? So how do you know?
    If it did happen it would have came out. I know the family in question and the torment the lad went through because of Declan Bonners false allegations was horrendous.
    Disgusting stuff from Donegal!

    Reading comprehension and understanding seems to be an issue here.

    I have not said it happened. I have said that the Ulster council came out and refuted Tyrones claims of saying nothing happened. You claimed the allegations were proved to be false. They werent. Just because something was not proven does not automatically mean it did not happen. It was never proven publicly that something happened. This is in legal terms a verdict of not guilty by means of substantial proof. It does not automatically mean innocence.

    I dont know if it did or didnt happen. Only 2 people can answer that question honestly, and neither me nor you are those 2. An allegation was made and there wasnt enough proof to confirm it. Thats what happened. It's pretty clear, and thats all I've said from the start. I'll only be repeating myself further by continuing after this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭doc_17


    This was proved to be a false allegation made by Donegal management - who actually put the mental health of a minor from Tyrone at risk due to threats and guff he was getting on Twitter.

    It absolutely was not. Having been at the relevant Co Committee meeting where the findings were discussed I am very content in saying what I said. That is all I will say on it.


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