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Tyrone Boycott of RTE Continuing Through Final

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Yeah, if I recall correctly it all started with the Brian Carthy dispute.

    Correct.

    This was the premise for the sketch- the fact a GAA County Manager thought he could dictate who RTE should promote.
    Mickey Harte was lobbying in order to get Brian Carthy a promotion.

    I mean, could you imagine this happened today? Viral.
    A. Manager. Trying. To. Get. His. Journalist. Buddy. Promoted.

    The skit isn't funny, like most of the JM Show's skits, and despite the fact the song was about Omagh, not Ballygawley, its use was a pretty idiotic oversight.

    But if anyone thinks for one minute Mickey Harte's ego isn't the reason for this RTE ban, ask Séan Cavanagh.

    The boycott began before the skit.

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-brian-carthy-and-that-fourpage-letter-to-rte-26741449.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    Not all that interested in Gaelic Football, but I have to wonder why RTE Sports would have the slightest interest in interviewing anyone connected with the 2018 All-Ireland football championships runners-up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Not all that interested in Gaelic Football, but I have to wonder why RTE Sports would have the slightest interest in interviewing anyone connected with the 2018 All-Ireland football championships runners-up?

    The football championship has been so dire, that at this stage you can wonder why RTE would have the slightest interest in interviewing the winner, never mind the runner up.
    Some serious changes needed. Even one of the worst hurling games of the year yesterday in terms of quality managed to muster up boiling point excitement for the last 10 minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Not all that interested in Gaelic Football, but I have to wonder why RTE Sports would have the slightest interest in interviewing anyone connected with the 2018 All-Ireland football championships runners-up?

    Lol...you almost got me. Well played.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    I find it funny they way people refer to RTE doing this insensitive skit, like the board of directors got together and planned it. John Murray did it, probably with approval from a couple of producers, it wasn't like everyone in RTE had a part in it, in any big organization you will have people who mess up, that doesn't mean you should boycott the whole organization when they have apologized.

    You are right not everyone in RTE had a part in it but unfortunately the skit was broadcasted by RTE and thats the organisation that is responsible here. One producer working for RTE and doing the skit is enough to say that the RTE are to blame and allowed it to go ahead. This wasn't a one man job. There would have been a group of producers in RTE that would have passed this skit through.

    Hearte was very close to his daughter and she was brutally murdered and taken away from him. An apology is not even acceptable for what's involved and to think RTE made a mockery of him in his lowest point of his life says enough really. They really shouldn't think an apology would be acceptable in those circumstances.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx



    Harte 'took' offence (as anyone is entitled to) that does not mean that offence was intended.

    Did you not find what RTE did as inappropriate especially after what he went through?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    As if play on the field wasn't going to be one-sided enough, now all the build-up and post match antics will have to be 99% Dublin too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    bruschi wrote: »

    RTE as an organisation apologised, as did the host and the program producers. What more does he want?

    He doesn't want anything to do with RTE


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,686 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    What was actual Siad or emplyed in the skit ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    They might be better off Boycotting the final too


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    I don't understand the thing about Brian carthy. What's that about? What's he got to do with it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,058 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I don't understand the thing about Brian carthy. What's that about? What's he got to do with it?

    It indicates that Harte has had a gripe with RTE going back further than the sketch used as justification for this whole thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Dymo


    This is the skit



    It did seem harmless but naive and a lack of judgement which RTE apologised for straight away. I've seen it reported that his daughter was mentioned in the skit, all false.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I don't understand the thing about Brian carthy. What's that about? What's he got to do with it?

    When Micheal O'Muircheartaigh retired, RTE chose not to give his job (No 1 choice for radio commentator) to just one person, who was guaranteed to get all the big games. Instead, they rotated the role amongst a few commentators - Daragh Moloney, Ger Canning, Marty Morrissey etc. Brian Carty still did games, but not the big ones, like finals. BC was a close, personal friend of the Hartes & MH lobbied RTE to give him the job of Senior match day commentator, or whatever MO'M's old job title was.

    The letter he wrote to RTE was made public. RTE's response was that firstly, MO'M's old job didn't exist anymore, so they couldn't give BC a position that had been abolished. Secondly, they made their own programming choices thank you very much and didn't take too kindly to GAA managers trying to tell them what to do. Cue all this bad feeling kicking off & some genius in the RTE "comedy" department coming up with the idea for the skit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,710 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Did you not find what RTE did as inappropriate especially after what he went through?

    I think Harte 'took' offence rather than anyone setting out to cause offence about his daughter.

    I accept fully that somebody should have seen the connection between the song and the Harte's tragedy but people make gaffes and mistakes about such things everyday of the week and the world doesn't implode. RTE and the programme apologised immediately and the people of Tyrone and Harte should have been big enough to accept it.

    Harte is an egotist and was one long before his daughter died, there are those right now in Tyrone living in fear of him or upsetting him. But there are also many many who want him gone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    He doesn't want anything to do with RTE

    No.
    He doesn't want Tyrone GAA to have anything to do with RTE. Its not just him, but it's all about him. He has made this decision for all of his county and his players, and he attempted to rope other counties into his personal feud with RTE.

    And this bias and feud arose prior to the terrible murder of his beautiful daughter.
    If he has an axe to grind with them so be it, but it's his axe, it shouldn't be the whole county's .


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Call me Al wrote: »
    No.
    He doesn't want Tyrone GAA to have anything to do with RTE. Its not just him, but it's all about him. He has made this decision for all of his county and his players, and he attempted to rope other counties into his personal feud with RTE.

    And this bias arose prior to the terrible murder of his beautiful daughter.
    If he has an axe to grind with them so be it, but it's his axe, it shouldn't be the whole county's .


    Ridiculous that it is continuing but nobody will tell Micky differently. I think it takes away from the building up of it all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Boycott started before any sketch, see below.


    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-brian-carthy-and-that-fourpage-letter-to-rte-26741449.html


    Interesting that some of the managers on the letter Harte sent to RTE didn't know anything about it even though their names were on it.
    Have to say he comes across as quite a bully and you'd have to say not the most truthful, just go back to his claims that Sky wanted the pitch narrowed , something they completely deny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    What made Harte think he should have had any say on who RTE uses to commentate on games?


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,710 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    What made Harte think he should have had any say on who RTE uses to commentate on games?

    In fairness, he is not the only one who tries to use their 'clout' to get their way with RTE.

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-gavin-in-standoff-with-rt-over-dvd-dispute-36601769.html
    RTÉ have been refused interviews with Dublin manager Jim Gavin over consecutive Allianz League weekends as a new stand-off between the national broadcaster and the All-Ireland football champions opened up.

    It's believed that the provision of DVD recordings of recent Dublin games for analysis purposes is at the heart of the current impasse.

    It's understood that while most teams record their games for video analysis, some also look for footage from RTE because the national broadcaster generally has more camera angles - including behind the goal - at a game.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭Paranoid Mandroid


    Dymo wrote: »
    This is the skit



    It did seem harmless but naive and a lack of judgement which RTE apologised for straight away. I've seen it reported that his daughter was mentioned in the skit, all false.

    Putting aside it being in bad taste, it's not one bit funny. They've more work to do than making sure thier content is in good taste.

    Frankie Boyle says way more offensive stuff but his delivery and content is excellent. That's comedy. This rte piece is pure garbage. Anyway...


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,710 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Putting aside it being in bad taste, it's not one bit funny. They've more work to do than making sure thier content is in good taste.

    Frankie Boyle says way more offensive stuff but his delivery and content is excellent. That's comedy. This rte piece is pure garbage. Anyway...

    To put it in context it was a 2 minute segment at the start of a magazine show. Not exactly where you would go to consume high end comedy. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭Paranoid Mandroid


    To put it in context it was a 2 minute segment at the start of a magazine show. Not exactly where you would go to consume high end comedy. :D

    Ok that's true. Micky mouse stuff


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    Mickey Harte took the cup to my secondary school in South Derry in 2008, he also gave a speech to us in 2010 (couple months before daughter died) I don't like Tyrone GAA but he seemed like a decent sort, I don't want to see him lifting any more cups though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Mickey Harte took the cup to my school in South Derry in 2008, he also gave a speech to us in 2010 (couple months before daughter died) I don't like Tyrone GAA but he seemed like a decent sort, I don't want to see him lifting any more cups though.

    He's an ego the size of tyrone


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    Tyrone will do their talking on the football pitch.

    By talking, I mean nasty sledging.
    By football pitch, I mean handpassing pitch.

    They don't even retire from sledging either, that vile Eoin Mulligan making Londonderry jokes recently on twitter, the man from the plantation town of Cookstown, I made sure to put him in his place.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    I find it funny they way people refer to RTE doing this insensitive skit, like the board of directors got together and planned it. John Murray did it, probably with approval from a couple of producers, it wasn't like everyone in RTE had a part in it, in any big organization you will have people who mess up, that doesn't mean you should boycott the whole organization when they have apologized.

    That's not how our Northern minds work, if a county Cork man makes an anti northern joke we boycott the whole of Munster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    What made Harte think he should have had any say on who RTE uses to commentate on games?


    Maybe the same reason he thought he had a say at the rally for Sean Quinn - up on the back of the trailer with Colm O'Rourke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    ProudDUB wrote:
    When Micheal O'Muircheartaigh retired, RTE chose not to give his job (No 1 choice for radio commentator) to just one person, who was guaranteed to get all the big games. Instead, they rotated the role amongst a few commentators - Daragh Moloney, Ger Canning, Marty Morrissey etc. Brian Carty still did games, but not the big ones, like finals. BC was a close, personal friend of the Hartes & MH lobbied RTE to give him the job of Senior match day commentator, or whatever MO'M's old job title was.

    ProudDUB wrote:
    The letter he wrote to RTE was made public. RTE's response was that firstly, MO'M's old job didn't exist anymore, so they couldn't give BC a position that had been abolished. Secondly, they made their own programming choices thank you very much and didn't take too kindly to GAA managers trying to tell them what to do. Cue all this bad feeling kicking off & some genius in the RTE "comedy" department coming up with the idea for the skit.


    I see thanks. I must check out that letter. As poster above says it really is a MH thing and ban should not be so widespread. Tyrone GAA must back him though? Do all the players? Getting to an all Ireland final means a lot of publicity that players look forward to. It does not hinder your work career. Are they happy to forego that?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,399 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I think its telling that his former star player and captain, recently retired, now regularly appears on the Sunday Game.

    Seems like its Mickey's way or no way, so long as you're answerable to him.


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