Wildcard 2018/19

Iused2likebusts

When the CL kicks in if Liverpool have a difficult group I can see mane getting rotated in some league games. Of the front 3 salah and firmino are more important than him not in terms of FF but in terms of how Liverpool function. I wouldn't be expecting mane to keep pace with salah and think salah is worth 3.5 more than mane.

Invincible

COH wrote: »

Hazard and Ings for me

+1

eagle eye

Surely Salah is more at risk of rotation during ECL games. Shaqiri plays on his side of the pitch.
Also Sturridge is fit and will get games to rest Firminho and Mane but I'd guess that one of them is more likely to start around ECL games than Salah.

Benimar

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

When the CL kicks in if Liverpool have a difficult group I can see mane getting rotated in some league games. Of the front 3 salah and firmino are more important than him not in terms of FF but in terms of how Liverpool function. I wouldn't be expecting mane to keep pace with salah and think salah is worth 3.5 more than mane.

eagle eye wrote: »

Surely Salah is more at risk of rotation during ECL games. Shaqiri plays on his side of the pitch.
Also Sturridge is fit and will get games to rest Firminho and Mane but I'd guess that one of them is more likely to start around ECL games than Salah.

I’d agree with Busts. Firmino and Salah are far more important to the way Liverpool play.

Obviously a lot depends on the CL draw and how the fixtures fall but Mane is the one who could be prone to more rotation...especially if he has many games like last Saturday, when he was awful.

manual_man

Would it be batshït crazy to leave Salah out of my wildcard and just leave enough funds to upgrade either Walcott or Pedro (who I both really fancy over the next 2) to him in a couple of weeks time? Gut says they both outscore Salah over the next 2.

hufpc8w3adnk65

manual_man wrote: »

Would it be batshït crazy to leave Salah out of my wildcard and just leave enough funds to upgrade either Walcott or Pedro (who I both really fancy over the next 2) to him in a couple of weeks time? Gut says they both outscore Salah over the next 2.

Yes it is Crazy. Also you’d most Likey need a hit to get him back in

RisingDamp

Team A:

Foster

Mendy, PVA, Coleman, Tarkowski

Salah, Neves, Hazard, Sané

Tosun, Zaha

or

Team B (Wildcard):

Foster

Mendy, Alonso, PVA, Coleman

Salah, Jorginho, Hazard

Zaha, Aguero, Tosun


Effectively wildcarding to get three players in. Probably not worth it

macraignil

RisingDamp wrote: »

Team A:

Foster

Mendy, PVA, Coleman, Tarkowski

Salah, Neves, Hazard, Sané

Tosun, Zaha

or

Team B (Wildcard):

Foster

Mendy, Alonso, PVA, Coleman

Salah, Jorginho, Hazard

Zaha, Aguero, Tosun

I'd not go with either. Jorginho seems to be playing defensive midfield which isn't great for FPL points and Sane has yet to play more than 15minutes in a game since the start of the season and so remains too much of a rotation risk for the money required in my opinion. Other choices look OK to me.

S.M.B.

MrMac84 wrote: »

Yes it is Crazy. Also you’d most Likey need a hit to get him back in

I think he's saying to leave the necessary money in the bank to upgrade so there should be no need for the hit.

It's a super risky move but if you feel like Salah isn't going to go up in value (he's slowly creeping up) and will not outscore either of those players then it's an option.

PARlance

macraignil wrote: »

I'd not go with either. Jorginho seems to be playing defensive midfield which isn't great for FPL points and Sane has yet to play more than 15minutes in a game since the start of the season and so remains too much of a rotation risk for the money required in my opinion. Other choices look OK to me.

Plus Jorginho will/may not have penalties with Hazard back. He has one in his points to date.

dahat

I'm nearly settled in the below team.

Hamer / Begovic

Alonso Mendy WB Monreal Bennett

Hazard Gundog Guendozi Salah Walcott

Ings Aguero Mitro

2.0 ITB if Gundog doesn't work out or to replace Kun with Kane.

My keepers I'm iffy about and could replace both for 4.5/4.5 if a good option was suggested.

Porthallian

Anybody considered a Kane/Kun attack?

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Alonso Duffy Wan-B (Bennett)
Salah Pedro Mane Guendozi (Westwood)
Aguero Kane (Kamara)

callaway92

Porthallian wrote: »

Anybody considered a Kane/Kun attack?

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Alonso Duffy Wan-B (Bennett)
Salah Pedro Mane Guendozi (Westwood)
Aguero Kane (Kamara)

Your midfield is crippled there. Defence weak too tbh

Porthallian

callaway92 wrote: »

Your midfield is crippled there. Defence weak too tbh

Salah Mane and Pedro?

callaway92

Porthallian wrote: »

Salah Mane and Pedro?

Yes, and then two defensive mids.

Pedro isn't going to last as a starter. You can't be starting Guendozi or Westwood so you'll be relying on playing 4 defenders every week and then having a sweat on Pedro every game.

PARlance

callaway92 wrote: »

Yes, and then two defensive mids.

Pedro isn't going to last as a starter. You can't be starting Guendozi or Westwood so you'll be relying on playing 4 defenders every week and then having a sweat on Pedro every game.

There's always the option to transfer him out.

extra gravy

3 x 4.5m attackers and 2 x 4m defenders, having Kane cripples the whole team imo. Unless you're chasing and want to captain him over Salah/Aguero, then I don't see how he provides value for money.

PARlance

Porthallian wrote: »

Anybody considered a Kane/Kun attack?

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Alonso Duffy Wan-B (Bennett)
Salah Pedro Mane Guendozi (Westwood)
Aguero Kane (Kamara)

I've thought about it a bit but will wait a few weeks to WC.

Mendy to 4.5-5m and a Guendozi upgrade would be my change above.

S.M.B.

4.5 Keeper Hamer
Mendy Alonso Robertson Wan-B (Bennett)
Salah Hazard Walcott Mhki (4.5 Mid)
Aguero Mitrovic (Ings)

or

4.5 Keeper Hamer
Mendy Alonso Robertson Shaw (Wan-B)
Salah Hazard Walcott Pereyra (4.5 Mid)
Aguero Mitrovic (Ings)

Any advice on the two 4.5-ers would also be appreciated.

callaway92

PARlance wrote: »

There's always the option to transfer him out.

I know how the game works bud. Thanks

Porthallian

callaway92 wrote: »

Yes, and then two defensive mids.

Pedro isn't going to last as a starter. You can't be starting Guendozi or Westwood so you'll be relying on playing 4 defenders every week and then having a sweat on Pedro every game.

Pedro will become Richarlison once he's back.
I think Wan-B is a season keeper.
Two 4.5 mids. Will play one of them or Kamara each week.

I could downgrade Mane and upgrade one of them. But I like having Mane/Salah double up

callaway92

Porthallian wrote: »

Pedro will become Richarlison once he's back.
I think Wan-B is a season keeper.
Two 4.5 mids. Will play one of them or Kamara each week.

I could downgrade Mane and upgrade one of them. But I like having Mane/Salah double up

Fair enough on Pedro to Richarlison. Don't like having to play one of those 4.5 guys or Kamara.

Personal preference tho

Porthallian

callaway92 wrote: »

Fair enough on Pedro to Richarlison. Don't like having to play one of those 4.5 guys or Kamara.

Personal preference tho

It's only one spot. Almost a guaranteed 2-3 points each week.

It's Kane/4.5 mid vs likely Mitro/Hazard or Mhky/Firmino

callaway92

Porthallian wrote: »

It's only one spot. Almost a guaranteed 2-3 points each week.

It's Kane/4.5 mid vs likely Mitro/Hazard or Mhky/Firmino

Would be curious as to what most people would choose there - Surely one of the latter two?

Dearg81

callaway92 wrote:

Would be curious as to what most people would choose there - Surely one of the latter two?

On a wildcard and I have Mitrovic and Hazard at the moment.

callaway92

Dearg81 wrote: »

On a wildcard and I have Mitrovic and Hazard at the moment.

Have Mitro too. Would love to get Hazard in

Pogue eile

callaway92 wrote: »

Porthallian wrote: »

It's only one spot. Almost a guaranteed 2-3 points each week.

It's Kane/4.5 mid vs likely Mitro/Hazard or Mhky/Firmino

Would be curious as to what most people would choose there - Surely one of the latter two?

Middle one for me, I agree its between the latter two, particularly if the 4.5m mid is going to be a starter, Liverpools fixtures are horrible and Firmino is essientially an OOP player teh wrong way around and Arsenal while having great fixtures have been a bit meh

Pogue eile

callaway92 wrote: »

Porthallian wrote: »

It's only one spot. Almost a guaranteed 2-3 points each week.

It's Kane/4.5 mid vs likely Mitro/Hazard or Mhky/Firmino

Would be curious as to what most people would choose there - Surely one of the latter two?

Middle one for me, I agree its between the latter two, particularly if the 4.5m mid is going to be a starter, Liverpools fixtures are horrible and Firmino is essientially an OOP player teh wrong way around and Arsenal while having great fixtures have been a bit meh

shatners bassoon

Giving PEA another game or two. If he he doesn’t get his act the together the money will give me a bit of leeway to change things around.


Begovic (Hamer)

Wan-Bissaka Mendy Robertson Alonso Shaw

Salah Walcott Dilva (Guendouzi, Stephens)

Aubameyang Aguero (Kamara)

COH

Doesn't matter when you get Hazard in he'll blank endlessly until the week after you sell him

FHFC

COH wrote: »

Doesn't matter when you get Hazard in he'll blank endlessly until the week after you sell him

True dat.

Porthallian

Porthallian wrote: »

Anybody considered a Kane/Kun attack?

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Alonso Duffy Wan-B (Bennett)
Salah Pedro Mane Guendozi (Westwood)
Aguero Kane (Kamara)

Have now done Mane/Kamara to Moura/Zaha for balance. Going 4-3-3.

Have .4m left.
No decent 4.9m mids though

extra gravy

Porthallian wrote: »

Have now done Mane/Kamara to Moura/Zaha for balance. Going 4-3-3.

Have .4m left.
No decent 4.9m mids though

Cairney wouldn't be the worst shout, got an assist at the weekend but he's a doubt for the next match.

Dearg81

The Wolves winger Costa is a decent 4.9 player too and plays in an attacking team.

S.M.B.

Porthallian wrote: »

Have now done Mane/Kamara to Moura/Zaha for balance. Going 4-3-3.

Have .4m left.
No decent 4.9m mids though

You are hardly close to getting an extra .1 out of mane? Could get brooks if so. I'm tempted to squeeze him into my squad.

Porthallian

Dearg81 wrote: »

The Wolves winger Costa is a decent 4.9 player too and plays in an attacking team.

Cheers guys. Think I'll go Costa for now and await further news on Cairney.
Can't stretch to the 5m options which is a pity.

bohsman

Porthallian wrote: »

Anybody considered a Kane/Kun attack?

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Alonso Duffy Wan-B (Bennett)
Salah Pedro Mane Guendozi (Westwood)
Aguero Kane (Kamara)

Trying it with 
Fabianski Begovic
Mendy Robertson Alonso (wan bis) (bennet)
Mane Pedro Pereyra Walcott Gundogan
Aguero Kane Ings

I think Gundogan has the potential to be FF gold and I'm happy rotating that front 8, if Pedro gets dropped I'll adapt but I think he is one of the best value players in the game this season. If Kane flops and Salah is must have it should be a 4 point hit at worst to get him back.

Porthallian

Porthallian wrote: »

Anybody considered a Kane/Kun attack?

Toyed with it. Don't think you can have both Salah and Mane at the same time as both of the big guns.

Best I've come up with:

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Trippier Cook (Wan-B Bennett)
Salah Pedro Walcott Neves (Pereyra)
Aguero Kane (Ings)

with just enough change to get Ricky back in for either Pedro or Walcott. Could replace (Neves/Pereyra) with (Gundogan/Milner) also.

PARlance

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Toyed with it. Don't think you can have both Salah and Mant the same time as both of the big guns.

Best I've come up with:

Hennesy Hamer
Mendy Trippier Cook (Wan-B Bennett)
Salah Pedro Walcott Neves (Pereyra)
Aguero Kane (Ings)

with just enough change to get Ricky back in for either Pedro or Walcott. Could replace (Neves/Pereyra) with (Gundogan/Milner) also.

That's very close to the best I've come up with too and it's kinda growing on me tbh.

I think it's only a matter of time before people will want Salah, Hazard, Kane, Aguero in attack. I don't think 4 can be done, most will have 2 but I think 3 could be a great differential.

I had something this in mind for a few weeks time:

Foster (Speroni)
Alonso, Mendy, Lovren (WanB, Peltier)
Salah, Richarlison, Schurrle, Pedro, Pereyra
Kane, Aguero, (Quarner)

Depending on price changes, I think it would leave me with 0.6 to get an extra playing defender. 3 duds is 1 too many, even for me.

KevIRL

PARlance wrote: »

That's very close to the best I've come up with too and it's kinda growing on me tbh.

I think it's only a matter of time before people will want Salah, Hazard, Kane, Aguero in attack. I don't think 4 can be done, most will have 2 but I think 3 could be a great differential.

I had something this in mind for a few weeks time:

Foster (Speroni)
Alonso, Mendy, Lovren (WanB, Peltier)
Salah, Richarlison, Schurrle, Pedro, Pereyra
Kane, Aguero, (Quarner)

Depending on price changes, I think it would leave me with 0.6 to get an extra playing defender. 3 duds is 1 too many, even for me.

Have 3 of the four now. The four is impossible though without the rest of the team being awful

Foster/Ryan
Mendy/Robertson/Alonso/AWB/peltier
Salah/hazard/Walcott/kante/gunnarson
Aguero/Arnie/mitrovic

0.6itb

Yeah, it's tempting alright. It's just a few too many risks to be taking on the midfield, I feel. Quite possible that Pedro, Walcott, Schurrle, Pereyra could all end up firing blanks in the next few weeks.

bohsman

Fabianski Hamer
Laporte Gomez Luiz (wan bis) (bennet)
Salah Hazard Pereyra Guendouzi Gundogan
Aguero Kane Kamara

The big 4 but not much else!

Shanotheslayer

bohsman wrote: »

Fabianski Hamer
Laporte Gomez Luiz (wan bis) (bennet)
Salah Hazard Pereyra Guendouzi Gundogan
Aguero Kane Kamara

The big 4 but not much else!

Wan B, Bennett,Kamara and Salah ? :pac:

FunRun1990

A: Hazard, Milner, Neves and Fraser
or
B: Moura, Mkhitaryan, Walcott and Pererya

CSWS101

FunRun1990 wrote: »

A: Hazard, Milner, Neves and Fraser
or
B: Moura, Mkhitaryan, Walcott and Pererya

Do you have to play 4 midfielders? Could maybe fit in Hazard, Fraser, Walcott/Mikey Ryan, 4.4/4.5 fodder

Pogue eile

Amazing that everyone to a man has WanB but all have him on the bench, I have been incredibly impressed by both him and Palace's defence as a unit and I think everyne will have him as a starter by the end of October.

manual_man

Pogue eile wrote: »

Amazing that everyone to a man has WanB but all have him on the bench, I have been incredibly impressed by both him and Palace's defence as a unit and I think everyne will have him as a starter by the end of October.

After my wildcard is finalised I'll be starting him most weeks.

S.M.B.

I am the same, I'm leaning towards two 4.0m defenders but playing Wan B permanently, especially with their good run of fixtures. I think he'll be one of the best value players come Christmas.

The real mccoy 91

The real mccoy 91 wrote: »

After a little tinkering I can make a nice team without salah but I'm hesitant

Foster hamer
Alonso bavies mendy robbo wan b
Mane hazard walcott mhki Fraser
Kane Joselu Jimenez

Is a premium backline really the way to go this year?

I think a premium backline is my favourite looking team swapped aguero in for kane and will upgrade walcott I think but I think that team looks much better than what I am currently on

Fab hamer
Taa wan b laporte Monreal Alonso
Dilva mhki hazard mane Lucas
Mitro aguero success

eagle eye

I'm of the opinion that there are three defenders at the present moment that are worth paying a premium for and they are Alonso, Mendy and Robertson.
I think you get fodder St ye back with those, WanB in particular and you are all set in defense.
Midfield is where it's at imo. You need to get the right midfield as that is where the differential is going to take place.
I don't think anybody can afford Kane and Aguero up top so midfield is going to be the key.