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Dairy Chitchat 3

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    #5582
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    No, for him it's about, opportunity cost. His time is more valuable, elsewhere.


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    #5583
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,650 ✭✭✭straight


    Water John wrote: »
    No, for him it's about, opportunity cost. His time is more valuable, elsewhere.

    Ya, that's the case for all of us. Work 80 hours a week at anything else and you will know.


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    #5584
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    straight wrote: »
    That's the thing. Dairying is too labour intensive.

    The work isn't hard, as such, but very time consuming. I couldn't do on/off grazing because I'd have to move two lots of cattle to get the cows back into the cubicles any time I wanted them inside so they were either in or out.

    We've been doing a bit of work around the yard this past 2 years and we have a roadway almost finished to allow the cows into the cubicles directly from the farm road so we will be doing a bit of on/off grazing later this year, hopefully.

    I didn't even think of going into the cubicles this way until a friend came in and pointed out that a small road extension and two gates could sort out that problem for me. The plan would be to leave them off after milking for 3 hours and then bring them in until the next milking. I'm hoping they will figure out how to return themselves fairly soon without me having to go for them.


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    #5585
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Depends what's inside for them. Nephew has maize tmr, they don't want to go out a wet day.
    A fresh pair of eyes sees different things.


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    #5586
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    straight wrote: »
    Ya, that's the case for all of us. Work 80 hours a week at anything else and you will know.

    I wouldn't do anything else. If you dont like cows do something else but I actually couldn't think of one thing I'd rather do.
    My sister and her soon to be husband are gone from the house 11 hrs a day 5 days a week, yes they have there weekends off and bank holidays and can forget about it all once they finish for the weekend but they're nearly 30 and wont be able to buy a house for a while yet.
    Not all its cracked up to be either


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    #5587
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,650 ✭✭✭straight


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    I wouldn't do anything else. If you dont like cows do something else but I actually couldn't think of one thing I'd rather do.
    My sister and her soon to be husband are gone from the house 11 hrs a day 5 days a week, yes they have there weekends off and bank holidays and can forget about it all once they finish for the weekend but they're nearly 30 and wont be able to buy a house for a while yet.
    Not all its cracked up to be either

    Exactly. Just don't do it for the money. I've seen both sides and am happier farming for the most part. You get bad days in every job.


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    #5588
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    straight wrote: »
    Exactly. Just don't do it for the money. I've seen both sides and am happier farming for the most part. You get bad days in every job.

    Theres money in it too if you do it well and arebt over borrowed when a year like last year comes along
    Quite a few in my DG are living fairly comfortably, doesn't happen over night though


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    #5589
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    https://twitter.com/greenpeaceuk/status/1158337628942585856?s=21

    It was only a matter of time before this crowd jumped on the bandwagon. They’ll keep pushing this into public focus...


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    #5590
    Keep Sluicing
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/greenpeaceuk/status/1158337628942585856?s=21

    It was only a matter of time before this crowd jumped on the bandwagon. They’ll keep pushing this into public focus...

    Which is a good thing really. ...


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    #5591
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    A guy started up near me when quotas went with 50 cows and is pulling out this year. He's won a good few prizes for SCC since he started but says he can't justify the time the cows take away from his contracting business.

    Going buying weanlings and finishing them instead while the lease lasts on the farm he's taken.
    You rarely see a metal-head sticking with the cows, or milking them themselves anyway.


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    #5592
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    A hydraulic scraper on slats?
    Is there a need?
    Feeding one side of tank and row of cubicles the other side.
    22ft wide tank


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    #5593
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    A hydraulic scraper on slats?
    Is there a need?
    Feeding one side of tank and row of cubicles the other side.
    22ft wide tank

    Jam and jam on it springs to mind. The robot scraper seems very popular with robots milking though.


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    #5594
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    Jam and jam on it springs to mind. The robot scraper seems very popular with robots milking though.

    I rang up.to price scrapers and we ended up talking about the cubicles on the tank, they'll probably leave beds cleaner?
    I have the grant approved for a scraper there but have since decided to out a tank there.
    Robot would be great but it would have to be a collector model and couldbt justify the price tag for 4 months full time use


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    #5595
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    A hydraulic scraper on slats?
    Is there a need?
    Feeding one side of tank and row of cubicles the other side.
    22ft wide tank

    Nope no need


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    #5596
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,650 ✭✭✭straight


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Nope no need

    No need. There will be plenty of traffic at the feed face. You will only cause sore legs.


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    #5597
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The robot will keep your collecting clean all year round. It won't be idle one day in the year IWT. Lad near me has one, very happy with it.


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    #5598
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Anyone else get the progressive genetics use us or we'll cancel your shares letter in the last week?
    Rule 13 allows them to do that apparently,


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    #5599
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Anyone else get the progressive genetics use us or we'll cancel your shares letter in the last week?
    Rule 13 allows them to do that apparently,

    Tell us more


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    #5600
    visatorro
    Registered Users Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Anyone else get the progressive genetics use us or we'll cancel your shares letter in the last week?
    Rule 13 allows them to do that apparently,


    Got a letter and didn't even open it!!


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    #5601
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,308 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    From what I found out is if you haven't traded with them for a certain period of time they will send you this letter. Options are hold onto the shares, transfer them to someone, or sell them. My point to them has been what advantage is there to being a shareholder. No reduction in fees or discounts for usage etc. It's supposed to be a farmer co OP owned by farmers so we should be treated better. After saying all that they are doing something right as they have alot of the top bulls in the country


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    #5602
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Water John wrote: »
    The robot will keep your collecting clean all year round. It won't be idle one day in the year IWT. Lad near me has one, very happy with it.

    You can't have an incline of more than 1ft in 100ft so that rules out my collecting yard. Mine rises fairly quickly on one spot


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    #5603
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    From what I found out is if you haven't traded with them for a certain period of time they will send you this letter. Options are hold onto the shares, transfer them to someone, or sell them. My point to them has been what advantage is there to being a shareholder. No reduction in fees or discounts for usage etc. It's supposed to be a farmer co OP owned by farmers so we should be treated better. After saying all that they are doing something right as they have alot of the top bulls in the country

    2 of my milk recording neighbour's got the same letter
    Rule 13 says 18 months of no trading
    I've certainly traded with them in that period
    They may be in hot water if the consumer and competition authority get wind of this
    A company cannot have rules that penalise customers for not trading with them enough
    Theres no mention in the letter of payment if your shares are cancelled either


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    #5604
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,308 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    2 of my milk recording neighbour's got the same letter
    Rule 13 says 18 months of no trading
    I've certainly traded with them in that period
    They may be in hot water if the consumer and competition authority get wind of this
    A company cannot have rules that penalise customers for not trading with them enough
    Theres no mention in the letter of payment if your shares are cancelled either

    Isn't the milk recording a separate business though. It is billed as Rowler on the bills


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    #5605
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Isn't the milk recording a separate business though. It is billed as Rowler on the bills

    I dont know but it's the same CoOp so shouldn't matter
    I've been trading with them on and off since before I originally bought the shares back in 95,yet they don't seem to know
    Any AI is out of my milk cheque

    Never one cent of a dividend in 24 years


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    #5606
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,308 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Did you read the full letter? I got it today. I don't think you did


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    #5607
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    The best part of milk recording is the following milking, so easy compared to messing with bottles and numbers and blocked air holes:mad:


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    #5608
    Injuryprone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    A hydraulic scraper on slats?
    Is there a need?
    Feeding one side of tank and row of cubicles the other side.
    22ft wide tank

    A relation of mine has cubicles on slats and they're fairly dirty tbh. You wouldn't necessarily need to have a scraper over the full width of the slats


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    #5609
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Did you read the full letter? I got it today. I don't think you did

    I did
    Theres a value put in the attached forms if you want to sell to someone
    No mention of any consideration ifyou do nothing and they cancel


    You have to find a willing buyer yourself and who would buy something for no return?


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    #5610
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    The best part of milk recording is the following milking, so easy compared to messing with bottles and numbers and blocked air holes:mad:
    Find a good milk recorder and you'll never want to see DIY again.


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    #5611
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    Find a good milk recorder and you'll never want to see DIY again.

    They're struggling to find relief milkers here atm and there's a queue for the recorders for lads not wanting to use the DIY recording. I asked earlier this year about it.

    I have the eldest helping me so it's not as bad as it was doing it on my own a few years ago. Freeze branding would help as well:o


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