Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [** POSSIBLE SPOILERS **]

Stop moaning ffs

Ok well they better find a way to have mckellan be in it and be his pal. Somehow.

EltonJohn69

Mckellen definitely has the range to play a hybrid human/space horse.....

368100

AMKC wrote: »

Just made Picard upset and grumpy but I suppose very little difference to the plot. Maybe they just thought they needed a big emotional impact in it and that was it the same way Spock dying in TWOK is there big one in that but we all know which one came of best and had the most impact.

Did it not make him consider or regret not having a family of his own? So when he was in the nexus in the ideal life it would have made him want to stay more? That's how I took why they killed off the family anyways.

Sad Professor

The purpose of killing his brother and nephew in Generations was to make Picard worried about his mortality and thus vulnerable to Soran and the temptations of the Nexus. Under normal circumstances neither would have posed even the slightest challenge to Picard. All of the TNG films did some variation of this because Picard as written in the show was practically invulnerable most of the time. His greatest foe was a god-like being.

Stark

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

The fact that Picard isn’t on a horse in the poster proves that Star Trek has lost its soul/essence.

I was googling for where Picard and horses came appeared in TNG other than that episode where he goes back to the ship for his saddle and gets trapped with a bunch of terrorists/looters during a baryon sweep.

The internet is a strange and wonderful place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKEHadGptaw

Stop moaning ffs

Shadowfax

Make him Q. Come to taunt Picard in a new form

Goodshape

TheValeyard wrote: »

And it made zero difference to the plot. There was no reason to kill off the family.

It allowed Malcom McDowell to deliver the line "They say time is the fire in which we burn", which was cool.

Generations was a good looking film actually. TNG on the big screen (with much better lighting) in a way we never quite saw again – with the sequels new darker tones, new ship, new suits, etc.

EltonJohn69

Generations is great ! Very underrated !!!

Goodshape

I think the main narrative and everything to do with Kirk just doesn't really work, unfortunately. It's not a good portrayal of Kirk and seems unnecessary to everything else in a story that is already straining credulity.

But the rest of it is fun to watch, yeah.

Justin Credible Darts

Stark wrote: »

I was googling for where Picard and horses came appeared in TNG other than that episode where he goes back to the ship for his saddle and gets trapped with a bunch of terrorists/looters during a baryon sweep.

The internet is a strange and wonderful place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKEHadGptaw

did you know all the horses used in generations, ridden by picard and kirk were all of williams shatners own horses

Stop moaning ffs

None of the TNG films worked for me. And maybe cos I adored the series as a kid. Just a huge shift. Haven’t seen them in years though might be due a rewatch

BrookieD

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

None of the TNG films worked for me. And maybe cos I adored the series as a kid. Just a huge shift. Haven’t seen them in years though might be due a rewatch

First Contact is Epic as Trek films go, up there but just behind Wrath of Khan

Johnny Storm

What really ruined Generations for me was when I found out that

Scotty and Checkovs roles were written for Spock and McCoy, but they could not get Nimoy and Kelly on board

Also First Contact is a great actioner with some good scenes but IMHO it does not stand up to a lot of rewatching. Plus, it made the Borg into just another bunch of zombies....

BrookieD

Johnny Storm wrote: »

What really ruined Generations for me was when I found out that

Scotty and Checkovs roles were written for Spock and McCoy, but they could not get Nimoy and Kelly on board

Also First Contact is a great actioner with some good scenes but IMHO it does not stand up to a lot of rewatching. Plus, it made the Borg into just another bunch of zombies....

Ohh i could watch FC when ever it drops on TV or when on a flight and need to fill the time

FutureGuy

TheValeyard wrote: »

And it made zero difference to the plot. There was no reason to kill off the family.

It made a huge difference! There was a strong undercurrent about Picard coming to terms with his mortality.

AMKC

Sad Professor wrote: »

The purpose of killing his brother and nephew in Generations was to make Picard worried about his mortality and thus vulnerable to Soran and the temptations of the Nexus. Under normal circumstances neither would have posed even the slightest challenge to Picard. All of the TNG films did some variation of this because Picard as written in the show was practically invulnerable most of the time. His greatest foe was a god-like being.

And the Borg.

J Mysterio

So when is it going to release, and where can we watch it? Its not gonna be a Prime thing or something is it?

pixelburp

J Mysterio wrote: »

So when is it going to release, and where can we watch it? Its not gonna be a Prime thing or something is it?

IIRC, Prime has the international broadcast rights for this. Otherwise it's on CBS and their own online service.

Pity Trek will have scattered broadcast, I intend cancelling my Prime account TBH.

368100

Sad Professor wrote: »

The purpose of killing his brother and nephew in Generations was to make Picard worried about his mortality and thus vulnerable to Soran and the temptations of the Nexus. Under normal circumstances neither would have posed even the slightest challenge to Picard. All of the TNG films did some variation of this because Picard as written in the show was practically invulnerable most of the time. His greatest foe was a god-like being.

I would have said his greatest for was the Borg, not Q. Q almost became an annoying friend at the end.

Sad Professor

368100 wrote: »

I would have said his greatest for was the Borg, not Q. Q almost became an annoying friend at the end.

Archenemies are often like that though. Picard didn't fight the Borg enough in the series for them to be his greatest foe. And his post-BOBW encounters with them weren't a big deal. Even the first draft of First Contact had him chilling on the planet mostly unaffected by his experiences while Riker faced down the Borg on the ship. Which is exactly the kind of thing that would have happened in the series where Picard was rarely not in control. After notes from Stewart and the studio, they put Picard in the middle of the action but had to justify it by making him emotionally compromised. All 4 films did this.

pixelburp

Q wasn't really a foe, not in any conventional senes of the antagonist; he and Picard had a patter more in line of best frenemies, and Q himself operating as a Trickster God who irritated Picard rather than acted as some kind of adversary. In fact, going by my memories of "Tapestry", there's an argument that Q was actually quite fond of Picard.

EltonJohn69

I think they really messed up by calling the show Picard, its a bit blunt and obvious. I think the better title would have been "Jean-Luc" or "My Captain" or my favourite; "BridgeMaster".

Slydice

lol, show name brainstorm session!!

Stargazer > all other guesses

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

show name brainstorm session complete!

Stop moaning ffs

Slydice wrote: »

lol, show name brainstorm session!!

Stargazer > all other guesses

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

show name brainstorm session complete!

Apparently the show is ruined beciase he wasn’t sitting on a horse in the poster.

That’s the internet for ya

odyssey06

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Apparently the show is ruined beciase he wasn’t sitting on a horse in the poster... That’s the internet for ya

I am reminded of Hugh Grant interviewing Julia Roberts in Notting Hill pretending to be from Horse & Hound (?) magazine
This is the kind of review I would from such a magazine.

EltonJohn69

Hugh Grant would make a great Star Trek villain

Stark

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

I think they really messed up by calling the show Picard, its a bit blunt and obvious. I think the better title would have been "Jean-Luc" or "My Captain" or my favourite; "BridgeMaster".

I saw a quote in a recent interview from Patrick Stewart that "Picard" might be a codename and the actual name is yet to be revealed.

Evade

Stark wrote: »

I saw a quote in a recent interview from Patrick Stewart that "Picard" might be a codename and the actual name is yet to be revealed.

That seems unlikely now that the poster is out, changing it would hurt it's search results.

AMKC

Evade wrote: »

That seems unlikely now that the poster is out, changing it would hurt it's search results.

That and the fact there is a teaser trailer out with it as the name of the show.

I don't mind it. Sure they could have went for something less obvious but they did not.

Rawr

pixelburp wrote: »

Methinks a trailer is not far around the corner (in time for comic con no doubt)

Also: doggo! So, prizes for best guessed name?

I would be so delighted if the dog's name was: "Will"