Liam Miller - An Irish Solution To An Irish Problem

PTH2009

Hopefully I'll get to go down to it. Be nice to support the cause and see what the stadium will be like marked out in a soccer format

The timings is very unusual. 3pm on a Tuesday People will be in work, kids in school etc at that time. Surly they could of talked the players into having it on a weekend

Bonniedog

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hopefully I'll get to go down to it. Be nice to support the cause and see what the stadium will be like marked out in a soccer format

The timings is very unusual. 3pm on a Tuesday People will be in work, kids in school etc at that time. Surly they could of talked the players into having it on a weekend

They could have the All Ireland final as a warm up. Or maybe after the Pope

Hitman3000

Bonniedog wrote:

They could have the All Ireland final as a warm up. Or maybe after the Pope

You need to move on, that type of bitterness is unhealthy.

Bonniedog

A sense of humour and of the absurd is always healthy.

Some of us are not doffing our caps.

Hitman3000

Bonniedog wrote:

A sense of humour and of the absurd is always healthy.

There is no humour in your posts. There is thinly veiled character assassination against the organisers if the charity event and as I said an unhealthy amount of bitterness.

Bonniedog

All a matter of taste I suppose.

I think your and other's accusations of "character assassination" is what some might term micro aggression. If I believed in such nonsense,

Now, off to watch what promises to be interesting documentary about hurling.


I doubt you be interested ...

keeponhurling

Obviously the charity is a good cause and many people will want to support it.

But are people genuinely interested in the event itself ?
It's retired players playing a friendly game.

The likes of Keane or Giggs were great players 10 or 20 years ago, no question. But I'd have little interest in watching them now.

They'll do well to sellout 45000 tickets.

PTH2009

keeponhurling wrote: »

Obviously the charity is a good cause and many people will want to support it.

But are people genuinely interested in the event itself ?
It's retired players playing a friendly game.

The likes of Keane or Giggs were great players 10 or 20 years ago, no question. But I'd have little interest in watching them now.

They'll do well to sellout 45000 tickets.

Doubt it will sell out but a few people might buy tickets just to give money to the benefactors and not go to the event itself

In fairness it's an awkward time and won't suite everyone. A 3pm on a Tuesday at the end of September.

I grew up watching the great Man Utd team and players such as Duff and Robbie Keane and never seen them , it will be still nice to see them in person. Even if the games itself will be a balls it's all going to good cause and History is been made as it's the first non GAA sporting event taking place in a GAA outside of Croke Park

aidan24326

Clareman wrote: »

Why does there need to be a fund raiser for a professional soccer player? Unfortunately 36 year olds die all the time leaving family behind them, most aren't employed in 1 of the best paid jobs in the world by the biggest club in the world, why can't be the fund raiser be for a far larder audience than just 1 family and a hospice.

Can anyone tell me what exactly this IS raising funds for? I appreciate there's a charity element to it but media reports have consistently referenced it being 'for the Miller family'. As tragic as it is that a young man has died I doubt he left his wife and kids as paupers considering the job he had, and if this event is to raise money for a related charity that's great but I don't know why they keep suggesting it's to give his family a dig out? can anyone clarify what exactly is/was the motivation for this event and who is supposed to benefit?

FWIW I'm glad sense has prevailed and it will be held in PUC but the whole thing was badly handled by all sides. The GAA management have not covered themselves in glory but in fairness they were dragged into a situation that initially had nothing to do with them.

Bonniedog

Bonniedog wrote: »

I'm not attacking anyone's character. In fairness there has been fair bit of personal comment on both sides.

Bonniedog wrote: »

All a matter of taste I suppose.

I think your and other's accusations of "character assassination" is what some might term micro aggression. If I believed in such nonsense...

The post that was removed was a very serious and defamatory attack on those organising the event, to the point where both it and posts quoting it were removed.

You clearly want to have a go again.

It is attacking their character, it is not micro aggression (though why you rven be aggressive is beyond me).

You can discuss the issue without hinting that you know unsavoury stuff about people who have been named and are easily identifiable.

keeponhurling

I think the money is only for the Miller family. Well that's how it's reported in the papers anyways.

Indeed it would make you wonder if simply donating to cancer charities might benenfit more people.

Fr Tod Umptious

keeponhurling wrote: »

I think the money is only for the Miller family. Well that's how it's reported in the papers anyways.

Indeed it would make you wonder if simply donating to cancer charities might benenfit more people.

That is certainly not the case

This is an extract from the Irish Times from last week

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gaa-promise-to-consider-hosting-liam-miller-tribute-match-at-pairc-ui-chaoimh-1.3575450

Proceeds of the game and of a banquet at Cork City Hall hosted by the Lord Mayor of Cork, Cllr Mick Finn will go to Liam Miller’s widow, Clare and three children, Kory, Leo and Belle. Marymount Hospice in Cork, where Mr Miller died last February at the age of just 36 from oesophageal cancer, will also benefit.

Bridge93

The Sun and Mirror reported Marymount benefiting from it yesterday too

KrustyUCC

bobbyss wrote: »

Anyone know the times of the games themselves and how will they deal with the different pitch markings and goals posts for the two games?

Was listening to Michael O'Flynn on the radio this morning

Seems to the GAA element will involve small sided games between Eire Og boys and girls and some other team

Pitch will just be lined for the soccer match in that case

Bonniedog

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Was listening to Michael O'Flynn on the radio this morning

Seems to the GAA element will involve small sided games between Eire Og boys and girls and some other team

Pitch will just be lined for the soccer match in that case

Sweet.Science

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Was listening to Michael O'Flynn on the radio this morning

Seems to the GAA element will involve small sided games between Eire Og boys and girls and some other team

Pitch will just be lined for the soccer match in that case

Brilliant for the kids . Getting to play in PUC before such an event . Just shows you people shouldnt of threw their toys out of the pram about a GAA match being on before it before they knew what it was .

KrustyUCC

Eire Og games will be at half time

A good solution I think

People also threw the toys out of the pram about the GAA making money from the event but they are giving the stadium free of charge

GAA to make Páirc Uí Chaoimh available free of charge for Liam Miller match
Event will include a juvenile match in honour of former soccer player’s GAA background

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gaa-to-make-p%C3%A1irc-u%C3%AD-chaoimh-available-free-of-charge-for-liam-miller-match-1.3581217

munchkin_utd

from that irish times article , another mystery is solved

Mr O’Flynn said a 3pm weekday kickoff was not the ideal time for hosting the game, but hosting an evening banquet which will be attended by many of the former soccer stars meant it had to an afternoon kickoff. He hoped companies would be flexible in allowing staff to attend.

Bonniedog

munchkin_utd wrote: »

from that irish times article , another mystery is solved

munchkin_utd

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Eire Og games will be at half time

A good solution I think

People also threw the toys out of the pram about the GAA making money from the event but they are giving the stadium free of charge

GAA to make Páirc Uí Chaoimh available free of charge for Liam Miller match
Event will include a juvenile match in honour of former soccer player’s GAA background

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gaa-to-make-p%C3%A1irc-u%C3%AD-chaoimh-available-free-of-charge-for-liam-miller-match-1.3581217

very fitting that the Eire Og underage teams are part of it seeing as they're exactly the teams that Liam played with when he was still at home.

From the looks of it the idea of all star or other adult teams playing has been abandoned and the half time mini game is the GAA aspect of the day. Again, seems apt as theres no real connection between intercounty, or even adult, hurling or football to Liams playing days.

LeoB

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The thoughts of perhaps having to hand back 30 million of public money may have concentrated their minds.

That was never going to happen. Just shows how out of touch some people are. GAA facilities are used on a daily basis by all sorts of organisations. Facilities often mean hall, bar or gym not necessarily a pitch

Deleted User wrote: »

Did they change legal advisors?

Or did the legal advisor who told them just last week that it could not go ahead get it wrong?

Or was it just a bad excuse at the time to fob off the issue?

You dont understand how GAA works and it works pretty well. There was a process to be gone through and had they not they would have been wide open from within the GAA.

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Actually it was a question from a journalist that caused the sh*tstorm the GAA found themselves the centre of. Nice story though.

Clareman wrote: »

Very loaded question from the journalist, it was almost of if it was a setup question.

That was the feeling ok. I work in a place with 62 people. Good mix of sports but most are soccer heads and most felt the same. The whole thing was a set-up to get Croke park.. This was so badly handled by organisers. Had the correct channels been gone through this was always going to be facilitated. The fact the stadium is been handed over free of charge is a serious saving to the organisers as their is a minimum requirement of stewards and Gardái required.

The fact that there is a kids match at half time is great. Similar age to when Liam played GAA. However the begrudgers will want to find some way of stirring it up to make GAA look bad.

Good luck in replay Clareman.

Hitman3000

LeoB wrote:

That was the feeling ok. I work in a place with 62 people. Good mix of sports but most are soccer heads and most felt the same. The whole thing was a set-up to get Croke park.. This was so badly handled by organisers. Had the correct channels been gone through this was always going to be facilitated. The fact the stadium is been handed over free of charge is a serious saving to the organisers as their is a minimum requirement of stewards and Gardái required.

Serious bit of delusion going on in the above. Do you have a big collection of tin foil hats?

LeoB

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Serious bit of delusion going on in the above. Do you have a big collection of tin foil hats?

No delusion except for not wording it right. I should have had" to get at Croke park".

Is Tin foil hat the new buzz words?

FACT. The money was never going back. Dont let any delusioned gob****e tell you otherwise.
FACT The GAA went through a process as was forecast in the thread thread you were on and made a decision.
GAA people in other thread all supported the match and most forecast it would go ahead but took serious issue with posters and jibes about dinosaurs who have delivered more facilities for its members than ANY other sporting body in Ireland

The organisers fckd up big time, and a few credible journalists and broadcasters agreed when they got no change out of lashing the GAA. . I would believe there are few better than FAI to plant a few people to ask questions. They should never have went public with this.

You would be served by contributing something positive for the lads in FAI and they might get a ground of their own.

The important thing thing now is the game goes ahead and hopefully it will be a huge success.

Hitman3000

LeoB wrote:

Is Tin foil hat the new buzz words?

Not at all, reserved for conspiracy theorists for quite a long time now. Your comment fits the criteria.

LeoB

LeoB wrote: »

The whole thing was a set-up to get Croke park.. This was so badly handled by organisers. Had the correct channels been gone through this was always going to be facilitated.

More nonsense.

It was never going to be facilitated. Ever. The idea that everyone would have kept the head down and not raise the really obvious issue as tens of thousands strolled into PuC to watch a soccer match is fantasy stuff. It's a very lame effort to save face in what has been a pretty embarrassing episode in which the GAA had to be all but forced into a climb down. The "oh if only they'd asked nicely Frank would have allowed it" angle is laughable.

LeoB

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Not at all, reserved for conspiracy theorists for quite a long time now. Your comment fits the criteria.

Only criteria it fits is the general one of a set up. The FAI are well capable of doing that and messing it up like most things they do.

Deleted User wrote: »

More nonsense.

It was never going to be facilitated. Ever. The idea that everyone would have kept the head down and not raise the really obvious issue as tens of thousands strolled into PuC to watch a soccer match is fantasy stuff. It's a very lame effort to save face in what has been a pretty embarrassing episode in which the GAA had to be all but forced into a climb down. The "oh if only they'd asked nicely Frank would have allowed it" angle is laughable.

It was always going ahead. The GAA have nothing to save face about in my opinion. Again your lack of knowledge of how GAA works is entertaining. Frank can give an opinion but it was not his decision. And again the mistake made by organisers was not going through the right channels.

You need to sit back and take stock of how this all evolved and what GAA people said how it would evolve. They went through a process as was suggested by many posters and the game goes ahead.

You should really let this go now and enjoy the game. And then set in motion something to get better facilities for members and supporters of League of Ireland and Irish national team.

Time ti unfollow this thread people like you and your pal above are so negative and full of begrudgery it is pathetic looking back at your posts. Iv been banned too often to get dragged into any more petty spats.

Enjoy the match

Bonniedog

You have no interest in GAA other than to jump on this bandwagon.

LeoB

LeoB wrote: »

Time ti unfollow this thread people like you and your pal above are so negative and full of begrudgery it is pathetic looking back at your posts. Iv been banned too often to get dragged into any more petty spats.

Ha ha!

Maybe if you didn't get someone up and personal? The amusing thing is you spoke of letting to before launching into the above.

Read twowheelsonly's posts on the issue, how long ago the GAA were approached etc. And you will see just how wrong this "oh if only they had gone about it quietly" nonsense is.

Bonniedog wrote: »

People who have never to my knowledge ever once commented on GAA thread until this scam.

That is true, Brendan Bendar, FrToddUnctious and Niles Crane, who all came out fighting for the GAA, had never once posted on any GAA matter before. Some of them liked your posts that made personal attacks against the organisers. You didn't take issue with their news found interest in the GAA then.

Hitman3000

Bonniedog wrote:

Are you proud of Irish soccer playing games with British soldiers. People who did that when France was under occupation met a sorry end.

I never engage in whataboutery. If you wish be my guest.

blazard

well done GAA for making a decison that the majority of the public and GAA membership thought u shoud do