Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Spoilers from post 2076

Tony EH · 13-04-2019 12:30pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

I don't like it either but it depends how they do it. If they are using him to supplant Kylo as the main villain again it'll be annoying. But I suspect he's just cameoing as a force ghost on the Death Star to explain that Snoke was his apprentice once or something. A bit of fan service to help to tie up some of those questions JJ created in TFA. However, fans will go crazy with all sort of ridiculous theories involving clones and reincarnation that won't pan out, so whatever his role is it will end up being a disappointment.

Aye, you're probably correct.

RayCun · 13-04-2019 1:48pm

Tony EH wrote: »

I must be the only one that thinks bringing back Palpatine is a bad idea.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, first Abrams brings back a death star, now he brings back the emperor, and the title has it all about the Skywalkers, again.

Move on.

Inviere · 13-04-2019 2:09pm

RayCun wrote: »

and the title has it all about the Skywalkers, again.

Move on.

Is the whole 9 episode saga though not more or less about the Skywalker lineage? From Anakin in Episode 1, to whoever, in Episode 9.

RayCun · 13-04-2019 3:13pm

Inviere wrote: »

Is the whole 9 episode saga though not more or less about the Skywalker lineage? From Anakin in Episode 1, to whoever, in Episode 9.

Ren would be the last of them.

But when you hear that the Star Wars universe is so wide and interesting, and then you see the same things being repeated and the same characters returning...

The Last Jedi, whatever it's faults, imagined a wider universe, where people who weren't related to the Skywalkers were important, where it wasn't the same old battles being refaught.

Inviere · 13-04-2019 3:23pm

RayCun wrote: »

Ren would be the last of them.

Possibly, possibly not though. If it's Kylo the "Rise" is adhering to, then it suggests a shift from dark to light. This was on the cards since TFA, there was a very clear struggle within Kylo, which hasn't fully been resolved (despite his actions). I'm not sure I'd bet against a redemption story, not dissimilar to Vader/Anakin by the end of the film.

But when you hear that the Star Wars universe is so wide and interesting, and then you see the same things being repeated and the same characters returning...

Indeed, I must admit I found TFA a near-reboot of ANH. I gave it somewhat of a free pass though, considering it had to continue the saga, but also lean heavily on nostalgic elements too in order to 'right the wrongs' of the prequel trilogy (whether it worked or not is very divisive). TLJ, I absolutely loved. Every minute of the film had me engrossed. So for me, I've thoroughly enjoyed what Disney/JJ/Johnson have done with the saga for the final trilogy of the main saga. Im optimistic, that IX will also blow me away, I'd goosebumps from head to toe watching a damned two minute teaser

micks_address · 13-04-2019 4:26pm

Interesting to read that Abrams meet with Lucas before re rewiring the script..

http://collider.com/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-george-lucas-involvement/

Sad Professor · 13-04-2019 4:35pm

JJ on the challenges of this film:

“This movie had a very, very specific challenge, which was to take eight films and give an ending to three trilogies, and so we had to look at, what is the bigger story? We had conversations amongst ourselves, we met with George Lucas before writing the script,” Abrams revealed. “These were things that were in real, not debate, but looking at the vastness of the story and trying to figure out, what is the way to conclude this? But it has to work on its own as a movie, it has to be its own thing, it has to be surprising and funny and you have to understand it.”

This is dumb. It didn't need to be an ending to three trilogies, just this one. I don't trust JJ to end this trilogy, never mind the previous two, which already had endings. All I'm seeing here is: we doubled down on the nostalgia with this one.

Kirby · 13-04-2019 4:53pm

Disappointing box office take less than a billion

Inviere wrote: »

If Luke has learned this, could that be the reveal when he says “no one is ever truly gone?”

I think "No one is ever truly gone" is a middle finger to Rian's "Let the past die, kill it if you have to."

Rubber_Soul · 13-04-2019 5:05pm

micks_address wrote: »

Interesting to read that Abrams meet with Lucas before re rewiring the script..

http://collider.com/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-george-lucas-involvement/

He met with Lucas before Ep7 and Lucas said they ignored everything he suggested.

tigger123 · 13-04-2019 5:12pm

Really looking forward to this.

The idea that either Rey or Kylo are the Skywalker in the title feels a little obvious. I wonder will it end up referring to something else entirely.

Sad Professor · 13-04-2019 5:17pm

Kirby wrote: »

I think "No one is ever truly gone" is a middle finger to Rian's "Let the past die, kill it if you have to."

That was never the message of TLJ, that’s just what Kylo (the villain) says. A perspective which Rey rejects. “No one is ever really gone” is actually Rian’s dialogue. Luke says it to Leia in TLJ and it seems JJ liked it enough to reuse it in episode 9.

Wedwood · 13-04-2019 6:15pm

Just on Leia's piece, all of the original actors including Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher had their faces digitally scanned for future use while filming The Force Awakens.

These avatars will be used in future Star Wars movies, probably starting with this movie, given there's also rumours of Han Solo appearing.

J Mysterio · 13-04-2019 6:45pm

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

Have to say the new trailer is garbage.

The laugh at the end was just facepalm inducing.

And.. 'the Rise of Skywalker'? What the hell? Surely Skywalker is synonymous with Luke, and his rise was surely in the OT.

I dunno

J Mysterio · 13-04-2019 7:09pm

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

TomSweeney wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey68aMOV9gc

Really decent for a fan film

That was really good.

Inviere · 13-04-2019 7:24pm

J Mysterio wrote: »

The laugh at the end was just facepalm inducing.

A character that's been in six of the eight saga films thus far, in a saga that has shown force users live on after death. Is it really that hard to believe? Considering the very master of said character was said to have the ability to use the force to create life itself, well, anything's possible really.

And.. 'the Rise of Skywalker'? What the hell? Surely Skywalker is synonymous with Luke, and his rise was surely in the OT.

Synonymous yes, but not all encompassing. The whole saga is really about the Skywalker lineage, from the very beginning with Shmi Skywalker, to Anakin, to Luke & Leia, to Kylo (and beyond possibly). For me, "Rise" suggests a continuation of the family name in the form of good triumphing over evil, it still could be many possible things.

I do be genuinely surprised/amazed at just how many people are so quite off the mark to write an entire 2+ hour film off, based on 124 seconds of teaser footage. Not aimed at you J, but many of the comments thus far have appeared quite cynical over what's really very, very little known.

JuanBerrosa · 14-04-2019 12:38am

Sorry what's MCU ?

nix · 14-04-2019 12:59am

JuanBerrosa wrote: »

Sorry what's MCU ?

Marvel comics universe :pac:

J Mysterio · 14-04-2019 1:50am

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

Well, looks like Palpatine is definitely in this. Feels quite spoilery, like I know the whole plot already.

nix · 14-04-2019 3:37am

Here's hoping we see a force ghost light saber duel, that'd be cool and new...right?! :rolleyes:

It's sad to see the care they took with planning out and executing the MCU movies, and the best they can do here is beautiful sh!t movies :eek::(

NIMAN · 14-04-2019 7:36am

What did McDiarmid say in that clip, can't make it out?

Anyone else find it a bit cringe seeing adults roar and shout like that about a SW film? (I suppose they are likely Americans, they do that sort of thing).

AllForIt · 14-04-2019 7:58am

NIMAN wrote: »

What did McDiarmid say in that clip, can't make it out?

Anyone else find it a bit cringe seeing adults roar and shout like that about a SW film? (I suppose they are likely Americans, they do that sort of thing).

He said "Play it again" or something to that effect, in relation to the trailer, which they did.

Yes and yes it's an American thing.

Relikk · 14-04-2019 9:58am

NIMAN wrote: »

What did McDiarmid say in that clip, can't make it out?

Anyone else find it a bit cringe seeing adults roar and shout like that about a SW film? (I suppose they are likely Americans, they do that sort of thing).

"Roll it again."

Yeah it's extremely cringe. Lucasfilm logo... "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" :rolleyes:

Inviere · 14-04-2019 10:00am

Relikk wrote: »

Yeah it's extremely cringe. Lucasfilm logo... "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" :rolleyes:

Takes some doing to overtake E3 in the cringefest competition, this kinda does though

ThePott · 14-04-2019 12:07pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTLC_uiGFA

brianregan09 · 14-04-2019 1:22pm

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

Leave them off there happy , would you rather everyone in the world be miserable ?

Kirby · 15-04-2019 2:35am

Disappointing box office take less than a billion

brianregan09 wrote: »

Leave them off there happy , would you rather everyone in the world be miserable ?

Yes. People should feel the same apathy and disdain for things that I have. :P

Hector Savage · 15-04-2019 8:14am

J Mysterio wrote: »

Well, looks like Palpatine is definitely in this. Feels quite spoilery, like I know the whole plot already.

Jesus Christ, look I'm happy that the character is back in IX ... but grown adults acting like kids ??

WTAF .... It's true what they say, childhood is going on into the 30s nowadays.
humanity is ****ed, we need a galactic war...

NIMAN · 15-04-2019 8:28am

To be fair to those whooping and cheering, it is America after all (I assume this was in the US). Americans have form. I imagine that was a hall full of comic book guy characters from the Simpsons.

I myself was a massive SW nerd when I was younger and the initial films were out. Thing is, I'm a grown up adult now, and stopped acting the eejit decades ago.

tigger123 · 15-04-2019 9:14am

I love the idea of Palpatine playing a significant role in Episode IX. It may well be an excellent way to draw all 9 episodes together and solidify the entire series into one cohesive story.

That he was the real villain behind it all in the new films would be such a great development.

pixelburp · 15-04-2019 9:17am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Jesus Christ, look I'm happy that the character is back in IX ... but grown adults acting like kids ??

WTAF .... It's true what they say, childhood is going on into the 30s nowadays.
humanity is ****ed, we need a galactic war...

Americans, especially film & convention audiences, are not shy about vocalising their enthusiasm. They are the ones who'll applaud at the end of a film after all.

But at the same time, what's wrong with maintaining a little childish enthusiasm for a hobby or pastime anyway? Whooping like that isn't my bag, but I don't look down on any adult who has remembered how to enjoy the little things in the way we used to as children.

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Spoilers from post 2076