Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

Pelvis

mayo.mick wrote: »

I'm not too well up on the american justice system, what would a mistrial mean on the 10 counts, a retrial?

Doubt they'd bother seeing as he's found guilty on other 8 counts. Job done.

Water John

Proscetutors choice on retrial of the 10.

Thirty years jail X 8 = 240 years.
I'll take that.

Hurrache

Water John wrote: »

Proscetutors choice on retrial of the 10.

Thirty years jail X 8 = 240 years.
I'll take that.

He's another trial due in another state anyway, but they may go for a retrial to get a verdict on the campaign finance one?

Option for Trump to still pardon him though.

54and56

Water John wrote: »

Proscetutors choice on retrial of the 10.

Thirty years jail X 8 = 240 years.
I'll take that.

First 5 are max 3 years

6th is max 5 years

7th & 8th are max 30 years

Not 8 X 30 = 240.

Either way likely a long time in jail for a middle aged man who won't have the stomach for it. Motivates him to co-operate in any way he can

Slowly slowly catchy monkey

Hurrache

Now if this is true!
https://twitter.com/RyanRuggiero/status/1032005700992610306?s=19

oscarBravo

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

First 5 are max 3 years

6th is max 5 years

7th & 8th are max 30 years

Not 8 X 30 = 240.

Either way likely a long time in jail for a middle aged man who won't have the stomach for it. Motivates him to co-operate in any way he can

Slowly slowly catchy monkey

Meh, he'll just wait for the inevitable pardon.

Water John

69 years old. Rest of his life.

Hurrache

It's all tumbling in
https://twitter.com/aawayne/status/1032005377318170625?s=19

https://twitter.com/aawayne/status/1032005820396040192?s=19

https://twitter.com/aawayne/status/1032005920979656704?s=19

Also describes the 2 payments on behalf of the candidate!

Water John

Daniels and McDougal payments at the direction of the Campaign office.

Dohnjoe

Water John wrote: »

Proscetutors choice on retrial of the 10.

Thirty years jail X 8 = 240 years.
I'll take that.

Bank fraud is the 30, guilty on 2 of those

5 on tax fraud which is 3 to 5 years max on each (I believe)

one on hiding foreign bank accounts not sure what the time on that is

Edit apparently sentencing for first timer on all 18 is 14 years. 8 counts will be less. He could just get a few years for this

Call me Al

Pelvis wrote: »

Doubt they'd bother seeing as he's found guilty on other 8 counts. Job done.

He can be pardoned by Trump on all 8. Somehow I think Manafort won't be serving too much of those 240 years if prosecution is left with those findings only.
And Cohen just officially implicated trump publicly in his plea deal.
Eta his words're campaign finance violations were "in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump.
Trump is having a bad bad day..

Hurrache

Wow, what a mad hour or so!
https://twitter.com/PPVSRB/status/1032005898888245256?s=19

relax carry on

Hurrache wrote: »

Now if this is true!
https://twitter.com/RyanRuggiero/status/1032005700992610306?s=19

God I hope so. This is bigly! Covfefe to all.

Hande hoche!

Assume Trump will be cancelling his rally tonight?

Hurrache

Cohen seen by CNN legal expert as directly implicating Trump in a federal crime and as his conspirator.

An indictment is out of the picture but impeachment is on the table, with the federal crime possibly parked until after he leaves office.

Penn

And let's not forget, Manafort still has another trial next month.

This is amazing. Cohen and Manafort... and Trump is on his way to Virginia (I think) for a campaign rally.

For Forks Sake

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Assume Trump will be cancelling his rally tonight?

Please let it go ahead, it should be hilarious. Or he'll decide to nuke Mexico.

Ludo

Hurrache wrote: »

Cohen seen by CNN legal expert as directly implicating Trump in a federal crime and as his conspirator.

An indictment is out of the picture but impeachment is on the table, with the federal crime possibly parked until after he leaves office.

It's really not. Nothing will touch him until he hurts the Republican election results. Then and only then will they move to impeach him or force him to resign.

Hurrache

Republican guy on CNN still trying to peddle the fact we're only hearing one side of the story and it has nothing to do with Russia, and guffawed out of it.

Hurrache

Ludo wrote: »

It's really not. Nothing will touch him until he hurts the Republican election results. Then and only then will they move to impeach him or force him to resign.

But it's on the table as an alternative to indictment.

chalkitdown1

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Please let it go ahead, it should be hilarious.

He's going to have a bigger meltdown than usual on live TV and it'll be amazing. He'll probably implicate himself in numerous things and contradict previous statements while he's at it.

Water John

Of course Trump is going to Virginia. Anything to get out of the house.

batgoat

Hurrache wrote: »

But it's on the table as an alternative to indictment.

True but you need both houses to favour impeachment. They won't until post mid terms realistically.

Kermit.de.frog

Manafort looking at an 80 year sentence.

PropJoe10

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

He's going to have a bigger meltdown than usual on live TV and it'll be amazing. He'll probably implicate himself in numerous things and contradict previous statements while he's at it.

It'd nearly be worth staying up for, to see what he comes out with. Today has been unreal so far! So much coming out in a short space of time. Also looking forward to hearing Giuliani's take on this!

Pelvis

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Manafort looking at an 80 year sentence.

No he's not, he'll get less than 10 according to sentencing guidelines.

VonZan

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Manafort looking at an 80 year sentence.

Not a chance he'll get 80 years for bank fraud. Anyone following this knows that Sept 17th is when the real trial starts.

Manafort won't see the inside of a prison beyond Trumps initial term. He'll get a pardon for keeping his mouth shut.

derb12

This is unreal! Finally some good news. I’m glued to cnn all evening and for once my kids aren’t complaining. I might stay up and stream trumps stupid rally on Fox News too.

Thepoet85

What time here will he be on tv?

Hurrache

Anyone know how Fox are spinning this on air?