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How hard is it to get the rolex you want

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  • I spoke to both Irish ADs today and am expecting updated information on Tuesday and Wednesday. One dealer did ask if I would be interested in future purchases as I would have priority and specifically mentioned the 50th anniversary day date.




  • Was there not a green faced day date 60th anniversary a few years back or am I mixing models?




  • Apologies, meant to say 60th anniversary as opposed to 50th




  • DPG wrote: »
    Apologies, meant to say 60th anniversary as opposed to 50th

    I have to say unless you really really love Rolex there are better ways to spend 100 odd grand. It’s a 10k watch with a platinum case instead of steel and some diamonds.

    Would a complicated Patek not interest you at all?




  • Cyrus wrote: »
    I have to say unless you really really love Rolex there are better ways to spend 100 odd grand. It’s a 10k watch with a platinum case instead of steel and some diamonds.

    Would a complicated Patek not interest you at all?

    Have to agree, obviously you want a baller and FU watch but for that money you could get a minute repeater Lange, a double balance rose gold AP, A complex Patek, A FP Journe, Perpetual Chrono Lange, Or the Patek Hometime Nautilus. All high horology brands, all far more cred than a Rolex. The Daytona is not worthy to touch the hem of these watches garments, and I own a precious metal Daytona saying that (pathetic gold not platinum).

    Any of these boys

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  • Fitz II wrote: »
    Have to agree, obviously you want a baller and FU watch but for that money you could get a minute repeater Lange, a double balance rose gold AP, A complex Patek, A FP Journe, Perpetual Chrono Lange, Or the Patek Hometime Nautilus. All high horology brands, all far more cred than a Rolex. The Daytona is not worthy to touch the hem of these watches garments, and I own a precious metal Daytona saying that (pathetic gold not platinum).

    Any of these boys

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    That nautilus home time ...... nice




  • Oh those Lange, especially the minute repeater. *drool*

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.





  • I love how Patek movements look like proper old style with the separate bridges. Apparently much harder for machine assembly to do, so you don't see it nearly so often these days. Lange tend to go three quarter plate which is again "old style" and not so easy for mechanising things.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • unkel wrote: »
    That is just stunning.

    Watch taste is stupidly difficult to understand. I love most Patek's, Rolex's, AP's, ALS' but for whatever reason that new 5236P just doesn't have the same affect on me as their previous watches and I can't quite put my finger on it.


    Now that being said, if I had one or even got to see one in the metal, I'd probably change my mind quicker than Usain Bolt :pac:




  • Funny you mention that, I'm the same, have never worn one. But so far the looks of the likes of the Aquanaut and Nautilus leave me cold. But that 5236P is gorgeous on so many levels to me. Stunning blue colour, the right size (41mm) the insane beauty of the complications presented in such a simple way. I would love to try it on. But best not, that would ruin me financially :p




  • Watch taste is stupidly difficult to understand. I love most Patek's, Rolex's, AP's, ALS' but for whatever reason that new 5236P just doesn't have the same affect on me as their previous watches and I can't quite put my finger on it.

    It's got a uni-brow. Having said that, I don't like any watch with day or month that isn't a simple pointer (maybe with the sole exception of the DayDate). Yet, I almost never have issues with date windows!




  • The 5236P is lovely, but the more I look at it the more the calander annoys me. Its too close together, and the O looks like a 0 giving some weird MON01Jan on the dial. Reminds me of the layout of a SKX. The leap year indicator is a bit pointless, must be a more discreet way of displaying that or have it on the caseback, having a 1,2,3 on the dial for a year is a bit stupid, doesnt tell you the actual year. And the day night is better done on the 5205 with a 24 hour dial and large seconds. I find small seconds unreadable and you always need extra time to check the watch is running. From 10:30 to 2:30 the date is often going to be heavily obscured. With the Platinium microrotor could use some more contrast on the movement, maybe some blued screws or some gold leaf relief on the patek symbol on the rotor.

    Hard to tell about the case shape, but it certainly is less visually interesting than the usual perpetual. All in all I am giving this one a 8/10. At these prices, and given that Patek are the masters of Clean complexity I think there are some usability issues done for the sake of making it look clean at 10:30 stopped on any day without a zero in it.




  • How hard is it get a regular yachtmaster 40 from an AD? Ref 126622

    They surely aren't as in demand as the cheaper SS ones (sub, explorer, OP etc) or the more popular ones like a Daytona. Would I get laughed out of it or would you get one after a few months ? I've no AD history and am not willing to give any sexual favours.




  • redlead wrote: »
    I've no AD history and am not willing to give any sexual favours.

    Oh well, I'd say your chances are pretty slim then.




  • Oh well, I'd say your chances are pretty slim then.

    Based on the former or the latter fact :p




  • redlead wrote: »
    How hard is it get a regular yachtmaster 40 from an AD? Ref 126622

    They surely aren't as in demand as the cheaper SS ones (sub, explorer, OP etc) or the more popular ones like a Daytona. Would I get laughed out of it or would you get one after a few months ? I've no AD history and am not willing to give any sexual favours.

    If its stainless its hard to get. The YM is not the most in demand model, but nonee are just sitting around. All you can do is ask, your not asking for a daytona so I would say its a reasonable request.......its all such bull****, hop on chrono pay 1k-500 over retail and its in the post to you tomorrow, save your time and dignity.




  • Hi all, by way of an update the Daytona purchase never went ahead but I have been offered a number of Rolex pieces by various ADs but they just weren’t for me. There is definitely supply available just not for the ultra in demand models.

    One thing I was shocked to see was just how large the price difference is between models in the UK and Ireland. I am currently being offered the same piece by a Northern and Souther Ireland AD. It is coming in at €48,000 in the south and £35,000 / €40,600 in the north. I was always under the Impression the prices were standardised worldwide by Rolex with variations due to FX only but does not seem to be the case.





  • What have you been offered?



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  • at the moment most stuff is a little cheaper here, what model is it, the rrp is generally on the rolex site.





  • Currently being offered a rose Sky Dweller 326935 with Rhodium dial. RRP for these is listed as POA but it’s €47,700 and £35,000 up north





  • Well that watch on oyster flex is

    £33,200 ( €39k)

    https://www.watches-of-switzerland.co.uk/Rolex-Sky+Dweller-M326235+0005/p/17304596

    v

    €40k


    So it would appear one of those prices is wrong, im guessing the UK price as 1,800 seems an unlikely premium for a solid gold bracelet.

    Are you sure they arent quoting an ex vat price?





  • Be careful with those pieces, I have several friends offered very expensive solid gold daytonas and sky dwellers, these pieces sell from dealers only a little over retail, so the buy price would be under retail, even on new unworn watches. If you really want the watch thats fine, the cheapest way is off and AD but if you are going to flip you will loose some money. Also a watch like that is a hard sell, dealers want 4 stainless rather than one PM piece, much easier shift the cheaper watches. Often dealers just refuse these pieces (hence the AD offering them out the front door rather than the back). Dont get slipped a dog, the heat is totally out of the skydweller market.





  • Thanks for that. Im waiting on a call from the Northern dealer to confirm as I just checked the GBP vs Euro price of a rose gold Daytona and its €1500 so something is definitely not correct.





  • Just re-read the most of this thread. Interesting reading!





  • This piece of man maths served me well at least. A rare right move!





  • I must say that maybe I don't know how to appreciate high-end watches or maybe I overlook the material and technical aspects.

    But none of those would interest me in the slightest. Half of them - now I'm sure they look impressive in the flesh with quality manufacturing, precision and materials and awesome mechanical engineering - but half of those look like unaesthetic bling and the rest looks over engineered and barely functional. Aa in easy to read the time off.

    Wouldnt have any of them if the were a €1,000. There isn't as single tasteful, aesthetically pleasing watch in that list - in my opinion.

    Post edited by CalamariFritti on




  • begs the obvious question then :)


    what would your 100k fantasy budget go on?



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  • I understand my comment might smell of envy. And while I wouldnt call it envy, yes, I would like to be in a situation where I can drop 100k on a watch. Sadly I'm not or anywhere near. and most likely never will be.

    But besides that those watches really wouldnt do it for me at all.

    So what would be my 'grail watch' if I had 100k, unlimited funds basically? The answer is I dont know. Sadly I dont really have a target atm. Terrible position to be in, I know. Currently I'm looking for inspiration. On reddit r/watches and the likes.

    So my ideal watch doesnt exist atm but I'm after falling in love with Nomos to some degree. I like clear lines and form follows function and not very busy dials.

    If there was a 39mm hybrid between Tangente Neomatik update and Tangente Sport with a font closer to Club Neomatik (as in not as slim but no Roman numbers) on a plain sailcloth strap with a clasp... With a midnight blue or grey or maybe ruthenium dial.

    That would be fairly close. I'm a man of simple tastes and limited funds.

    P.S. I woke up early and couldnt sleep again and was just browsing... and thought I was fairly safe not stepping on any owners toes criticising those. Sorry if I offended any owners. Its all so subjective anyway.



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