Dating Foreigners

shakeitoff

shakeitoff wrote: »

That is weird. You never see a young south dublin girl with some brazilian or spanish lad(it does happen but rarely) but you'll always see some young wan with a black or arab guy. Probably to do with social status.

More to do with jealousy from the Muslim guys. It's the same with Indian guys. There's more cultural stigma against a muslim/hindi woman dating a western guy, than a muslim/hindi guy dating a western woman. Kazak men have a certain reputation of being very possessive (in a dangerous way) of their women when it comes to western guys dating them, whereas you'll often see Kazak guys dating western women.

I've dated both a Indian woman, and a Kazak woman, and both times received violent threats from the males.

kravmaga

I have not dated an Irishwoman since 2007, last 2 gf's were Polish and my current is from Czech Republic. She is fantastic and has a great sense of humour, very thoughtful and caring and a great communicator and very loving.

I think Irishwoman are too bossy and controlling and never happy, always complaining and moaning. All my mates who are married to Irishwoman are miserable and in unhappy marriages.

Im a well travelled lad and will always go with the foreign option as compared to local opotion here in Dublin

iamwhoiam

kravmaga wrote: »

I have not dated an Irishwoman since 2007, last 2 gf's were Polish and my current is from Czech Republic. She is fantastic and has a great sense of humour, very thoughtful and caring and a great communicator and very loving.

I think Irishwoman are too bossy and controlling and never happy, always complaining and moaning. All my mates who are married to Irishwoman are miserable and in unhappy marriages.

Im a well travelled lad and will always go with the foreign option as compared to local opotion here in Dublin

You sound charming , judging a all women in a country negatively . Maybe all your mates are bad husbands .

kravmaga

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You sound charming , judging a all women in a country negatively . Maybe all your mates are bad husbands .

Negative nellie type lol:D

Read my post again and less of the drama queen comments.

Where did I judge all the women of the country??? :eek:

Pelvis

kravmaga wrote: »

Where did I judge all the women of the country??? :eek:

When you said Irish women are too bossy, controlling, always moaning and never happy perhaps??

iamwhoiam

kravmaga wrote: »

Negative nellie type lol:D

Read my post again and less of the drama queen comments.

Where did I judge all the women of the country??? :eek:

Where you said " I think Irishwomen are bossy and controlling "

wexie

Pelvis wrote: »

When you said Irish women are too bossy, controlling, always moaning and never happy perhaps??

yeah but he actually meant : Irish women are very assertive and have high standards

Atoms for Peace

relax carry on wrote: »

Curious as to what you mean by this? Ruin the family line?

Habsburg jaw.

kravmaga

Pelvis wrote: »

When you said Irish women are too bossy, controlling, always moaning and never happy perhaps??

Thats my personal experience of dating Irishwomen, where did I say every mna in Ireland is like that, cool the jets and smoke a J dude :rolleyes:

Roger Hassenforder

kravmaga wrote: »

All my mates who are married to Irishwoman are miserable and in unhappy marriages.

"All"?

Billy86

wexie wrote: »

I don't know if that's so much a cultural thing as a personal thing. Perhaps in Asian women but I've certainly known plenty of foreign ladettes.

Canadian, American, Swedish, Finnish, French, Spanish, Dutch, German, to name a few.

That's true, though a difference I've noticed is that many Irish women when they are interested in a guy for whatever reason don't seem to feel at all comfortable approaching them, I've often heard female friends describe it like it was some big social faux pas. With the countries you have listed a good few (certainly German, Canadian and American, also Swedes, Spanish and Dutch from people I know who live/have lived there... also Aussies), the women may not be as direct as guys but if they're interested in you they will up come to you to make conversation.

RacoonQueen

theyoungchap wrote: »

I find foreign women appreciate Irish men more than our own......especially in countries where (unlike here) they are 2nd class citizens. But overall I am getting the popcorn for the rest of this thread as I know it'll get good.

TBH you're probably got the closest reason for it...it if is the case at all. Some nationalities/cultures have different attitudes towards women, so foreign women prefer how they are treated by Irish men. Similarly, Irish women wouldn't like the way some cultures treat/think about women.

I dated a foreigner, then he moved home. Tried the long distance thing but neither of us had any intention of relocating permanently, so....

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Simple answer is girls not from Ireland generally, take pride in their apperance, are not stuck up and are up for a laugh

What does taking pride in your appearance involve? Being skinny? Wearing makeup? Or what?

How Soon Is Now

wexie wrote: »

yeah but he actually meant : Irish women are very assertive and have high standards

There's the thing a lot of the men in these Eastern European countries are incredibly backwards and have less respect for women. It's clear from talking to them and the attitudes they have towards Irish women especially.

So no wonder the Eastern European women seem so perfect to Irish men! Most of them are told what to do at home and told look good look after the kids etc etc. They get with an Irish man and it's like Christmas.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

I have one friend who's been through a few foreign boyfriends, one married to an Indian guy, one married to an Italian and one gay friend who is very much all about his Latino men but yeah overall probably would have come across slightly more couples that are the other way around

Irish men who don't or haven't gone out with Irish women sure as hell TALK about it a fcukload more though. Plenty Irish women going out with foreign lads but IME they just get on with it rather than use it as a stick to beat poor auld Irish men with.

All my partners have been Irish but I have a thing for black guys as do many many many white women. You'd rarely hear white men saying the same, not surprising it's the way the couples usually work out.

SilverPenney

Jorah wrote: »

Same thing in England you almost never see a white man with a black girlfriend.

9/10 times mixed race people have a black father and a white mother.

You can see this on Love Island UK where there are white girls with black/mixed race men yet the black/non white women rarely get a look in from the white guys.

I have my own theory as to why this is. You see a similar thing with East Asians. Whenever you get a half asian half white person in America the Father will usually be White and the mother Asian.

That program is oddly an education on attraction. The black girl cannot for love nor money get a fella after her while everyone swoons after the masculine black fellas.


When I worked in London a few years ago I actually had a fling with a woman of Carribean background. Despite having feelings for one another, we were both agreed that we wouldn't settle together as we both wanted children of our own races (yes, people of all backgrounds have that basic urge). Today I'm in a long term relationship with a German and her with a black Englishman (we still keep in touch).

Billy86

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

FYP :pac:

Jump over to youtube and check out a few rap videos, it's not necessarily the visas they're after.

kravmaga

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

"All"?

Yes indeed

pauliebdub

Ive noticed it with my own circle a few irish lads are with foreign girls, no Irish girls i know of are with foreign lads. Maybe irish girls arent all that atractive.

_Dara_

pauliebdub wrote: »

Ive noticed it with my own circle a few irish lads are with foreign girls, no Irish girls i know of are with foreign lads. Maybe irish girls arent all that atractive.

Here we go.

Lads, very few of ye look like Michael Fassbender. And he’s half-German!

kravmaga

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Where you said " I think Irishwomen are bossy and controlling "

Chill out , thats my opinion and I have given it, we obviously disagree, no biggie

Billy86

pauliebdub wrote: »

Ive noticed it with my own circle a few irish lads are with foreign girls, no Irish girls i know of are with foreign lads. Maybe irish girls arent all that atractive.

Actually having lived out of the country for most of this decade, maybe it's just my mind playing tricks on me, but Irish women look far more attractive than even ten years ago. There seems to be a rise in gym culture and I've a bit of a preference for athletic women so it might be that, but something seems to have changed over the last decade or so.

Who knows, same thing might be true to some extent for the lads too.

kravmaga

pauliebdub wrote: »

Ive noticed it with my own circle a few irish lads are with foreign girls, no Irish girls i know of are with foreign lads. Maybe irish girls arent all that atractive.

Now your sucking diesel lad,

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

_Dara_ wrote: »

Here we go.

Lads, very few of ye look like Michael Fassbender. And he’s half-German!

Some obscure occult pact formed in the early mists of boards.ie infancy means that demons will consume the site unless they're given their biannual thread of "I'm not saying anything offensive or making stupid generalisations, it's just that Irish women are fat, ugly, hard work and stuck up and I don't like them. What are ye pissed off about?? See what I mean, stuck up", I wouldn't worry about it.

LirW

Ensley Gorgeous Turbine wrote: »

All my partners have been Irish but I have a thing for black guys as do many many many white women. You'd rarely hear white men saying the same, not surprising it's the way the couples usually work out.

I've been to a beautician a while ago and she kept talking about her kids, that turned out to be half Romanian, half African American. She's shown pictures of them, beautiful children
Then she showed a picture of her husband who was a really good looking black man. Some people, be it white, black or middle-eastern are just really attractive. Attractive people will always find a partner and often pair up with other attractive people. So I'm not too surprised about that, I never thought about the whole "dating another race" thing, I always saw it as being attracted to a person that has traits that I love and value.
Never in my life I intended to be with an Irish man but that's what happened and I'm delighted about it. It wouldn't matter if he was Austrian, Dutch, Irish, Aussie or African.

kravmaga

wexie wrote: »

yeah but he actually meant : Irish women are very assertive and have high standards

eh no I didnt

Ensley Gorgeous Turbine

Ensley Gorgeous Turbine wrote: »

Some obscure occult pact formed in the early mists of boards.ie infancy means that demons will consume the site unless they're given their biannual thread of "I'm not saying anything offensive or making stupid generalisations, it's just that Irish women are fat, ugly, hard work and stuck up and I don't like them. What are ye pissed off about?? See what I mean, stuck up", I wouldn't worry about it.

It's not as if the Irish guys are suggesting that they're gods' gift to women. But I guess you can't have a personal opinion that's critical about Irish women, and their attractiveness.

corner of hells

LirW wrote: »

I've been to a beautician a while ago and she kept talking about her kids, that turned out to be half Romanian, half African American. She's shown pictures of them, beautiful children
Then she showed a picture of her husband who was a really good looking black man. Some people, be it white, black or middle-eastern are just really attractive. Attractive people will always find a partner and often pair up with other attractive people. So I'm not too surprised about that, I never thought about the whole "dating another race" thing, I always saw it as being attracted to a person that has traits that I love and value.
Never in my life I intended to be with an Irish man but that's what happened and I'm delighted about it. It wouldn't matter if he was Austrian, Dutch, Irish, Aussie or African.

I'm married to an Irish girl of Eastern European Jewish descent , I think she's beautiful unfortunately completely mad , I myself wouldn't get a kick in a stampede.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not as if the Irish guys are suggesting that they're gods' gift to women. But I guess you can't have a personal opinion that's critical about Irish women, and their attractiveness.

Who's telling you you can't have a personal opinion?

YFlyer

One of the lads I know from school is married to a Brazilian girl. He regularly puts up Jesus Christ stuff on his Facebook page. He is no more a Christian than Richard Dawkins.

The Crowman

YFlyer wrote: »

One of the lads I know from school is married to a Brazilian girl. He regularly puts up Jesus Christ stuff on his Facebook page. He is no more a Christian than Richard Dawkins.

lot of Brazilians are big Jesus freaks, Mormons and Baptist churches have done massive recruiting there in recent times. Some right whackjob cults as well

iamwhoiam

kravmaga wrote: »

Chill out , thats my opinion and I have given it, we obviously disagree, no biggie

And chill out too , its my opinion that you were judgmental about Irish women and I gave it

YFlyer

The Crowman wrote: »

lot of Brazilians are big Jesus freaks, Mormons and Baptist churches have done massive recruiting there in recent times. Some right whackjob cults as well

Yeah the Moonie church bought alot of land in Brazil for their Garden of Eden.

iamwhoiam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not as if the Irish guys are suggesting that they're gods' gift to women. But I guess you can't have a personal opinion that's critical about Irish women, and their attractiveness.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion just as others are entitled not to like it

iamwhoiam

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Of course you are entitled to your opinion just as others are entitled not to like it

Fair enough.

Das Reich

The Crowman wrote: »

lot of Brazilians are big Jesus freaks, Mormons and Baptist churches have done massive recruiting there in recent times. Some right whackjob cults as well

This was during the 80s and 90s since then many people even returned to catholic church that is still strong in poorer states.

Ipso

The Crowman wrote: »

lot of Brazilians are big Jesus freaks, Mormons and Baptist churches have done massive recruiting there in recent times. Some right whackjob cults as well

Well they do have a big Jesus statue in Rio.

Das Reich

Ensley Gorgeous Turbine wrote: »

All my partners have been Irish but I have a thing for black guys as do many many many white women.

What thing?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Das Reich wrote: »

What thing?

Me box.

Roger Hassenforder

Ensley Gorgeous Turbine wrote: »

Me box.

There's nothing like a classy lady!

Assetbacked

In Ireland I understand why Irish guys would tend to go for foreign girls over irish girls; the foreign girls seem more exotic and because they have taken a step of moving to another country they are most likely open and possibly looking for companionship.

Irish girls living in Ireland seem more likely to focus on the looks and/or status (job, plays GAA/rugby etc) of Irish guys who live in Ireland.

A big problem with Irish people in general is their delayed passage into adulthood; whether that be from living at home with mommy and daddy into their 20s or hanging out with the same school or college friends. With girls this manifests itself as being more concerned about a guy on paper than his actual personality as there are people around them they feel will judge them.

somefeen

I never seem to get along well with Irish women. Even on nights out I find them a lot harder to get along with.
Never had sex with an Irish girl, didn't lose my virginity in this country and was actually 27 before I ever had sex on Irish soil ( with my Scottish gf)

I can only conclude that Irish women are weird.

Outlaw Pete

I'd love to date a Foreigner. Always wanted to know what love is.

uck51js9zml2yt

Married a foreigner. Leaves the Irish in the ha'penny place!

Debtocracy

In general you see more Irish men with foreign women than vice versa as foreigners on average tend to be of lower socioeconomic status and women don’t tend to date downwards.

I lived close to a town once with a large multicultural population and it was interesting to see the dynamics. There tended to be lots of dating between Irish men and women from South American, Spanish or Asian cultures. Black women tended to stay within their own culture. There was very little dating between Irish women and foreign men, and where it did happen it tended to be Irish women who struggled to get an Irish boyfriend (and they had kids and the foreign guy got an Irish passport).

There’s plenty of evidence from online dating also to show that white women are quite ‘racist’ towards black and Asian men in their preferences. With Asian men it’s probably an issue about not being masculine enough and many women have height criteria. With black men there’s an implicit perception that they’re of lower socioeconomic status. It’s interesting as some women will talk about fantasies about getting with a black guy, yet I don’t know a single Irish woman in a relationship with a black guy.

I think it's great to have an increasing number of foreign women in Ireland as it helps to break the cartel of stuck-up Irish women. Irish women may be forced to be nice to Irish guys in an effort to compete with foreign women.

triple nipple

SilverPenney wrote:

When I worked in London a few years ago I actually had a fling with a woman of Carribean background. Despite having feelings for one another, we were both agreed that we wouldn't settle together as we both wanted children of our own races (yes, people of all backgrounds have that basic urge)

Wow. That is the most horrible thing I've ever heard!

Don't think I've ever heard of someone think that way before wtf?

Gbear

Apparently people with more genetic diversity tend to be rated more attractive.
That's why Brazilians are all bangers.

Our grandkids will all be rides.

Except mine. Too ugly to spawn any. :pac:

As far as attractive peoples go, if you get more sun and tend to be less fat, you'll probably be generally more attractive as a population.

On the other hand, Mediterraneans are all knee-high to a grasshopper. Swings and roundabouts.

ArchXStanton

Debtocracy wrote: »

In general you see more Irish men with foreign women than vice versa as foreigners on average tend to be of lower socioeconomic status and women don’t tend to date downwards.

I lived close to a town once with a large multicultural population and it was interesting to see the dynamics. There tended to be lots of dating between Irish men and women from South American, Spanish or Asian cultures. Black women tended to stay within their own culture. There was very little dating between Irish women and foreign men, and where it did happen it tended to be Irish women who struggled to get an Irish boyfriend (and they had kids and the foreign guy got an Irish passport).

There’s plenty of evidence from online dating also to show that white women are quite ‘racist’ towards black and Asian men in their preferences. With Asian men it’s probably an issue about not being masculine enough and many women have height criteria. With black men there’s an implicit perception that they’re of lower socioeconomic status. It’s interesting as some women will talk about fantasies about getting with a black guy, yet I don’t know a single Irish woman in a relationship with a black guy.

I think it's great to have an increasing number of foreign women in Ireland as it helps to break the cartel of stuck-up Irish women. Irish women may be forced to be nice to Irish guys in an effort to compete with foreign women.

Not going to happen,you would think after years of countless threads and posts that follow the same line that they might actually sit down and say ya know what maybe something is wrong...nahh

Wibbs

More from luck than judgement I've gone out with more non Irish women than Irish and it would be my take that there's an awful lot of selective thinking and stereotypes running in this thread. Personally speaking I've not seen much in the way of actual practical, cultural or personality differences going on. At least in "western" societies. Sure, if you're going out with a woman from a Papuan hill tribe that gulf is larger, but going out with a French women? Even if you were going out with a Papuan lass, in the end people are people. Most cultural stuff is on the surface IMHO.

Why did I generally prefer "foreign" women? I like contrast. My idea of a minor purgatory is someone from the same background and life experience as me. A preference that's not exactly normal either BTW. Most tend to prefer the familiar and that shared thing going on and all sorts of studies reflect that. And it makes sense.

As for this notion that "Irish women aren't easygoing", I call bollocks on that. They're as easygoing or not as anyone from anywhere. It's down to the individual. The most high maintenance women I've gone out with weren't Irish. And I suspect for many men the exotic factor™ can blind them to that if it's present. Just like men in general will take more crap and bad behaviour from a woman they think "is out of their league". If anything I would say Irish women are generally easier going.

Where there can be a difference is in the traditional gender roles, where some cultures are more traditional. And yep you're more likely to find that in women from some other cultures. The corollary to that is of course that you better be the "traditional man" and all that entails or they'll likely go off you soon enough. I've seen that up close myself and with mates who actually married women with that background.

As for looks. They're subjective and again the exotic can be in play in a big way. EG A percentage of guys are into the Asian ladies, or African and fair enough. Both leave me completely cold TBH. That includes the accepted beautiful folks. I can see they are indeed beautiful, but don't flick my switch into "wow" territory(though more African women would). My preference is for European women.

Assetbacked wrote: »

In Ireland I understand why Irish guys would tend to go for foreign girls over irish girls; the foreign girls seem more exotic and because they have taken a step of moving to another country they are most likely open and possibly looking for companionship.

Whatever about companionship, I would agree that someone, anyone who chooses to take that step and live outside their culture and country is generally speaking a slightly different breed than those who stay put.

A big problem with Irish people in general is their delayed passage into adulthood;

Hardly confined to Ireland. Latin men in particular rarely enough leave the mammy's apron strings and then only swap one "mammy" for another.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I'd love to date a Foreigner. Always wanted to know what love is.

I see what you did there.

_Dara_

Debtocracy wrote: »

In general you see more Irish men with foreign women than vice versa as foreigners on average tend to be of lower socioeconomic status and women don’t tend to date downwards.

I lived close to a town once with a large multicultural population and it was interesting to see the dynamics. There tended to be lots of dating between Irish men and women from South American, Spanish or Asian cultures. Black women tended to stay within their own culture. There was very little dating between Irish women and foreign men, and where it did happen it tended to be Irish women who struggled to get an Irish boyfriend (and they had kids and the foreign guy got an Irish passport).

There’s plenty of evidence from online dating also to show that white women are quite ‘racist’ towards black and Asian men in their preferences. With Asian men it’s probably an issue about not being masculine enough and many women have height criteria. With black men there’s an implicit perception that they’re of lower socioeconomic status. It’s interesting as some women will talk about fantasies about getting with a black guy, yet I don’t know a single Irish woman in a relationship with a black guy.

I think it's great to have an increasing number of foreign women in Ireland as it helps to break the cartel of stuck-up Irish women. Irish women may be forced to be nice to Irish guys in an effort to compete with foreign women.

The Irish-Irish relationships that work well (and there are many) tend to work along the lines of mutual respect. Nobody thinks outside their own relationship and why would they?

My husband’s most high maintenance ex by a country mile was Slovakian, incidentally.

Again, I remain fascinated by the use of the word ‘date’ in these types of threads. The term hasn’t really entered the lexicon generally but threads on ‘foreign v Irish wimminz’ tend to be lousy with it.

Star Bingo

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I'd love to date a Foreigner. Always wanted to know what love is.

Don’t mind a little bit of Foreigner but I always hated the Journey