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So Michael D IS running again!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,159 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ni Riada won't help Brexit discussions while she goes around singing, Our Four Green Fields, for the next month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Squatter wrote: »
    promptly refused to take questions from the media gathered for her campaign launch

    Anti-vax issue was raised, questions not answered, spokesperson later referred to her earlier statement saying she supports HPV vaccinations.

    RTE head pointed out that the statement did not state that her daughter ever got the vaccine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Meanwhile, Michael D's personal Twitter a/c has reactivated after seven years:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelDHiggins


  • Registered Users Posts: 67,121 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/ras-hopeful-liadh-n-riada-is-unsuitable-to-represent-the-country-says-son-of-ira-victim-37322848.html


    Austin Stack weighs in on the merits of the Sinn Fein candidate.

    He makes some interesting points about the ability to be commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

    Unlike Mary Robinson and Mary McAleese who were able to reach out to Unionism, Ms. Ni Riadh will have difficulties in that sphere.

    Other than saying he doesn't think she should or can be Commander In Chief what 'interesting points' did he make about it?

    Yeh, Mary McAleese was great at the outreach. :rolleyes:

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mcaleese-rouses-unionist-wrath-by-comparing-them-to-the-nazis-26006246.html

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dup-rage-at-mcaleeses-visit-insult-wzqm6tscck7


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,740 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Anti-vax issue was raised, questions not answered, spokesperson later referred to her earlier statement saying she supports HPV vaccinations.

    RTE head pointed out that the statement did not state that her daughter ever got the vaccine.


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Kevin Sharkey bows out, uses the opportunity for a spot of shameless self promotion and lends his support, such as it is, to O'Doherty

    https://twitter.com/votesharkey2018/status/1041387542690586624?s=19

    We'll never forget you, Kieran Sharkey!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    VinLieger wrote: »
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Well, yes, but it does show that this issue is not going away. She will, as we said here in this thread, be dogged by these questions until she answers them definitively.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Squatter wrote: »
    I only needed to read as far as the second sentence of that report.

    "Ireland South MEP Liadh Ní Riada was yesterday unveiled as Sinn Féin's candidate - and promptly refused to take questions from the media gathered for her campaign launch." to know that voting for her would be a complete waste of time.

    Although she has known for months that she was a shoo-in for the SF nomination, she still wasn't able to take questions, no doubt gagged by her SF handlers in case she put her foot in it! (Like Marty Mac did when he attacked "West Brits" in the early stages of his campaign!)
    Surprising that the army council hadn't given her a prepared list of stock answers, but maybe they had other hopes for a different candidate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Henryhill2


    Can anyone synopsise what the motivation of the dragons is and how much it's costing them and the taxpayer each?

    Assuming MDH is re-elected as seems highly likely


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,772 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Henryhill2 wrote: »
    Can anyone synopsise what the motivation of the dragons is and how much it's costing them and the taxpayer each?


    to protect us from the commies!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Henryhill2


    This stuff that's coming out about MDH not working with business and the IDA

    Is that coming from Gallagher's camp?

    It would play in his favour


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Interesting parallel that hasn't arisen in media circles so far, but both Mary Lou and Ni Riada are both bandwagon jumpers with no IRA background who jumped on the SF escalator when they saw it moving upwards. Mary Lou jumped from FF when she saw a chance to rise to the top in political life by filling a need for an acceptable non-IRA head to run for SF, and Ni Riada fits the same mould -- never in the IRA afaik, but able to get catapulted into the MEP job on the basis that she is a woman with an Irish name and can perform well in public. The fact that her father was a musician specialising in trad has helped her too.
    Both of them seem part of a SF strategy that puts 'acceptable' candidates in front of voters, but from their point of view the career opportunities that they identified are strikingly similar. Andrews in Dublin is another in the same mould.
    You wouldn't rise in the ranks like that in any of the mainstream parties, the councilors toiling at the coalface wouldn't allow it. In SF however they have to do as they're told -- Arthur Morgan's disappearance from the Dail race is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to discipline in this outfit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    eastwest wrote: »
    Surprising that the army council hadn't given her a prepared list of stock answers, but maybe they had other hopes for a different candidate.

    Conspiracy theories forum over that way ^


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even the act of 'bowing out' is in itself a piece of attention seeking. Let the councils and the Oireachtas members decide when you're out of the race, or if you were truly in it in the first race.

    I'm no longer a candidate

    but click here to buy my art.

    that's not cynical at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,082 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    There has to be only one result in all this fiasco,a landslide victory for Micheal D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Henryhill2 wrote: »
    Can anyone synopsise what the motivation of the dragons is and how much it's costing them and the taxpayer each?

    Last time Gallagher spent 320K and got 200K back.

    But you only get those expenses is you reach 12.5% on the day, which only Higgins, McGuinness and Gallagher did last time.

    Dana only spent 60K last time.

    I don't think each additional hopeless candidate costs the taxpayer much, and SF were going to force an election regardless.

    The only poll so far says Higgins and Gallagher get expenses, everyone else loses their shirt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter



    But you only get those expenses is you reach 12.5% on the day, which only Higgins, McGuinness and Gallagher did last time.

    Dana only spent 60K last time.

    I don't think each additional hopeless candidate costs the taxpayer much, and SF were going to force an election regardless.

    The only poll so far says Higgins and Gallagher get expenses, everyone else loses their shirt.

    Have to say that the vision of a shirtless of Ni Riada or Freeman give me the willies. :eek:

    Ladies, whatever may happen, I beseech you to keep your shirts on!


    As a matter of interest does anyone know who'll be looking after Munster's interests in Europe while both Brian Crowley (the permanently missing MEP) and Ni Riada are awol?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    jmcc wrote: »
    Haven't noticed it yet? :) Look at the way that the Aras expenses have been floated over the last few weeks and the mention of questions being asked at the Public Accounts Committee. The whole champagne socialist thing is going to be a major liability for the Higgins campaign and it will be exploited.

    Regards...jmcc

    It's a non story. He doesn't sign off on his own expenses. We've the same stories every St. Patrick's day with no marks getting a parade and hotels around the world. Team Dragon will have it well milked by election day and with everything Higgins brings to the table they can't, like class, he's nothing to worry about.
    He'd buy and sell the lot of them in a debate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Henryhill2


    I have a suspicion Duffy won't be spending much

    He's in the media business already and wont he get a lot of free airtime by right as a candidate anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    davycc wrote: »
    Conspiracy theories forum over that way ^
    Have you ever listened to the clones being interviewed? Same phrases, same gestures, like they came out of a robot factory.
    'But let me say this....'


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Squatter wrote: »
    Have to say that the vision of a shirtless of Ni Riada or Freeman give me the willies. :eek:

    Ladies, whatever may happen, I beseech you to keep your shirts on!


    As a matter of interest does anyone know who'll be looking after Munster's interests in Europe while both Brian Crowley (the permanently missing MEP) and Ni Riada are awol?
    As a member of GUE/NGL, Ni Riada wasn't really doing much to further Munster's interests in Europe anyway. That group's forte is shouting from the back of the class, UKIP style.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Dana only spent 60K last time.
    Norris must still be repaying his debt.

    Say what you like about Dana, or Senator Norris, but a figure like that is probably similar to what your average retired worker has in personal savings. it takes either real stupidity or real conviction to blow that on a campaign which you're likely to lose, and I don't think I'm cynical enough to believe the former!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,353 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Henryhill2 wrote: »
    This stuff that's coming out about MDH not working with business and the IDA

    Is that coming from Gallagher's camp?

    It would play in his favour

    Any source for the above? I’ve seen it mentioned in one rant type post on this thread and that’s it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Henryhill2


    I can almost guarantee that Duffy will be taking sly potshots at MDH

    Gallagher will be talking BS about expanding the role ,connecting with people on the margins and forging business links and investment waffle


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    There has to be only one result in all this fiasco,a landslide victory for Micheal D.
    The public is very fickle, I'd never rule out an upset.
    Remember that Ming topped the poll in the last European elections and disappeared without trace, but his lack of activity in the interim won't stop him doing a bit of ranting that will get him back on top next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,772 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Henryhill2 wrote: »
    This stuff that's coming out about MDH not working with business and the IDA

    Is that coming from Gallagher's camp?

    It would play in his favour

    what stuff?

    if Gallagher wants to work for the IDA he should apply for job there


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Result from Kerry:

    Casey 14 councillors (9 FF, 2 Healy-Raes, 2 Ind, 1 FG)

    "William Delaney" 4 (3 Ind, 1 SF)

    Gemma O'Doherty 3 (all SF)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,353 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    what stuff?

    if Gallagher wants to work for the IDA he should apply for job there

    Nah, can’t see him doing a good job for the Ida. Too gruff/ignorant and stand offish/aggressive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Clare County Council also endorses Casey.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭richiepurgas


    Has Gallagher, the alleged entrepreneur, ever created jobs for anyone besides himself ? If so, how many ?


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