Most annoying habits of passengers?

L1011

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Its funny but now that I think of it, I cant ever recall seeing a very large/obese person on a Ryanair flight. A few slightly heavy people yes but nobody very big who might have needed an extra seat or extension. Does Ryanair even have a policy for larger passengers?

This is just my observation by the way, im sure others have noticed different.

They have belt extensions; their website has detailed instructions on how to buy a second seat (which will actually be beside you!)

The very large passenger thing is more of a US phenomenon still; but we're catching up.

_Dara_

Andrew Beef wrote: »

Entitled types treating the staff badly and people with poor personal hygiene are my two bugbears.

I always use the business class flatbeds where available on the Faro and Malaga routes, and the amount of eejits I’ve seen over the years who think it’s business class and demand special treatment. Not to mention “all fur coat and no knickers” faux rich people lording it over staff generally.

What are these? Totally ignorant here. There are beds but it’s not business class?

VG31

_Dara_ wrote: »

What are these? Totally ignorant here. There are beds but it’s not business class?

EI use A330s to Faro and Malaga during peak season. They don't have business class on European flights but you can pay extra for the business class seats. It's still economy class otherwise.

Bob24

L1011 wrote: »

The very large passenger thing is more of a US phenomenon still; but we're catching up.

Yes that’s my experience. I have encountered passengers who are too large for their seat on domestic flights in the US and also on a long haul flight from Europe to Asia, but never on flights within Europe.

Andrew Beef

VG31 wrote: »

_Dara_ wrote: »

What are these? Totally ignorant here. There are beds but it’s not business class?

EI use A330s to Faro and Malaga during peak season. They don't have business class on European flights but you can pay extra for the business class seats. It's still economy class otherwise.

Precisely...you get the business class seat which turns into a flat-bed and has a massage function for €59 or thereabouts.

Heckler

Prob been said but the people who jump up the second the planes stopped moving and start ****ing around. I'll see ya at the baggage carousel in 20 minutes. Usually one of the last off a plane. Granted these would be holiday flights and not some business rush to get somewhere with no checked luggage.

Same again for idiots at security who only realise ( care )when they meet a security guard oh yeah my belt, shoes, coins, laptop, phones....clowns.

Same anytime I was on a assigned seated flight. People standing in a queue for 40 mins to board. Its ASSIGNED SEATING you fool. Even if its not can you really not bear to sit beside your wife for a short trip to ****ing Europe for a few hours ?!?

Last on. Last off.

Phil.x

Andrew Beef wrote: »

I always use the business class flatbeds where available on the Faro and Malaga routes, and the amount of eejits I’ve seen over the years who think it’s business class and demand special treatment.

Please explain?
Isn't business class business class including flatbed

mfceiling

Love when I'm sitting in the middle or the aisle seat and the clown at the window hops up when the plane stops. Sorry but you'll be standing there with a bent neck under the overhead locker cause I'm not standing up like an eejit while the plane waits for the steps and then the front 18 rows of people get their gear and get off.

Andrew Beef

Phil.x wrote: »

Andrew Beef wrote: »

I always use the business class flatbeds where available on the Faro and Malaga routes, and the amount of eejits I’ve seen over the years who think it’s business class and demand special treatment.

Please explain?
Isn't business class business class including flatbed

Aer Lingus use large wide-bodied / double-aisle aircraft on the Dublin-Faro and Dublin-Malaga routes. These are fitted with a business class cabin.

Aer Lingus sell the seat only for a €60 fee or thereabouts. It’s not “business class” (i.e. there’s no food etc). You just have the use of the seat.

trellheim

I always stand up as soon as possible if I'm in the aisle seat. It gives the person who was beside me a bit of space while we wait in what is usually quite a cramped space. Everyone's different I suppose.

As for the OP above who mentions queueing - yes you have a seat - but your bag doesn't, and also if you board earlier its usually not such a scrum.

Phil.x

Andrew Beef wrote: »

Aer Lingus use large wide-bodied / double-aisle aircraft on the Dublin-Faro and Dublin-Malaga routes. These are fitted with a business class cabin.

Aer Lingus sell the seat only for a €60 fee or thereabouts. It’s not “business class” (i.e. there’s no food etc). You just have the use of the seat.

Ah yes now I remember, I was on that type of plane going to Malaga a few years ago.

chicorytip

Heckler wrote:

Same again for idiots at security who only realise ( care )when they meet a security guard oh yeah my belt, shoes, coins, laptop, phones....clowns.

Many passengers would not be aware of this requirement, particularly those who are elderly and those who may not have flown for a long period.

L1011

chicorytip wrote: »

Many passengers would not be aware of this requirement, particularly those who are elderly and those who may not have flown for a long period.

The % of passengers who don't seem to remember the rules is quite astonishing at times

I flew out of LIS and OPO last week (internal flight then my Ryanair epic journey home) and the % of pax there who get confused there seemed much lower.

Both had vastly higher throughput rates at security than DUB and, due to passengers generally seeming to know what they were doing, no need for barked instructions from the staff to passengers.

Not relevant to passenger behaviour but one of them airports I think OPO, had fully powered rollers in and out of the scanners which reduced the amount of times staff have to reach in to hoik out a tray; also you left trays on the outflow as they would reach the end and fall in to the return system. Allowed the staff to just work with passengers having issues and not have to do busy-work with the trays.

trellheim

Many passengers would not be aware of this requirement, particularly those who are elderly and those who may not have flown for a long period.

As an *extremely* frequent flyer the elderly are just fine in this regard. The usual culprits are those who are unfamiliar with the process

1: get the tray from underneath
2: you dont need to lob it all into one tray
3: its not the uniformed chaps' job to push the tray into the rollers
4: YES your rollie goes into the tray

but a bit of humour goes a long way but its difficult I grant you with the sweatshop in T1 screening

my experience is it all works out usually , but if it bothers you take George Clooney's advice and get behind the frequent business flyers

mfceiling

trellheim wrote: »

I always stand up as soon as possible if I'm in the aisle seat.

Why? It can take up to 10 minutes for them to get the steps, open the doors and get the first rows of people disembarked. Why not just sit in comfort and wait?

HeidiHeidi

mfceiling wrote: »

Why? It can take up to 10 minutes for them to get the steps, open the doors and get the first rows of people disembarked. Why not just sit in comfort and wait?

After sitting for whatever length of time in wildly uncomfortable seats (esp those that don't recline!) I can usually not wait to get up and stretch my back out!



Airplaine seats =/= comfort, IMHO!

_Dara_

trellheim wrote: »

As an *extremely* frequent flyer the elderly are just fine in this regard. The usual culprits are those who are unfamiliar with the process

1: get the tray from underneath
2: you dont need to lob it all into one tray
3: its not the uniformed chaps' job to push the tray into the rollers
4: YES your rollie goes into the tray

but a bit of humour goes a long way but its difficult I grant you with the sweatshop in T1 screening

my experience is it all works out usually , but if it bothers you take George Clooney's advice and get behind the frequent business flyers

Not everywhere though. At Schoenefeld two weeks ago, suitcases did not need to go in the tray. Rules can slightly differ at different airports. It can cause delays and confusion.

Had a LOL moment at Schoenefeld though. The security guy asked me if my husband was “wunderbar” and should we let him through the scanner? :pac:

Andrew Beef

Some people seem to have that personality disorder whereby they believe that everyone else is an actor in the play that is their life.

“Why do you want to queue?”

“Why do you want to stand up when the flight lands?”

A) “None of your f..king business

“Because both actions frame a prolonged period sitting in an uncomfortable and restricted position.”

trellheim

Why? It can take up to 10 minutes for them to get the steps, open the doors and get the first rows of people disembarked. Why not just sit in comfort and wait?

like I said ... give the person next to me a bit of room, and as others have said I need the stretch.

Bob24

Andrew Beef wrote: »

Some people seem to have that personality disorder whereby they believe that everyone else is an actor in the play that is their life.

“Why do you want to queue?”

“Why do you want to stand up when the flight lands?”

A) “None of your f..king business

“Because both actions frame a prolonged period sitting in an uncomfortable and restricted position.”

Yes some people also have a very extensive definition of “annoying” in this context. One might think queuing or standing up in the cabin is stupid and that’s fine (although I would think they are missing a good list of valid reasons for doing so), but as long as the people who are doing it are not pushing me or using my personal space, I would hardly call them annoying. It’s different from let’s say someone behind you repeatedly kicking the back of my chair, which will annoy me because it affects me.

rushfan

trellheim wrote:

like I said ... give the person next to me a bit of room, and as others have said I need the stretch.

The sense of irritation with someone standing up, especially after a long haul flight, is something I don't get. Personally, I appreciate being able to stand after mostly sitting down for anywhere between 7 & 10hrs.

Wanderer2010

rushfan wrote: »

The sense of irritation with someone standing up, especially after a long haul flight, is something I don't get. Personally, I appreciate being able to stand after mostly sitting down for anywhere between 7 & 10hrs.

I understand that point but people often get straight up the second the plane stops even on very short flights (1-2 hours) and just stand there looking semi-impatient as if the plane is going to instantly open the door and you can hope out. It doesn't affect me personally but I find it quite odd that people get up almost immediately just to stand in a cramped aisle for 10-15 minutes before moving again. I prefer to enjoy the seat. The carousel isn't going anywhere.

rushfan

Wanderer2010 wrote:

I understand that point but people often get straight up the second the plane stops even on very short flights (1-2 hours) and just stand there looking semi-impatient as if the plane is going to instantly open the door and you can hope out. It doesn't affect me personally but I find it quite odd that people get up almost immediately just to stand in a cramped aisle for 10-15 minutes before moving again. I prefer to enjoy the seat. The carousel isn't going anywhere.

I get that alright, personally I think it's daft. The one that really irks me is the halfwit that stands up to retrieve the bag from the overhead locker & attempts to adjust it, etc while the aircraft is taxying to stand.

VG31

_Dara_ wrote: »

Not everywhere though. At Schoenefeld two weeks ago, suitcases did not need to go in the tray. Rules can slightly differ at different airports. It can cause delays and confusion.

Had a LOL moment at Schoenefeld though. The security guy asked me if my husband was “wunderbar” and should we let him through the scanner? :pac:

There's no consistency at all when it comes to airport security. In some airports bags have to be put in the trays, in others they don't. I usually bring a camera with me and sometimes I have to take it out of my bag, once I even had to take it out of the camera case.

Some airports are ridiculously fussy about the most minor of items while others don't seem bothered at all. I have even taken 500 ml (non-empty) bottles through security on at least one occasion.

Dublin Airport is good for not having any strange or unnecessary extra rules at airport security. I can think of lots of times I've brought items through Dublin Airport security with no problem but had issues with the other airport on the inbound journey.

Stovepipe

VG31 wrote: »

I've flown on Lufthansa, Austrian, SWISS, KLM and Aer Lingus Regional recently and I wasn't asked for my boarding pass on any of the flights. I seem to remember having to show it on Ryanair but I haven't flown with them in years.

It's pointless to have to show it again if the gate has an airbridge. It's not as if you could be getting on the wrong flight.

Not so. Dublin has a lot of split airbridges that serve two aircraft at once and it is entirely possible to walk down the wrong one. More than once, we have had to redirect passengers.

Noxegon

ome airports are ridiculously fussy about the most minor of items while others don't seem bothered at all.

It has been a few years since I last flew through ORK but I distinctly remember a sign that said that liquid bags must be presented separately - and that if they are not they will not be permitted on board. That one intrigued me at the time.

mikemac2

I’m the annoying passenger as I held up security in Hamburg. Well less than a minute or so

My few bits n bobs were under 100ml but I didn’t have a plastic bag. I just assumed you can get one in the airport, Dublin is fantastic for this. If Hamburg has these I did see them anywhere at all and I looked.

I went to security anyway and they process one person at a time on the conveyor. I got a well deserved lecture and then another lecture from another person. Fair ‘nuff and they let me through

After security (what good is it after ?) I saw a sign that they sell the bags. It’s a bit gouging I think to sell the bags when they could be free

I took 10 or so from Dublin so that’ll do me in future

Hamburg is a very modern airport and the rail link is fantastic but I think the queuing system for security is not good at all. Very tight and small and slow which is not the staffs fault, just the way it’s designed

iamwhoiam

mikemac2 wrote: »

I’m the annoying passenger as I held up security in Hamburg. Well less than a minute or so

My few bits n bobs were under 100ml but I didn’t have a plastic bag. I just assumed you can get one in the airport, Dublin is fantastic for this. If Hamburg has these I did see them anywhere at all and I looked.

I went to security anyway and they process one person at a time on the conveyor. I got a well deserved lecture and then another lecture from another person. Fair ‘nuff and they let me through

After security (what good is it after ?) I saw a sign that they sell the bags. It’s a bit gouging I think to sell the bags when they could be free

I took 10 or so from Dublin so that’ll do me in future

Hamburg is a very modern airport and the rail link is fantastic but I think the queuing system for security is not good at all. Very tight and small and slow which is not the staffs fault, just the way it’s designed

If everyone took 10 bags from Dublin airport then I imagine they might have to start charging too

mikemac2

Ah I never will again

xtradel

Hello, Fatty here....only really fly with Ryanair & Aer Lingus. I always need an extension belt and with Ryanair they have them there as you board which I think is great because it saves the embarrassment of having to talk across your fellow passenger and ask for one. With Aer Lingus they present it to you as if you've just asked for the secret key to Narnia.

What would happen if a load of Fatty's arrived at the plane.....would they have enough to go around? Is there a regulation regarding how many belts they need to have available?

Also if you ever meet me on a plane I'll be the person squashed up against the window because I'm fully aware of my size and will do whatever I can do to not draw attention to myself. If you are stuck beside an obese person and they invade your space well that just means they're a prick and if they were normal size they'd probably still be pricks! Some people have this strange sense of entitlement wherever they go.