Most annoying habits of passengers?

Wanderer2010

As the title says, I have experienced a lot of this over the last few months as I have been travelling more with work and you get to dread certain passengers being near you. Top irritants for me:

1. People who allow their kids to bang heavily on the touch screen of the in flight entertainment screen despite this clearly annoying the person sitting in front. Ive witnessed this and had it happen to me a few times where a parent could be telling the kid to press all the different buttons and completely oblivious to the fact that they are hammering it way too hard and p!ssing off the person in front.

2. People who barge past you as you are boarding when you stop just for a second to put something in overhead bin. And I don't mean holding up the queue, I mean briefly stopping for a moment only to have someone rudely push you. You aren't going anywhere soon, so what's the bloody hurry?

3. People who recline on my lap for 8 hours, Pure and utter ignorance and very inconsiderate to push into my personal space for that long. I would never do that.

4. Passengers who ask for a menu on long haul flights....its Aer Lingus not Gordon Ramsay!

5. People who have the headphones on at full volume and oblivious to those around them.


Obese people sitting next to you- its a complete hot potato and most airliners are just too scared to upset the obese person for fear of lawsuits and bad publicity etc. Ive seen one guy who had to be about 30 stone and he needed an extension seat belt but he was literally sitting on the poor woman next to him not a bother, Really, they should have to pay for two seats.

lion_bar

People who use my seat to drag themselves up when getting up. Usually just as I nod off.

poteen

lion_bar wrote: »

People who use my seat to drag themselves up when getting up. Usually just as I nod off.

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poteen

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

As the title says, I have experienced a lot of this over the last few months as I have been travelling more with work and you get to dread certain passengers being near you. Top irritants

3. People who recline on my lap for 8 hours, Pure and utter ignorance and very inconsiderate to push into my personal space for that long. I would never do that.
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Never agreed with this argument. Once the seat is reclined slowly ,what's the problem? During meals you take it forward. The function is there in the seat so.why is it ignorance to use it ?

squonkie

Absolutely on 1,2 and 3. Never heard of number 4 but take your word for it! For me reclining seats should be banned on all flights until airlines gives us decent leg room

Number 5 hits close to home for me as a confirmed fat sod. Maybe not 30 stone but not a slim chap. I am bloody paranoid about bothering other passengers and will always take an aisle seat so I can lean as far into the aisle as I can. Also sit with my arms crossed as much as I can to make myself as small as possible.

Mint Sauce

People who sit by the window, and insist of getting out of their seat TWICE, during a 60-90min flight.

Andrew Beef

Bare feet.
Drunks.
Smelly people.
People who appear to have never heard about 100ml rules/no bags on exit row/etc

John_Rambo

For aviation workers I'd imagine it's drunk people. Or 'that person" that gets up and starts packing away when the plane's still taxiing.

And for you on-flight staff, thanks for your patience when it comes to kids on flights. Have a few photos of my young fella sitting in the Captains seat proud as punch with himself.

squonkie

poteen wrote: »

Never agreed with this argument. Once the seat is reclined slowly ,what's the problem? During meals you take it forward. The function is there in the seat so.why is it ignorance to use it ?

Its more that if I sit in a standard seat if the person in front of me reclines then is slams into my knees. If I stretch my legs out I can never put my knees back up. But then as a larger gent I normally pay extra for an exit/ extra legroom seat

Wanderer2010

poteen wrote: »

Never agreed with this argument. Once the seat is reclined slowly ,what's the problem? During meals you take it forward. The function is there in the seat so.why is it ignorance to use it ?

Because its right in your space and it significantly affects your enjoyment and comfort. Meal times are only a fraction of a flight. When its reclined you have to adjust the tv screen so that its practically down on the floor. Its an inconsiderate thing to do to someone and personally I would never do it.

Andrew Beef

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

poteen wrote: »

Never agreed with this argument. Once the seat is reclined slowly ,what's the problem? During meals you take it forward. The function is there in the seat so.why is it ignorance to use it ?

Because its right in your space and it significantly affects your enjoyment and comfort. Meal times are only a fraction of a flight. When its reclined you have to adjust the tv screen so that its practically down on the floor. Its an inconsiderate thing to do to someone and personally I would never do it.

I don’t agree with that. If a seat reclines, a person is entitled to recline it (except during meal times). The airlines are to blame for the lack of legroom.

faceman

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

As the title says, I have experienced a lot of this over the last few months as I have been travelling more with work and you get to dread certain passengers being near you. Top irritants for me:

1. People who allow their kids to bang heavily on the touch screen of the in flight entertainment screen despite this clearly annoying the person sitting in front. Ive witnessed this and had it happen to me a few times where a parent could be telling the kid to press all the different buttons and completely oblivious to the fact that they are hammering it way too hard and p!ssing off the person in front.

2. People who barge past you as you are boarding when you stop just for a second to put something in overhead bin. And I don't mean holding up the queue, I mean briefly stopping for a moment only to have someone rudely push you. You aren't going anywhere soon, so what's the bloody hurry?

3. People who recline on my lap for 8 hours, Pure and utter ignorance and very inconsiderate to push into my personal space for that long. I would never do that.

4. Passengers who ask for a menu on long haul flights....its Aer Lingus not Gordon Ramsay!

5. People who have the headphones on at full volume and oblivious to those around them.


Obese people sitting next to you- its a complete hot potato and most airliners are just too scared to upset the obese person for fear of lawsuits and bad publicity etc. Ive seen one guy who had to be about 30 stone and he needed an extension seat belt but he was literally sitting on the poor woman next to him not a bother, Really, they should have to pay for two seats.

I’m going to play Devil’s advocate for a moment as I too am a frequent long haul flyer

1. Not sure what “bang heavily” means but until you have had to travel with kids of your own you’ll never cut slack to anyone with kids. No one does.

2. Agreed.

3. While it’s a nuisance, it’s totally permitted. It’s possible the person in front of them reclined their seat so reclining was the only option to give extra space.

4. Some long haul economy airlines have menus. E.G. Emirates.

5. The cabin is so noisy from the engines/air con I’ve never noticed this. Best investment anyway I’ve ever made is decent noise cancelling headphones. (Bose ftw!)

If all else fails, book two seats or fly business.

Wanderer2010

Andrew Beef wrote: »

I don’t agree with that. If a seat reclines, a person is entitled to recline it (except during meal times). The airlines are to blame for the lack of legroom.

I think its rude for someone to impose on someone elses comfort for such a long flight purely for their own comfort. It being an option to recline doesn't change my view.

John_Rambo

squonkie wrote: »

Absolutely on 1,2 and 3. Never heard of number 4 but take your word for it! For me reclining seats should be banned on all flights until airlines gives us decent leg room

Number 5 hits close to home for me as a confirmed fat sod. Maybe not 30 stone but not a slim chap. I am bloody paranoid about bothering other passengers and will always take an aisle seat so I can lean as far into the aisle as I can. Also sit with my arms crossed as much as I can to make myself as small as possible.

Jaysus, you shouldn't have to do that. Seasoned fliers are aware it's a plane and will accept the fact that they're sitting beside someone. If someone's bigger than me, they get the elbow rest.

Some people on flights think they're at the opera in a tranquil Michelin star restaurant. They're not. They're on a bus with wings most of the time. Fly business class and if you can't afford it, if you can't you're going to have to accept there's big people, small people. Including kids.

Andrew Beef

I have no issue with kids on a plane I must admit; I’ve been that soldier and it’s not easy. Parents deserve some slack. Just stick some noise cancelling headphones on and Bob’s your uncle; or travel Business Class.

BrokenArrows

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

As the title says, I have experienced a lot of this over the last few months as I have been travelling more with work and you get to dread certain passengers being near you. Top irritants for me:

1. People who allow their kids to bang heavily on the touch screen of the in flight entertainment screen despite this clearly annoying the person sitting in front. Ive witnessed this and had it happen to me a few times where a parent could be telling the kid to press all the different buttons and completely oblivious to the fact that they are hammering it way too hard and p!ssing off the person in front.

2. People who barge past you as you are boarding when you stop just for a second to put something in overhead bin. And I don't mean holding up the queue, I mean briefly stopping for a moment only to have someone rudely push you. You aren't going anywhere soon, so what's the bloody hurry?

3. People who recline on my lap for 8 hours, Pure and utter ignorance and very inconsiderate to push into my personal space for that long. I would never do that.

4. Passengers who ask for a menu on long haul flights....its Aer Lingus not Gordon Ramsay!

5. People who have the headphones on at full volume and oblivious to those around them.


Obese people sitting next to you- its a complete hot potato and most airliners are just too scared to upset the obese person for fear of lawsuits and bad publicity etc. Ive seen one guy who had to be about 30 stone and he needed an extension seat belt but he was literally sitting on the poor woman next to him not a bother, Really, they should have to pay for two seats.

No 3. While i dont enjoy it i dont get mad over it.
They are not invading your space. Their seat moves into that space. So they are using space thats allocated to them. If you think the seat is too close then recline your seat.

Earleybird

I love the not so touch sensitive touch screen games on the Virgin planes, especially when the lad behind is hammering the screen for all he's worth. Turned out it was a bowling game...

Deagol

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

As the title says, I have experienced a lot of this over the last few months as I have been travelling more with work and you get to dread certain passengers being near you. Top irritants for me:

1. People who allow their kids to bang heavily on the touch screen of the in flight entertainment screen despite this clearly annoying the person sitting in front. Ive witnessed this and had it happen to me a few times where a parent could be telling the kid to press all the different buttons and completely oblivious to the fact that they are hammering it way too hard and p!ssing off the person in front.

2. People who barge past you as you are boarding when you stop just for a second to put something in overhead bin. And I don't mean holding up the queue, I mean briefly stopping for a moment only to have someone rudely push you. You aren't going anywhere soon, so what's the bloody hurry?

3. People who recline on my lap for 8 hours, Pure and utter ignorance and very inconsiderate to push into my personal space for that long. I would never do that.

4. Passengers who ask for a menu on long haul flights....its Aer Lingus not Gordon Ramsay!

5. People who have the headphones on at full volume and oblivious to those around them.


Obese people sitting next to you- its a complete hot potato and most airliners are just too scared to upset the obese person for fear of lawsuits and bad publicity etc. Ive seen one guy who had to be about 30 stone and he needed an extension seat belt but he was literally sitting on the poor woman next to him not a bother, Really, they should have to pay for two seats.

Travel a lot for work and found a few things that work:

1) Book front of emergency middle rows - no one can kick that seat. No kids allowed.
2) Book business - even if it means paying out of your own pocket. I regualrly bid to upgrade with EI out of my own pocket for TA flights.
3) Ask at the desk or in the lounge for a seat away from everyone else. I regularly get given row near the back with other two seats blocked. Worth the extra disembarking time for the sleep

homerjay2005

people who spend about 3 minutes putting luggage into over head lockers and completely oblivious to the fact that the are taking up the complete aisle and holding up half the passengers on the plane.

its fairly easy to move in out of the way and let others pass while still putting your luggage up.

John_Rambo

Andrew Beef wrote: »

I have no issue with kids on a plane I must admit; I’ve been that soldier and it’s not easy. Parents deserve some slack. Just stick some noise cancelling headphones on and Bob’s your uncle; or travel Business Class.

Yeah, I'm with you, I've never had issues with kids on planes. Before I had kids I was a frequent flyer, short and long haul and I've been beside the kids that's ears are uncomfortably popping and been beside the ones that you can chat to. I take a Southern European approach towards kids in restaurants, plazas, planes etc... and engage with them or ignore them and let them carry on.

I have my own kids now and I'm very very aware of other passengers and ensure they're behaviour is perfect on the plane, but you're always going to get comments. One I had from a fellow tourist was "she shouldn't be on the plane till she can afford the ticket herself" She was asleep for the whole flight with not a peep out of her!!!! But this fella had to have his say.

sacamano

Sure, everyone is aware of the drill at this stage but show a little bit of respect and keep quiet when staff are running through safety procedures and what not.

Pawwed Rig

People who jump up as soon as the plane stops and remain standing crouched over on the window seat until the ailse clears.

People who stand in queue for a flight. Bizaar behaviour. There is a seat there for you. The plane will not go without you.

Special shoutout to the lady who decided painting her toenails on a flight was appropriate. The smell.......

Wanderer2010

sacamano wrote: »

Sure, everyone is aware of the drill at this stage but show a little bit of respect and keep quiet when staff are running through safety procedures and what not.

An outdated procedure to be doing this manually in my view-stick the procedure up on the screen for 5 minutes and interrupt the IFE, much more efficient.

John_Rambo

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

An outdated procedure to be doing this manually in my view-stick the procedure up on the screen for 5 minutes and interrupt the IFE, much more efficient.

The Australian flight staff are very keen to stop the demo and tell anyone not listening to take the earphones off and buck up!! Amusing for everyone else!!

sacamano

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

People who stand in queue for a flight. Bizaar behaviour. There is a seat there for you. The plane will not go without you.

It’s not the case for everyone but sometimes people need to be able to put their hand luggage above them (delicate items, for example) so they just want to make sure it doesn’t have to go into the hold.

rushfan

No issue with kids on aircraft. Some years ago, while taxying prior to takeoff from Lanzarote, my then 14 month old daughter screamed her lungs out. I actually smiled at the time because the couple in front of us were downright unfriendly during the 2 weeks whenever we encountered them around the apartment complex. As soon as the aircraft lifted, she fell asleep in my arms for the next 4 hrs. Also, when you board, you're in row 6 for example, there's nobody sitting down but the overhead locker is full. Does my head in. People who stand up & start fiddling with their carry on bags as soon as the aircraft has landed & taxying to stand.

Andrew Beef

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

People who jump up as soon as the plane stops and remain standing crouched over on the window seat until the aisle clears.

People who stand in queue for a flight. Bizaar behaviour. There is a seat there for you. The plane will not go without you.

I would cut people some slack on both fronts.

Sometime’s people are in a rush and need to get out into the aisle quickly.

Similarly, the issue with queuing to board revolves around ensuring that you find space for your carry-on bag, thus ensuring that you can disembark on time and make a connection / catch a train etc.

lardzeppelin

Things to make air travel more palatable...
Fat seats with inertia reel belts for fat passengers with inertia lifestyles...
In flight entertainment... A book... (the papery thing that baldrick threw on the fire! )...
All baggage in the hold, only a small satchel or clutch on board...
No tilting seats, ever again...
Mandatory toilet usage before flights and a cost of 10 euro to use the latrine... (under 2 hour flights)...
'family areas', seating for parents and children (with face painting, clowns, bouncy seats and an 'all you can eat' ice cream dispenser)...
No food carts, byob and sandwiches...
No roller blades, light sabres, selfie sticks or life sized cardboard cutouts of Ed Sheeran...
So, with that in mind, "jobs a good-un"...

nlrkjos

People with carry-on luggage that is just too big to squeeze in overhead bins, especially the "ladies" who look for help lifting it!! I just ignore them or if asked for help, tell them "you carried, it you load it!"

Jimmy Dags

Taking a dump on a short haul flight, empty your bowls please at the airport.

faoiarvok

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

1. People who allow their kids to bang heavily on the touch screen of the in flight entertainment screen despite this clearly annoying the person sitting in front. Ive witnessed this and had it happen to me a few times where a parent could be telling the kid to press all the different buttons and completely oblivious to the fact that they are hammering it way too hard and p!ssing off the person in front.

Not confined to kids, but to be fair, the responsiveness of the screens doesn’t help at all. Has made my journey less comfortable worrying about pressing too hard and annoying person in front while still trying to watch a movie or two.

Wanderer78

Wanderer2010 wrote:

Obese people sitting next to you- its a complete hot potato and most airliners are just too scared to upset the obese person for fear of lawsuits and bad publicity etc. Ive seen one guy who had to be about 30 stone and he needed an extension seat belt but he was literally sitting on the poor woman next to him not a bother, Really, they should have to pay for two seats.

Obesity is a very complex mental health issue, should we really be shaming them by doing this?

Brennus335

As others have said, once you've travelled with children yourself, you cut others a lot of slack.

I love the look on other passengers faces when I sit down in business class with a 3 year old and a screaming baby!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Brennus335 wrote: »

I love the look on other passengers faces when I sit down in business class with a 3 year old and a screaming baby!

Yeah, if someone is in Business Class, they're probably either travelling for work (in which case they may need to be able to get work done on the plane, or sleep), or else they just paid a pretty significant airfare to get to where they're going in comfort.

If someone landed in beside me with a screaming baby, I'd have a strange look on my face too!

plodder

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

3. People who recline on my lap for 8 hours, Pure and utter ignorance and very inconsiderate to push into my personal space for that long. I would never do that.

That shouldn't be allowed and fair play to Ryanair for not allowing it....

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Cordell

Indeed Ryanair seats don't recline and this should be the new standard. I've also seen it on another low cost airline.

plodder

Cordell wrote: »

Indeed Ryanair seats don't recline and this should be the new standard. I've also seen it on another low cost airline.

One of the rare occasions when Ryanair's penny pinching creates a favourable outcome for passengers as well as saving money.

Gwen Cooper

Obese people sitting next to you- its a complete hot potato and most airliners are just too scared to upset the obese person for fear of lawsuits and bad publicity etc. Ive seen one guy who had to be about 30 stone and he needed an extension seat belt but he was literally sitting on the poor woman next to him not a bother, Really, they should have to pay for two seats.

I am one of those obese people sitting next to you, and while I understand and apologise on behalf of all fatties for your discomfort, try to imagine how the obese person feels.

I fly a few times a year and I am dreading the flights weeks before the actual flight date. I will stand in the queue for the plane an hour before the boarding, so I make sure to get on the plane before all the other people who could see how much I'm struggling to get into the seat. I always need to ask for an extension belt, that is enough to get some judgmental looks of the other passengers.

I always try to minimise the space I take, often forcing myself to sit in an unnatural position, causing horrible cramps in my legs that don't go away until I leave the plane. I usually have huge bruises on my legs from forcing the armrest down. I am in pain every single time I'm flying, but I sit there in silence, hoping that I don't make the journey uncomfortable for the person next to me.

I strictly don't eat or drink anything after 5pm the day before the flight, to make sure that I won't need to get up and go to the toilet. I try not to move or make any sound from the moment I sit down until I get off the plane.

I'm not writing this for people to feel sorry for me, or to make you look like a horrible person, I'm simply saying this so you can realise that while you might feel uncomfortable because you lost the lottery and a fat person is sitting next to you, the obese passenger is probably feeling much more uncomfortable and doing everything in their power to minimise your suffering.

Pawwed Rig

Andrew Beef wrote: »

I would cut people some slack on both fronts.

Sometime’s people are in a rush and need to get out into the aisle quickly.

Similarly, the issue with queuing to board revolves around ensuring that you find space for your carry-on bag, thus ensuring that you can disembark on time and make a connection / catch a train etc.

If they are struggling so much cor time then they have planned their journies poorly. What will you gain by jumping up immediately? 1 minute? 2?
All so you can get to passport control 1 minute earlier and wait an extra minute for your luggage to come out. Doesn't make sense to me.

Diemos

Brennus335 wrote:

I love the look on other passengers faces when I sit down in business class with a 3 year old and a screaming baby!

You sound lovely......


Other a$$es are the folks down the back of the plane who dump their bags in the first available space in the over head bins, leaving no space for the people up front to place their bags.

GreeBo

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Obesity is a very complex mental health issue, should we really be shaming them by doing this?

Physics is a simple issue, if you don't fit in one seat then you need to buy two seats.

North of 32

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

People who stand in queue for a flight. Bizaar behaviour. There is a seat there for you. The plane will not go without you.

You rank this among 'the most annoying habits of passengers'?

I can't even figure out how this behaviour qualifies as annoying, not even remotely.

I occassionally queue when I have carry-on luggage and I want to guarantee myself an overhead locker space. I will sometimes queue if I have a window seat. Sometimes I will queue when I have a long day of traveling and don't want to spend all of it sitting down, but it is boring of course.

Most of the time I don't queue, though.

I don't want you getting stressed over nothing, Pawwed Rig.

Bussywussy

People in the queue before the aircraft is anywhere near the airport, people who queue up before their row is called etc

The People at airports who turn into complete morons....stopping in middle of walkways, at doors, middle of corridors, looking down at phone, realising at the security check that they've to take belt off,liquids out etc list is endless....don't get me started on people staring at the monitors for ages in the middle of the corridor at T1 in Dublin by Victoria secrets.. completely the wrong place for it

splinter65

Mint Sauce wrote: »

People who sit by the window, and insist of getting out of their seat TWICE, during a 60-90min flight.

I was at a 15 minute catholic mass this morning and the person on the inside of me made me get up and let her past, and back in again, twice.
Plenty of empty pews all around.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s a desperate need for acknowledgment and possibly, any actual physical contact with another human.

Gwen Cooper

Bussywussy wrote: »

The People at airports who turn into complete morons....stopping in middle of walkways, at doors, middle of corridors, looking down at phone, realising at the security check that they've to take belt off,liquids out etc list is endless....don't get me started on people staring at the monitors for ages in the middle of the corridor at T1 in Dublin by Victoria secrets.. completely the wrong place for it

Yes. This is what I hate about the airports. People not realising that they can't just suddenly stop in the middle of the walkway. Getting angry just thinking about it.

Wanderer2010

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Obesity is a very complex mental health issue, should we really be shaming them by doing this?

Its not the fault of a non-obese person sitting next to them though, that's the issue. If you paid for a seat and had someone very large encroaching on your space for up to 10 hours would it not annoy you?

Wanderer78

GreeBo wrote:

Physics is a simple issue, if you don't fit in one seat then you need to buy two seats.

So yes, we should continue to shame people who are struggling with such complex issues?

Wanderer2010 wrote:

Its not the fault of a non-obese person sitting next to them though, that's the issue. If you paid for a seat and had someone very large encroaching on your space for up to 10 hours would it not annoy you?

Of course it would, but it's always important to try understand where other humans are coming from, try empathise with them of their situation etc.

Many a long haul of hell I've had, try relax your body and mind as much as possible, before, during and after the flight, helps a lot

Wanderer2010

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

I am one of those obese people sitting next to you, and while I understand and apologise on behalf of all fatties for your discomfort, try to imagine how the obese person feels.

I fly a few times a year and I am dreading the flights weeks before the actual flight date. I will stand in the queue for the plane an hour before the boarding, so I make sure to get on the plane before all the other people who could see how much I'm struggling to get into the seat. I always need to ask for an extension belt, that is enough to get some judgmental looks of the other passengers.

I always try to minimise the space I take, often forcing myself to sit in an unnatural position, causing horrible cramps in my legs that don't go away until I leave the plane. I usually have huge bruises on my legs from forcing the armrest down. I am in pain every single time I'm flying, but I sit there in silence, hoping that I don't make the journey uncomfortable for the person next to me.

I strictly don't eat or drink anything after 5pm the day before the flight, to make sure that I won't need to get up and go to the toilet. I try not to move or make any sound from the moment I sit down until I get off the plane.

I'm not writing this for people to feel sorry for me, or to make you look like a horrible person, I'm simply saying this so you can realise that while you might feel uncomfortable because you lost the lottery and a fat person is sitting next to you, the obese passenger is probably feeling much more uncomfortable and doing everything in their power to minimise your suffering.

Thanks for your viewpoint I appreciate your point. I don't have a problem with obese people but there does need to be some degree of effort from them not to encroach on someones space for a long flight, be that going 1st class for a wider seat or perhaps picking an extra wide seat with legroom etc. I certainly would never make anyone feel uncomfortable for being obese and being seated next to me as its happened on several occasions but the brutal truth is its not the responsibility of other passengers to work around you- its up to you to take steps (if possible) to reduce the impact.

Sadly a lot of people mutter and groan and make passive aggressive remarks when seated next to an obese person which is just nasty. And sometimes the flight attendants do it too. From Chicago to Dublin a few years ago a woman who needed an extension was sitting near the back and she asked a passing attendant for another cup of coffee- the attendant looked her up and down in distaste and said loudly "The kitchen is closed" in such a tone as to make the woman look greedy. Completely out of order.

Prominent_Dawg

I got stuck in a window seat next to an obese blind couple, although they weren’t personally invading my space, I felt I couldn’t get out during the flight as I’d be making such a fuss..which was fine, but when the plane landed they had to wait till every one got off before getting assistance. Although I was trying to be patient I was also trying to make a connecting flight, I really feel they should have being given more easy accessible seats for themselves and other passengers.. but maybe I’m just being ignorant.

Cordell

So you were stuck behind 2 people with mobility issues that were not able to get out of their seats without assistance? If true, isn't this a serious safety issue?