Police release bodycam video capturing woman's violent beach arrest

NoviGlitzko

Do you guys think this was deserved or did the police go too far?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCy7BEWvkM

Personally I think it's completely out of order that 2 policemen have to violently restrain and repeatedly punch a 20 year old woman in the face over such a petty offence as underage drinking.

NIMAN

'Merica !!

I'm not even going to watch it, I have lost interest now in watching police over-reaction videos in the US.

Uncharted

She must have a really embarrassing surname....

Your Face

New Jersey

Richard Hillman

She resisted arrest. Game over.

SSr0

No need to punch anyone multiple times in to the head, when they're more or less totally subdued on the ground.

Subcomandante Marcos

Richard Hillman wrote: »

She resisted arrest. Game over.

Would you ever goway and ****e. She weights about 7 stone, they could have restrained her easily, hammer fists tomthe face by a pathetic little man with a power trip because a girl wouldn't do what he told her. Disgusting behaviour and it takes an fecking sociopath to enact in or attempt to defend that behaviour.

mynamejeff

she was a mouthy entitled brat caught in the wrong and trying to run away and you can hear her trying to get at least one person to help her run away .

she assaulted the cops when they rightly went to arrest her and can be seen spitting at them right up to the end .

however punching her was 100 percent wrong

a shot of pepper spray or dart of a tazer would have been the way to go .

its not like she may have had a ak hidden in her swim suit , cops in america tend to over react ,

thats not a secret so why give them the opportunity

VinLieger

Richard Hillman wrote: »

She resisted arrest. Game over.

Why was she arrested? She passed the breathalyser, they literally arrested her for not giving her name which considering they had no reason to suspect her for anything illegal was perfectly okay for her to do.


Also your basically saying that the ends justify the means when it comes to police behavior which is an incredibly dangerous way for a police force to be allowed act.

Odhinn

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Do you guys think this was deserved or did the police go too far?

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Seems to be a little man on a power trip.

Outlaw Pete

Some people when they get into a position of power use any opportunity to abuse it.

It's not just in America though, we see examples of it this side of the pond many a time also.

Gravelly

The moral of the story is: Don't fight the cops when they arrest you.

The punching was over the top, but she made a fair hand of fighting them, and when you do that, someone always gets hurt - unless you are Bruce Lee, it ain't going to be the two cops. The only thing that's going to save the cops asses now is that she isn't black.

conor2469

Full version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkLb-0-L5OA



She's a belligerent, entitled brat, he is an idiot who lost his cool and got aggressive. He didn't need to hit her though, he fuc*ed up.

Outlaw Pete

Deserved to be arrested alright, but grabbing her by the hair and the thumps to her head and neck are what I see as unwarranted.

Odhinn

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Deserved to be arrested alright, but grabbing her by the hair and the thumps to her head and neck are what I see as unwarranted.

Wtf for? Not heiling and clicking her heels quick enough?

razorblunt

She's a gowl, no doubt about it.
The police officer does incredibly well to come out of this as the villain by throwing needless punches and that is some achievement.

markodaly

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Would you ever goway and ****e. She weights about 7 stone, they could have restrained her easily, hammer fists tomthe face by a pathetic little man with a power trip because a girl wouldn't do what he told her. Disgusting behaviour and it takes an fecking sociopath to enact in or attempt to defend that behaviour.

And you know this by the considerable amount of years you have trying to restrain people?

The reality is somewhat different.

weisses

Rotterdam last night

hit a cop and you are in trouble ... No mercy

https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7443549/6bd88998/gelijke_monniken,_gelijke_klappen.html

Gravelly

Odhinn wrote: »

Wtf for? Not heiling and clicking her heels quick enough?

stimpson

She was drinking from a bottle of alcohol on the beach. Do people learn nothing from TV?

Gravelly

It seems equality is unwanted when it comes to acting the maggot - if this was some drunk 7 stone guy who took on two cops, we'd never hear a word about it.

Odhinn

stimpson wrote: »

She was drinking from a bottle of alcohol on the beach. Do people learn nothing from TV?

You can't drink on the beach?

(Just did a google and it appears that you can't actually drink on the beach in nj..mad stuff)

Ubbquittious

Can't wait for yer man Trump to finish the wall the whole way around his country so they can all kill each other without us having to hear about it

VinLieger

Odhinn wrote: »

You can't drink on the beach?

(Just did a google and it appears that you can't actually drink on the beach in nj..mad stuff)

Indeed but they never saw her drink from the bottle AND she passed the breathalyser so she was arrested for what reason?

Captain Obvious

VinLieger wrote: »

Why was she arrested? She passed the breathalyser, they literally arrested her for not giving her name which considering they had no reason to suspect her for anything illegal was perfectly okay for her to do.


Also your basically saying that the ends justify the means when it comes to police behavior which is an incredibly dangerous way for a police force to be allowed act.

If you think you are being arrested in the wrong you sue the police afterwards. If you assault the police officer who is arresting you you're going to have a bad time.


As to the arrest, seems to be very poorly done from the footage available. I don't have an issue with force being used against a woman or even a punch being thrown for an arrest when required but it doesn't seem like they went through any escalation of force procedures, an issue which is pretty common in American police it seems.

Subcomandante Marcos

markodaly wrote: »

And you know this by the considerable amount of years you have trying to restrain people?

The reality is somewhat different.

If a cop can't restrain a 7 stone woman easily he shouldn't be a ****ing cop.

Odhinn

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Can't wait for yer man Trump to finish the wall the whole way around his country so they can all kill each other without us having to hear about it

Unless your plane goes down on the way to canada and you have to fight your way out of the place, while being pursued by maniac redkneck gangs in their pick up trucks.

stimpson

Odhinn wrote: »

You can't drink on the beach?

(Just did a google and it appears that you can't actually drink on the beach in nj..mad stuff)

That episode of Its Always Sunny was actually shot on Jersey Shore.

Outlaw Pete

Odhinn wrote: »

Wtf for? Not heiling and clicking her heels quick enough?

Well they're giving her a ticket and she's not giving them her name. I'm presuming that's an arrestable offense?

Most likely differs from state to state but usually in most countries failing to give your name so you can receive a ticket (like when found not to have paid a fare on public transport for example) will result in an arrest.

Either way, she certainly was assaulted to a degree which can in now way be pawned off as them having just used reasonable force.

correction

Gravelly wrote: »

It seems equality is unwanted when it comes to acting the maggot - if this was some drunk 7 stone guy who took on two cops, we'd never hear a word about it.

There absolutely has been social media uproar over men being abused by cops as well so I dunno what you mean.

Gravelly

correction wrote: »

There absolutely has been social media uproar over men being abused by cops as well so I dunno what you mean.

There's been social media uproar because a drunk white guy assaulted cops and got arrested? Really? I've never seen or heard it.

markodaly

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

If a cop can't restrain a 7 stone woman easily he shouldn't be a ****ing cop.

Again, you know this how?

You don't. In fact I doubt you ever had a physical confrontation in your life, never mind having to restrain someone and arrest them without knocking them unconscious or seriously hurting them, which is the easier option of course.

Best you get back to playing Dungeons and Dragons with the other pseudo experts before you get really found out here.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

If a cop can't restrain a 7 stone woman easily he shouldn't be a ****ing cop.

Why? Your average female cop cant restrain a 14st man. Should they be allowed to be Police Officers?

TheIrishGrover

Could have been worse. She could have been black.......

Subcomandante Marcos

markodaly wrote: »

Again, you know this how?

You don't. In fact I doubt you ever had a physical confrontation in your life, never mind having to restrain someone and arrest them without knocking them unconscious or seriously hurting them, which is the easier option of course.

Best you get back to playing Dungeons and Dragons with the other pseudo experts before you get really found out here.

Several years of Brazilian jiu-jitsu experience, boxed and practiced karate as a kid, I've been punched a few times. I as a very average BJJ player could restrain most people without hurting them or me. A cop who part of their job is to restrain people (for various reasons) should be able to do the same.

It's incredibly easy to restrain a resisting, untrained person.

Don't have time to play D&D unfortunately, too busy trying not to get malaria at the moment.

You'd best get back to trying to defend sociopaths who assault and batter petite women because they tell them to **** off.

Subcomandante Marcos

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why? Your average female cop cant restrain a 14st man. Should they be allowed to be Police Officers?

If your average female cop can't easily restrain a 7ston young woman, she shouldn't be a cop.

The whataboutery here is idiocy.

Cops should be trained to be able to do their job without resorting to physically assaulting people who pose absolutely no threat to them.

Captain Obvious

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Several years of Brazilian jiu-jitsu experience, boxed and practiced karate as a kid, I've been punched a few times. I as a very average BJJ player could restrain most people without hurting them or me. A cop who part of their job is to restrain people (for various reasons) should be able to do the same.

It's incredibly easy to restrain a resisting, untrained person.

Don't have time to play D&D unfortunately, too busy trying not to get malaria at the moment.

You'd best get back to trying to defend sociopaths who assault and batter petite women because they tell them to **** off.

So you have never had to restrain someone who does not wish to be restrained?

riffmongous

markodaly wrote: »

Again, you know this how?

You don't. In fact I doubt you ever had a physical confrontation in your life, never mind having to restrain someone and arrest them without knocking them unconscious or seriously hurting them, which is the easier option of course.

Best you get back to playing Dungeons and Dragons with the other pseudo experts before you get really found out here.

Haha, might be a good idea to check out a poster's history first before calling them out

Subcomandante Marcos

Captain Obvious wrote: »

So you have never had to restrain someone who does not wish to be restrained?

Yes.

It's pretty easy when you know what you're doing, especially if they're half your weight.

And people who I train with can do the same to me because they're more experienced or better than i am.

Captain Obvious

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Yes.

It's pretty easy when you know what you're doing, especially if they're half your weight.

I don't think you have much experience to be honest. If you had any experience you'd know that someone of any weight can resist being restrained. Not through strength or body weight but by sheer stubbornness.

gctest50

Captain Obvious wrote: »

.......

. If you had any experience you'd know that someone of any weight can resist being restrained.

Nonsense, just pick them up and put them back down again

Mutant z

The USA is a very strange country you can't legally drink alcohol until your 21 but join the army absolutely no problem,owning a gun no problem either but god help anyone purchase alcohol.

Subcomandante Marcos

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I don't think you have much experience to be honest. If you had any experience you'd know that someone of any weight can resist being restrained. Not through strength or body weight but by sheer stubbornness.

And anyone with basic training can take them down and control them, easily.

Captain Obvious

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

And anyone with basic training can take them down and control them, easily.

That's just incorrect. Maybe in a gym with an instructor on a rubber mat but in real life people can resist a hold a lot harder and getting cuffs on them is even harder again.

BPKS

I'll say this much.

After see loads of teenagers drinking on a beach near me over the last week and leaving glass bottles and other rubbish scattered all over the beach, its an awful pity that some "excessive force" isnt used here in these situations.

Subcomandante Marcos

Captain Obvious wrote: »

That's just incorrect. Maybe in a gym with an instructor on a rubber mat but in real life people can resist a hold a lot harder and getting cuffs on them is even harder again.

Sona full grown man needs to beat the ****e out of a tiny young woman to restrain her and he's justified because she pushed him when he tried to wrongfully arrest her?

Get the boat. You literally haven't a clue what you're talking about.

PandaPoo

On one hand I think she was being an idiot. She was rude and not cooperating. I heard he wasn't punching her in the head but in the arms to cuff her? I didn't see the original video though so he probably was.

Don't think he needed to pull her hair or pinch her though. The size of her! And her child was there too

Subcomandante Marcos

PandaPoo wrote: »

On one hand I think she was being an idiot. She was rude and not cooperating. I heard he wasn't punching her in the head but in the arms to cuff her? I didn't see the original video though so he probably was.

Don't think he needed to pull her hair or pinch her though. The size of her! And her child was there too

He was hammer fisting her in the head and neck.

gctest50

BPKS wrote: »

I'll say this much.

After see loads of teenagers drinking on a beach near me over the last week and leaving glass bottles and other rubbish scattered all over the beach, its an awful pity that some "excessive force" isnt used here in these situations.

The council need to put out some bins and clean the beach like normal civilised countries :

It'd be a job for someone, and it'd sort the place out



But they won't do that because ......"'them young wans aren't paying us rates and if we clean it up they'll only use it"

Captain Obvious

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Sona full grown man needs to beat the ****e out of a tiny young woman to restrain her and he's justified because she pushed him when he tried to wrongfully arrest her?

Can you show me where I said that? I said it's not always easy to restrain people who don't want to be restrained even if you are trained to do so and outweigh them.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Get the boat. You literally haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. And if you ever have to restrain someone outside a controlled setting I hope it goes well for you.

cnocbui

Richard Hillman wrote: »

She resisted arrest. Game over.

You and the dweebs who upvoted you are scary.

The arrest was illegal. There was no probable cause to believe the woman had committed an offence for which she could be legally arrested. She did not even have to submit to the brethalyzer test and would have been within her rights to refuse. Nor is there any legal requirement for her to give them her name.

The pretend-a-cops should have just walked away.

For example, in New York it’s a misdemeanor to intentionally prevent a police officer “from effecting an authorized arrest.” (N.Y. Penal Law § 205.30.) In that state, an arrest is “authorized” if the police have probable cause to believe that the suspect has broken the law, even if the suspect actually hasn’t.

Her resisting arrest was legal because they had no probable cause, particularly having got a 0 reading on the breathalyzer.