Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

PTH2009

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Ridiculous way to decide a final. Hate to be the player that misses and sends his club out. First score wins would be fairer.

Had my years mixed up

Stacksofwacks

Stopitwillya wrote: »

First team to score in added time seems fairer way to decide to me.

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Possibly but that would be tough on the referee to have to blow a free etc that might lose a team the match in a single passage of play. With penalties theres no grey areas

PTH2009

Jesus imagine a Provincial or all Ireland final going to penalties

Not good for the heart

Mastermcgrath

Neil Montgomery hit 0-5 from play for UCC today, they knocked out Imokilly who were going for 3 in a row.

deise man

County final is live on tg4 on Sunday

PTH2009

Next week's County Final fixture details...

Junior B Hurling Final:
Ballyduff Upper v Clonea in Fraher Field on Friday 28.08.20 at 7pm

Junior C Hurling Final:
Kilgobinet v Michéal MacCraith in Fraher Field on Saturday 29.08.20 at 2pm

Junior A Hurling Final:
Michéal MacCraith v Colligan in Fraher Field on Saturday 29.08.20 at 6pm

Senior Hurling Final - live on TG4:
Ballygunner v Passage in Walsh Park on Sunday 30.08.20 at 2pm

Intermediate Hurling Final:
Ballyduff Upper v Ballyduff Lower in Fraher Field on Sunday 30.08.20 at 5pm

tommylad1212

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Wow and did he save the other one?

No!

tommylad1212

Stopitwillya wrote: »

They weren't junior last year. St Mary's won the junior last year.

Dunhill beat ballyduff in last years inter eastern semi final

Slipperydodger

Serious score from Austin Gleeson at the weekend

PTH2009

Slipperydodger wrote: »

Serious score from Austin Gleeson at the weekend

Amazing point

Really hope the championship happens this year and we see him flourish

thesultan

Hutchinsons first goal was great.

brookville

Hi guys.Just wondering what is michael Walsh's role with passage?is he the manager or coach/selector?is it a big suprise to see them in the final?I remember them in a final a few years ago.i remember the eoin kelly and coughlan tussle.Is this Michael's first year with them?

Stopitwillya

brookville wrote: »

Hi guys.Just wondering what is michael Walsh's role with passage?is he the manager or coach/selector?is it a big suprise to see them in the final?I remember them in a final a few years ago.i remember the eoin kelly and coughlan tussle.Is this Michael's first year with them?

Pretty sure Michael is the manager and he has Pa Kearney who has a good reputation and was Waterford selector last year in with him as his coach. They certainly have done a great job with such a young team. His first year with Passage.

brookville

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Pretty sure Michael is the manager and he has Pa Kearney who has a good reputation and was Waterford selector last year in with him as his coach. They certainly have done a great job with such a young team. His first year with Passage.

Thanks for your reply.Michael is a good hurling man.hopefully they can give a good performance in the final although very hard to look past ballygunner.

PTH2009

brookville wrote: »

Hi guys.Just wondering what is michael Walsh's role with passage?is he the manager or coach/selector?is it a big suprise to see them in the final?I remember them in a final a few years ago.i remember the eoin kelly and coughlan tussle.Is this Michael's first year with them?

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/40468771

Noel Connors mentions how long he's been involved with the club

MfMan

Stupid question; is Passage east or west? Who were the last west club to win Senior in Waterford?

thesultan

Ballyduff 07
Population is really hitting the west.
Ballygunner are a super sized club in the Dublin model. They are actually too big.. They have everyone on the age. Others won't have a hope of competing with this..

Deisegodeo

MfMan wrote: »

Stupid question; is Passage east or west? Who were the last west club to win Senior in Waterford?

passage are located in the east, as far east in the county as you can go. while they are a rural club, a lot of people would almost consider them a city club, the hurlers go to dls school and hurl harty cup, and their big rivals would be Ballygunner.

ballyduff upper won a county title about 10 years ago or so, the only time since lismore in 1993 that the county title has been up west. it would be good for waterford hurling if one of the big western clubs could win a county title but the gap to Ballygunner is considerable at present.

mountgomery burns

Is the Passage team really that young? I see 10 of them played in the final 4 years ago.

From what Christy Browne said before, sounds like the Mt Sion team they beat were a good bit younger.

MfMan

Deisegodeo wrote: »

passage are located in the east, as far east in the county as you can go. while they are a rural club, a lot of people would almost consider them a city club, the hurlers go to dls school and hurl harty cup, and their big rivals would be Ballygunner.

ballyduff upper won a county title about 10 years ago or so, the only time since lismore in 1993 that the county title has been up west. it would be good for waterford hurling if one of the big western clubs could win a county title but the gap to Ballygunner is considerable at present.

Cheers. Stupid question II, why is the west weaker? Is it a population thing? You would think it's proximity to Cork might have 'rubbed off' on it a bit. Where is the dividing line? Dungarvan?

mountgomery burns

MfMan wrote: »

Cheers. Stupid question II, why is the west weaker? Is it a population thing? You would think it's proximity to Cork might have 'rubbed off' on it a bit. Where is the dividing line? Dungarvan?

It's disputable but Stradbally is roughly where its divided.

Population is a factor certainly. There was 23 hurling clubs in the West and 19 in the East this year, yet East Waterford would likely account for close to 2/3 of the population.

It's is particularly in the City where Senior hurling has been dominated and that's largely been the way historically. If Ballygunner win on Sunday, 3 City teams will have won 26/30 senior titles between them since 1991.

There's also the fact that a tradition of football dominates the Comeragh area down to Dungarvan, including current champions Rathgormack who though they are situated West of Stradbally actually play in the east.

In total, 6/8 teams from last years football quarter finals play in the West.

The point you make about East Cork is well merited however. Should Ballyduff Upper win this weekend in the Intermediate Final then next year the championship will feature 4 teams West of Cappoquin who are all close to the Cork border and a very small population between them (Lismore, Ballyduff Upper, Tallow and Ballysaggart).

Deise Gael

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Should Ballyduff Upper win this weekend in the Intermediate Final then next year the championship will feature 4 teams West of Cappoquin who are all close to the Cork border and a very small population between them (Lismore, Ballyduff Upper, Tallow and Ballysaggart).

I could be wrong but I thought there was no promotion from intermediate this year?

mountgomery burns

Deise Gael wrote: »

I could be wrong but I thought there was no promotion from intermediate this year?

There is I believe, but no relegation next year.

TheScoringGoal

And yet despite the dominance of Ballygunner the only current player they have with an all star is Soky. Noel Connors has 3.

I'd suggest that more concerning for the western teams than the long wait to win a county title is that as far as I can see every senior match this year between a team for the east and the west was won by the eastern team.

upthedeise16

mountgomery burns wrote: »

There is I believe, but no relegation next year.

There is promotion this year for 2021 but no relegation but 2 teams will be relegated from senior in 2021

mountgomery burns

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

I'd suggest that more concerning for the western teams than the long wait to win a county title is that as far as I can see every senior match this year between a team for the east and the west was won by the eastern team.

I think teams are only concerned about their own performances, regardless of who they lose to. We don't associate with an east v west tribalism.

Sure you've a far greater hunger to beat those lads down the road than the fellas at the other end of the County.

TheScoringGoal

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I think teams are only concerned about their own performances, regardless of who they lose to. We don't associate with an east v west tribalism.

Sure you've a far greater hunger to beat those lads down the road than the fellas at the other end of the County.

Fair point.

PTH2009

Ballygunner going for 7 in a row this weekend against the team who beat them last in the Waterford championship in 2013. That year i reckon a few BG supporters were heading off early to get to the pub to celebrate :o:o

Will this BG team equal or break the records of
Erins Own 9 in a row- 1927-1935
Mount Sion 9 in a row- 1953-1961 (would of got 13 in a row if it wasant for a 1962 final loss too Erins Own)

Billy Ocean

Lads I know Waterford City from been in the college, I presume Ardkeen and Ballygunner itself be the main population hub for the club? how far into the city is their catchment area? Thanks

seananigans

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ballygunner going for 7 in a row this weekend against the team who beat them last in the Waterford championship in 2013. That year i reckon a few BG supporters were heading off early to get to the pub to celebrate :o:o

Will this BG team equal or break the records of
Erins Own 9 in a row- 1927-1935
Mount Sion 9 in a row- 1953-1961 (would of got 13 in a row if it wasant for a 1962 final loss too Erins Own)

some money on an upset