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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Hey guess what the rail review of the Western Rail Corridor is at least a year away. Canney has done well, promised it within six months of government, he is now out of government and his report probably won't see light of day due to an election which may as likely happen next summer! Well done you did as your masters in Claremorris wanted.

    Press release From: The Western Rail Trail campaign

    September 18th 2018 for immediate release

    • Report on Western Rail Corridor could take up to a year
    • Independent Consultants will not be appointed until December
    • Greenway Feasibility Study and Rail Review should both be completed at same time
    • Galway East Greenway support now massive with 22,000 on-line petitioners and 10,000 members of ‘Quiet Man Greenway group’


    A spokesman for the Western Rail Trail Campaign, a community-based movement to preserve the alignment of the closed rail line from Athenry to Collooney by utilising the route for tourism and leisure as a greenway until such time as a railway may be possible, today said; ‘we have learned from Irish Rail that the process of completing the report into the future of the closed railway from Athenry to Claremorris could take longer than we expected, and may not be completed before late 2019’.

    The project manager of the report at Irish Rail has advised the campaign that the Terms of Reference for the Rail Review Report have now been sent to the Department of Transport for approval. Irish Rail say it will be mid-December before the independent consultant is appointed to conduct the review of the closed railway.

    ‘We realise due process has to be followed but it is getting a bit frustrating’ said the spokesperson of the Western Rail Trail campaign. ‘If the independent consultant is not appointed until December 2018 these things have a habit of dragging on’ the spokesperson continued. ‘This is the report the former independent Alliance Minister Sean Canney TD insisted on being completed within six months of his giving support to the government. Mr Canney is no longer in government and failed to deliver on his promise of this review. It always seems to be ‘let’s wait for a report’. Why is that? Is this report just being delayed in order to smother debate on the greenway option?’

    With the rail review report unlikely to see light of day until the end of 2019, this now makes the vote in favour of a feasibility study for a greenway on the closed railway at Galway County Council on September 24th all the more important. ‘The railway review and Greenway feasibility should both be done at the same time’ said the spokesperson ‘There is no reason for the motion in favour of a feasibility study to be blocked, the rail report and the greenway feasibility study can be completed and then a decision can be made. One report is not dependent on the other’, added the spokesperson.

    The campaign for a greenway from Athenry to Sligo is attracting growing support. The on-line petition in support of the greenway has risen to 22,000 signatures. ‘What is really amazing over the last few months’ said teh spokesperson ‘has been the massive increase in support for the campaign in Galway. The local Galway campaign group have named the Galway section of the Greenway ‘The Quiet Man Greenway’ and the Quiet Man Greenway Facebook group created to support the campaign has risen to over 10,000 members.

    ‘The support in Galway East in towns like Tuam Athenry and Milltown is nothing short of phenomenal’ said spokesperson ’ and there is little doubt this has the potential to be a huge issue in the local elections in May 2019’.

    ENDS: body text 486 words
    Contacts: Westtip (some of you may know his name!!)
    Find us on Facebook: sligomayogreenwaycampaign


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Muckyboots wrote: »
    Useless circular argument. A city suberb cycle-link, in a different jurisdiction, with bus lanes not trains and a government who pulled the funding before the argument even got off the ground proves nothing.

    And that is where your argument falls down Mucky boots, you and your cronies are fighting to make a rail corridor unusable and and thousands of green underdeveloped land all around you. Surely if it is in the states interest that you would be canvasing for a separate bike trail with nice wooden humpback bridges over the rivers and 6ft bridges over the M/N roads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    marno21 wrote: »
    The above argument would be a great argument for reopening Tuam-Athenry for Galway services.

    Except for the fact that most of the people on the N17 are people driving to the many car centric business parks around Galway, and other trip generators like NUIG and UHG, none of which are near the train station, and all have pathetic public transport service.

    Currently the Grid locked Galway city has been well exposed to calls for a light rail/ tram like system in their city. There is the well publicised ring road that is the very final ring road that they will be able to get. major lakes are to the north of the city making a further outer ring road unviable. In twenty years time with further expansion the ONLY answer will be light or under ground rail around the city. Of course we should be providing the infrastructure to link up with that. Unfortunately, GCC suffers from the fall out of short term politics.


    Thus, your argument is blinkered as the point of view that all the same folks who are here fighting for a bike track now, wont be fighting to keep it of have another ball of money spent on building a track on land that should be supported right now or for the hypothetical bike track to remain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    [/QUOTE]
    Press release From: The Western Rail Trail campaign

    September 18th 2018 for immediate release

    • Report on Western Rail Corridor could take up to a year
    • Independent Consultants will not be appointed until December
    • Greenway Feasibility Study and Rail Review should both be completed at same time
    • Galway East Greenway support now massive with 22,000 on-line petitioners and 10,000 members of ‘Quiet Man Greenway group’[/B]

    A spokesman for the Western Rail Trail Campaign, a community-based movement to preserve the alignment of the closed rail line from Athenry to Collooney by utilising the route for tourism and leisure as a greenway until such time as a railway may be possible, today said; ‘we have learned from Irish Rail that the process of completing the report into the future of the closed railway from Athenry to Claremorris could take longer than we expected, and may not be completed before late 2019’.

    The project manager of the report at Irish Rail has advised the campaign that the Terms of Reference for the Rail Review Report have now been sent to the Department of Transport for approval. Irish Rail say it will be mid-December before the independent consultant is appointed to conduct the review of the closed railway.

    ‘We realise due process has to be followed but it is getting a bit frustrating’ said the spokesperson of the Western Rail Trail campaign. ‘If the independent consultant is not appointed until December 2018 these things have a habit of dragging on’ the spokesperson continued. ‘This is the report the former independent Alliance Minister Sean Canney TD insisted on being completed within six months of his giving support to the government. Mr Canney is no longer in government and failed to deliver on his promise of this review. It always seems to be ‘let’s wait for a report’. Why is that? Is this report just being delayed in order to smother debate on the greenway option?’

    With the rail review report unlikely to see light of day until the end of 2019, this now makes the vote in favour of a feasibility study for a greenway on the closed railway at Galway County Council on September 24th all the more important. ‘The railway review and Greenway feasibility should both be done at the same time’ said the spokesperson ‘There is no reason for the motion in favour of a feasibility study to be blocked, the rail report and the greenway feasibility study can be completed and then a decision can be made. One report is not dependent on the other’, added the spokesperson.

    The campaign for a greenway from Athenry to Sligo is attracting growing support. The on-line petition in support of the greenway has risen to 22,000 signatures. ‘What is really amazing over the last few months’ said teh spokesperson ‘has been the massive increase in support for the campaign in Galway. The local Galway campaign group have named the Galway section of the Greenway ‘The Quiet Man Greenway’ and the Quiet Man Greenway Facebook group created to support the campaign has risen to over 10,000 members.

    ‘The support in Galway East in towns like Tuam Athenry and Milltown is nothing short of phenomenal’ said spokesperson ’ and there is little doubt this has the potential to be a huge issue in the local elections in May 2019’.

    ENDS: body text 486 words
    Contacts: Westtip (some of you may know his name!!)
    Find us on Facebook: sligomayogreenwaycampaign[/QUOTE]

    LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    marno21 wrote: »
    I think the Midleton-Youghal railway is more viable. There is a serious drive in Cork to densify the city centre and have a vibrant city full of workers, and with people living nearby in the Docklands. That will require a major modal shift to public transport

    Marno21 you have my respect for standing up for your region and calling for infrastructural investment there, good for you.

    See this just proves its not a bike track that is your priority but blocking Western infrastructural advancement so that your region gets a jump. I really hope the people in the counties of Donegal, Sligo, Mayo and Galway are able to see who there are so many outside of your region signing petitions for a bike track in your region.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    voz es wrote: »
    Currently the Grid locked Galway city has been well exposed to calls for a light rail/ tram like system in their city. There is the well publicised ring road that is the very final ring road that they will be able to get. major lakes are to the north of the city making a further outer ring road unviable. In twenty years time with further expansion the ONLY answer will be light or under ground rail around the city. Of course we should be providing the infrastructure to link up with that. Unfortunately, GCC suffers from the fall out of short term politics.


    Thus, your argument is blinkered as the point of view that all the same folks who are here fighting for a bike track now, wont be fighting to keep it of have another ball of money spent on building a track on land that should be supported right now or for the hypothetical bike track to remain.

    The NTA have made it clear that light rail is not the solution for Galway city and will not be going ahead. Thus Galway will be relying on the bus

    People from Tuam are not going to get a train via Athenry to Ceannt Station and then get a bus. Especially when this solution requires major capital spending


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    marno21 wrote: »
    The NTA have made it clear that light rail is not the solution for Galway city and will not be going ahead. Thus Galway will be relying on the bus

    People from Tuam are not going to get a train via Athenry to Ceannt Station and then get a bus. Especially when this solution requires major capital spending

    Did you know that the line in completion would have travelled to Letterkenny once,well past Tuam. However, with regard to light rail

    The NTA hey, do you reckon it was Jackie Healy Ray or the folks in charge of the roads that decided to put that fine big road into your own county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Galway Cycling Campaign - FEACHTAS ROTHAIOCHTA NA GAILLIMHE

    Press release in my email inbox this morning.

    News Release - 18 September 2018

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    HEADLINES

    Athenry Tuam Greenway is Galway's only chance for foreseeable future say Cycle Campaigners

    MAIN BODY

    The Galway Cycling Campaign is writing to all the county councillors calling on them to support a feasibility study into the use of the disused Athenry - Tuam - Miltown railway as a Greenway. The cyclists say the Athenry to Miltown proposals are Galway's best chance to achieve a long distance cycling and walking amenity for the county for the foreseeable future. They say that little progress can be expected on either the Connemara Greenway or the Dublin-Galway proposals following the publication of a fundamentally flawed Government Greenway Strategy last July.

    According to the campaigners Athenry to Tuam is effectively "tarmac ready" with no questions about land ownership and with CIE, the single land owner, amenable to granting a licence for the use of the route. CIE have also stated that the corridor could be converted back to railway use if needed.

    In contrast they raise the "Strategy for the Future Development of National and Regional Greenways" published last July which they describe as fundamentally flawed and implies more conflict with private landowners who are a key stakeholder group. The overwhelming focus of the strategy document is on "constructing" greenways as new roads through lands. The focus on constructing new roads through lands assures more conflict with landowners on the Dublin-Galway route and that little progress can be expected here for the foreseeable future. The public consultation guidelines provided with the Greenway Strategy put consultation with landowners as the last step in the process. According to the cycling campaign this assures more conflict with landowners. The same issue will arise with those sections of the Connemara Greenway where there has been no agreement to date.

    "Given the profoundly flawed nature of the Greenway Strategy our view is that Athenry-Tuam now represents the best chance for a long-distance Greenway in Galway." stated Shane Foran for the campaign. "For the moment the best thing for Connemara and East Galway is a cooling off period to reduce tension" he continued "if built the Athenry Tuam Greenway will need connections to other places in the county and these will naturally grow to link towards both Dublin and Connemara."

    ENDS

    Reference

    http://www.dttas.ie/tourism/publications/english/strategy-future-development-national-and-regional-greenways

    Comment: Despite various attempts at more positive language the consultation process given at the back of the document puts discussions with landowners at the bottom of the list.

    Background reading
    http://www.galwaycycling.org/july-2017-greenway-consultation-is-misconceived-and-should-be-set-aside/

    http://www.galwaycycling.org/december-2016-eurovelo-2-galway-moscow-department-consultation-sets-up-more-conflict-with-local-communities/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Galway Cycling Campaign - FEACHTAS ROTHAIOCHTA NA GAILLIMHE

    Press release in my email inbox this morning.

    News Release - 18 September 2018

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    HEADLINES

    Athenry Tuam Greenway is Galway's only chance for foreseeable future say Cycle Campaigners

    MAIN BODY

    The Galway Cycling Campaign is writing to all the county councillors calling on them to support a feasibility study into the use of the disused Athenry - Tuam - Miltown railway as a Greenway. The cyclists say the Athenry to Miltown proposals are Galway's best chance to achieve a long distance cycling and walking amenity for the county for the foreseeable future. They say that little progress can be expected on either the Connemara Greenway or the Dublin-Galway proposals following the publication of a fundamentally flawed Government Greenway Strategy last July.

    According to the campaigners Athenry to Tuam is effectively "tarmac ready" with no questions about land ownership and with CIE, the single land owner, amenable to granting a licence for the use of the route. CIE have also stated that the corridor could be converted back to railway use if needed.

    In contrast they raise the "Strategy for the Future Development of National and Regional Greenways" published last July which they describe as fundamentally flawed and implies more conflict with private landowners who are a key stakeholder group. The overwhelming focus of the strategy document is on "constructing" greenways as new roads through lands. The focus on constructing new roads through lands assures more conflict with landowners on the Dublin-Galway route and that little progress can be expected here for the foreseeable future. The public consultation guidelines provided with the Greenway Strategy put consultation with landowners as the last step in the process. According to the cycling campaign this assures more conflict with landowners. The same issue will arise with those sections of the Connemara Greenway where there has been no agreement to date.

    "Given the profoundly flawed nature of the Greenway Strategy our view is that Athenry-Tuam now represents the best chance for a long-distance Greenway in Galway." stated Shane Foran for the campaign. "For the moment the best thing for Connemara and East Galway is a cooling off period to reduce tension" he continued "if built the Athenry Tuam Greenway will need connections to other places in the county and these will naturally grow to link towards both Dublin and Connemara."

    ENDS

    Reference

    http://www.dttas.ie/tourism/publications/english/strategy-future-development-national-and-regional-greenways

    Comment: Despite various attempts at more positive language the consultation process given at the back of the document puts discussions with landowners at the bottom of the list.

    Background reading
    http://www.galwaycycling.org/july-2017-greenway-consultation-is-misconceived-and-should-be-set-aside/

    http://www.galwaycycling.org/december-2016-eurovelo-2-galway-moscow-department-consultation-sets-up-more-conflict-with-local-communities/

    It is very well worth noting that one of the authors behind that dittas report asked for submissions on the western rail corridor and is not backing it since.

    Fantastic news here and I think you will find that there is a fine big lump on land at connemara national park for your plan B:
    www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2018/08/30/4161174-work-starts-on-new-west-mayo-greenway-trail/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Galway Cycling Campaign - FEACHTAS ROTHAIOCHTA NA GAILLIMHE

    Press release in my email inbox this morning.

    News Release - 18 September 2018

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    HEADLINES

    Athenry Tuam Greenway is Galway's only chance for foreseeable future say Cycle Campaigners

    MAIN BODY

    The Galway Cycling Campaign is writing to all the county councillors calling on them to support a feasibility study into the use of the disused Athenry - Tuam - Miltown railway as a Greenway. The cyclists say the Athenry to Miltown proposals are Galway's best chance to achieve a long distance cycling and walking amenity for the county for the foreseeable future. They say that little progress can be expected on either the Connemara Greenway or the Dublin-Galway proposals following the publication of a fundamentally flawed Government Greenway Strategy last July.

    According to the campaigners Athenry to Tuam is effectively "tarmac ready" with no questions about land ownership and with CIE, the single land owner, amenable to granting a licence for the use of the route. CIE have also stated that the corridor could be converted back to railway use if needed.

    In contrast they raise the "Strategy for the Future Development of National and Regional Greenways" published last July which they describe as fundamentally flawed and implies more conflict with private landowners who are a key stakeholder group. The overwhelming focus of the strategy document is on "constructing" greenways as new roads through lands. The focus on constructing new roads through lands assures more conflict with landowners on the Dublin-Galway route and that little progress can be expected here for the foreseeable future. The public consultation guidelines provided with the Greenway Strategy put consultation with landowners as the last step in the process. According to the cycling campaign this assures more conflict with landowners. The same issue will arise with those sections of the Connemara Greenway where there has been no agreement to date.

    "Given the profoundly flawed nature of the Greenway Strategy our view is that Athenry-Tuam now represents the best chance for a long-distance Greenway in Galway." stated Shane Foran for the campaign. "For the moment the best thing for Connemara and East Galway is a cooling off period to reduce tension" he continued "if built the Athenry Tuam Greenway will need connections to other places in the county and these will naturally grow to link towards both Dublin and Connemara."

    ENDS

    Reference

    http://www.dttas.ie/tourism/publications/english/strategy-future-development-national-and-regional-greenways

    Comment: Despite various attempts at more positive language the consultation process given at the back of the document puts discussions with landowners at the bottom of the list.

    Background reading
    http://www.galwaycycling.org/july-2017-greenway-consultation-is-misconceived-and-should-be-set-aside/

    http://www.galwaycycling.org/december-2016-eurovelo-2-galway-moscow-department-consultation-sets-up-more-conflict-with-local-communities/
    Why are you not you baking a river suck green way? Thes a big under developed region of galway for sure


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Muckyboots


    voz es wrote: »
    Why are you not you baking a river suck green way? Thes a big under developed region of galway for sure

    You might be confusing state ownership with riparian rights of way. River banks are private property. CPOs and all that jazz..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The tide is changing. The following was just posted to the Quiet Man Greenway group on Facebook by Minister Ciaran Cannon
    WONDERFUL NEWS FOR ALL 10,000 OF US

    Loughrea based independent Councillor Pat Hynes has just released this statement. We are deeply indebted to him for acknowledging the depth of feeling that exists within our local communities on this issue and for committing to supporting our feasibility study next Monday. Thank you Cllr. Hynes. You can text a “Thank You” to him on 0872404404.

    “Loughrea-based Councillor to vote in favour of greenway feasibility study

    Loughrea`s Councillor Pat Hynes is to vote in favour of next Monday`s feasibility study for the Quiet Man Greenway.

    Councillor Hynes said “While I am a supporter of the eventual re-opening of the rail line north of Athenry, I am first and foremost a public representative and as such, I have always endeavoured to listen to the views of my constituents”

    “Therefore, I cannot ignore the widespread support that the Quiet Man Greenway project has received, not just in Athenry, Milltown and Tuam, but across our county with support from all generations of people including sports clubs, schools and the business community”.

    “This support is more than evident”.

    “I am mindful of the statement issued recently by Minister Ciaran Cannon that the Board of CIE, when entering into a licencing agreement with a local authority for the development of a greenway on CIE lands, always includes a clause requiring that the licence can be revoked at any time if the Board has alternative plans for the lands”.

    “I also note that such a clause has already been used in the licences issued for the Waterford and Westmeath greenways and that there is no reason why that would not happen in the instance of the proposed Quiet Man Greenway”.

    “For these reasons I will be voting in favour of the proposed feasibility study at next Monday`s Council meeting”.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Muckyboots wrote: »
    You might be confusing state ownership with riparian rights of way. River banks are private property. CPOs and all that jazz..

    Yep, Compulsory Purchase orders there is an idea and concept behind that terminology.

    And if you would like to get into the nuts and bolts of Freehold titles and its limitations, I hold quite a lot of experience in that field.

    So tell me more about your concepts with regard to CPO's and why you feel that a Greenway in this location would not be a justifiable reason for such an action.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Muckyboots wrote: »
    You might be confusing state ownership with riparian rights of way. River banks are private property. CPOs and all that jazz..

    Fair point. Except the King of Greenways, Mayo's Great Western Greenway, managed just fine the non CPO way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    voz es wrote: »
    Fantastic news here and I think you will find that there is a fine big lump on land at connemara national park for your plan B:
    www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2018/08/30/4161174-work-starts-on-new-west-mayo-greenway-trail/

    On the trackbed of the Lord Altamount and Reek Sunday Light Railway, I do believe :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Fair point. Except the King of Greenways, Mayo's Great Western Greenway, managed just fine the non CPO way.
    It didn't, it's been plagued with post construction dissent from landowners, including one extended closure because of an unrelated issue.
    The problems that arose in Mayo are the reason why the new greenway strategy leans away from the permissive access model.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And another Galway County Councillor, Jim Cuddy, changes from a No to a Yes vote.

    The following posted on The Quiet Man Greenway facebook group a short while ago
    Our deep gratitude to Cllr. Jim Cuddy who has confirmed this evening to one of our campaign members, Fidelma Nunn, that he will be supporting our feasibility study next Monday. Jim is a hard working Councillor who always puts the interest of our local communities at the heart of everything that he does. Thanks Cllr. Cuddy. Please text your message of thanks to him at *(087) 636 0242‬. Thanks also to Fidelma Nunn for taking the time to email Cllr. Cuddy.
    42168886_10156639971968917_8510317524808630272_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=3e6e3a65af9c7e91cc100c3e5774b651&oe=5C1C5C8C


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    And another Galway County Councillor, Jim Cuddy, changes from a No to a Yes vote.

    The following posted on The Quiet Man Greenway facebook group a short while ago
    It now appears that a lot of Galway councillors are taking courage from each other and overcoming the collective stagnation that had them opposing the logical approach. No doubt they are also concerned at the huge surge of public opinion that threatens to oust a few of them at next year's polls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    eastwest wrote: »
    It now appears that a lot of Galway councillors are taking courage from each other and overcoming the collective stagnation that had them opposing the logical approach. No doubt they are also concerned at the huge surge of public opinion that threatens to oust a few of them at next year's polls.

    What??? Politicians acting in self interest? :D

    Just to ask, what will the feasibility study achieve? Will it give impetus to the greenway being created?

    Or will Athenry and Galway county miss out on something again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Corca Baiscinn


    Galway Cycling Campaign - FEACHTAS ROTHAIOCHTA NA GAILLIMHE

    Press release in my email inbox this morning.

    News Release - 18 September 2018

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    HEADLINES

    Athenry Tuam Greenway is Galway's only chance for foreseeable future say Cycle Campaigners

    MAIN BODY

    .....The cyclists say the Athenry to Miltown proposals are Galway's best chance to achieve a long distance cycling and walking amenity for the county for the foreseeable future. They say that little progress can be expected on either the Connemara Greenway or the Dublin-Galway proposals following the publication of a fundamentally flawed Government Greenway Strategy last July.

    In contrast they raise the "Strategy for the Future Development of National and Regional Greenways" published last July which they describe as fundamentally flawed and implies more conflict with private landowners who are a key stakeholder group. ...... The public consultation guidelines provided with the Greenway Strategy put consultation with landowners as the last step in the process. According to the cycling campaign this assures more conflict with landowners. The same issue will arise with those sections of the Connemara Greenway where there has been no agreement to date.


    ENDS

    Reference

    http://www.dttas.ie/tourism/publications/english/strategy-future-development-national-and-regional-greenways

    Comment: Despite various attempts at more positive language the consultation process given at the back of the document puts discussions with landowners at the bottom of the list.

    Background reading
    http://www.galwaycycling.org/july-2017-greenway-consultation-is-misconceived-and-should-be-set-aside/

    Galway Cycling Camaign are right that TII made a hames of the consultation process re Dub/Galway Greenway nd great taht they support the WRC one but I dont buy their reasoning re - "support this one because the other potential Galway ones wont work due to the flawed Greenway Strategy" It's true that consultation with individual landowners is no 4 on the consultation guidelines but 1st sentence in no 2 is "Every effort should be made to devise a route that maximises the support of the community and potentially affected
    landowners" No 1. is about the overall route choice so you have to have some idea where you what to go before you know which landowners will be affected. The Application form for funding has 27 questions and numbers 8 to 14 are about the consultation process engaged in by the applicant. The funding Criteria Guidelines issued with the application form under
    Project Development, Consultation, Planning and Design Status starts
    Projects that meet the criteria and are most likely to be delivered in the near future will be best placed to be allocated funding. Therefore projects that have comprehensively developed their route through local consultation and have the requisite support and buy-in, have clarity regarding access to the land on which the Greenway will be built as well a shaving planning permission in place, or that are expected to have planning permission in place within the first quarter of 2019, will be a stronger position for this round of funding.
    Projects seeking funding will need to describe the consultative process undertaken and provide clarity on mitigation measures to be provided to landowners and attempts to minimise severance of landholdings.
    Have never seen myself as a cheer-leader for DTASS under Shane Ross but I think the above shows they have learned something form the Galway debacle

    http://www.dttas.ie/sites/default/files/publications/tourism/english/greenways-strategy-outline-funding-criteria/greenways-strategy-outline-funding-criteria.pdf

    http://www.dttas.ie/tourism/publications/english/greenways-application-form


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    What??? Politicians acting in self interest? :D

    Just to ask, what will the feasibility study achieve? Will it give impetus to the greenway being created?

    Or will Athenry and Galway county miss out on something again?
    The study is a necessary step in the funding process.
    But never underestimate the wheeling and dealing that comes into play when projects are looking for funding. Claremorris chamber of Commerce in mayo has apparently been lobbying Galway councillors to vote against the study. I suppose the less funding that goes to Galway, the more there is for Michael Ring to spend in mayo.
    Athenry tends to be well back in the queue for everything, and Tuam isn't even lined up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    eastwest wrote: »
    The study is a necessary step in the funding process.
    But never underestimate the wheeling and dealing that comes into play when projects are looking for funding. Claremorris chamber of Commerce in mayo has apparently been lobbying Galway councillors to vote against the study. I suppose the less funding that goes to Galway, the more there is for Michael Ring to spend in mayo.
    Athenry tends to be well back in the queue for everything, and Tuam isn't even lined up.

    True, Tuam isn't even getting the chance to have their Apple Data Centre turned down.

    Poor bastids. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Unbelievable Turn out in Tuam today sure more pics and notices will be put up, just got in worth the round trip from County Sligo today was momentus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    westtip wrote: »
    Unbelievable Turn out in Tuam today sure more pics and notices will be put up, just got in worth the round trip from County Sligo today was momentus.
    Will be on TG4 News tonight.
    https://twitter.com/Curraighin/status/1043879143698571264
    "
    Cúpla míle duine ag léiriú tacaíochta do Bhealach Glas ‘The Quiet Man’ i dTuaim @NuachtTG4 Several thousand at Tuam rally in support of Athenry to Milltown Greenway
    "


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Will be on TG4 News tonight.
    https://twitter.com/Curraighin/status/1043879143698571264
    "
    Cúpla míle duine ag léiriú tacaíochta do Bhealach Glas ‘The Quiet Man’ i dTuaim @NuachtTG4 Several thousand at Tuam rally in support of Athenry to Milltown Greenway
    "

    Someone in Claremorris will be spitting venom in irish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭serfboard


    westtip wrote: »
    Unbelievable Turn out in Tuam today sure more pics and notices will be put up, just got in worth the round trip from County Sligo today was momentus.
    Some photos from today


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    serfboard wrote: »
    Some photos from today

    Great support


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Great support

    Councillors who ignore thousands of people have obviously decided that politics is not for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭serfboard




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  • Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Corca Baiscinn


    Great support

    Agreed but this was final event before the councillors vote re feasibility study tomorrow and was preceded by a intensive well-organised campaign contacting "Yes" & "No" councillors by text & posting on the quiet Man FB page.. Assuming result tomorrow is positive its a fantastic example of people-power or how those of us who spend a lot of time venting on Social Media also need to be tactical and link our vote to what we need cycling-wise, Their FB page is inspirational. Probably helps too that there is cross-party support with Ciaran Canon and Anne Rabbitte on same page


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