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Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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    #7262
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    The anti-choice zombie worshipping muppets have again shown their true colours.

    They behaved like scumbags during the divorce,SSM referendums so it isn't a surprise they behave the same way after abortion was legalised.



    Probably just worried the pool of children for the church to abuse is dwindling.....

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

    https://www.btselem.org/



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    #7263
    LorelaiG
    Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    BBFAN wrote: »
    Because the yellow office is a completely honest one? Don't think so. :rolleyes:

    Much more honest than the one next to it. Questionable at best to open a rogue crisis pregnancy agency right next door to an actual crisis pregnancy agency


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    #7264
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,084 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Oh they'll be along shortly, don't doubt it.

    I dunno, even if they were prepared to defend this carry-on on 'ethical' grounds, the whole thing is so stupid and self-defeating and damaging to the image of 'pro-life', they have to admit those involved are complete tools even if they were claiming their hearts were in the right place...


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    #7265
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,170 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If he gets arrested, pleading insanity is a shoo-in.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7266
    volchitsa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,034 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I dunno, even if they were prepared to defend this carry-on on 'ethical' grounds, the whole thing is so stupid and self-defeating and damaging to the image of 'pro-life', they have to admit those involved are complete tools even if they were claiming their hearts were in the right place...

    I'm really not sure of that. Unless we think the guy is a one-man outfit who's not only paying the rent and utilities on that office, but also manning the phones unpaid, then someone is funding him. Or even them. So he's not that much of a maverick among prolifers it would seem.

    But I agree with you that it will be disastrous in terms of public support among all but the most extreme of them. That extreme does exist though, is my point, and people need to be mindful of just how far they can go.


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    #7267
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,170 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    BBFAN wrote: »
    Because the yellow office is a completely honest one? Don't think so. :rolleyes:

    What do you mean by that?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7268
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,228 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    BBFAN wrote: »
    Because the yellow office is a completely honest one? Don't think so. rolleyes.png
    What do you mean by that?




    This is the website of the place next door. It seems legit to me if a little out of date as it doesn't mention the legalisation of abortion in ireland.


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    #7269
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Pro-Life protesters outside Drogheda Hospital after "receiving reliable information" that abortions are taking place there today. Where are they getting this information from :confused:

    Sickos

    https://www.thejournal.ie/abortion-protest-2-4472155-Feb2019/


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    #7270
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    OK, enough is enough. If these fcukers are stating that they are getting 'reliable information ' surely the guards can question them to disclose their source?
    Who can we lobby to ensure a proper investigation of these illegal data breaches.?


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    #7271
    pleasant Co.
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    OK, enough is enough. If these fcukers are stating that they are getting 'reliable information ' surely the guards can question them to disclose their source?
    Who can we lobby to ensure a proper investigation of these illegal data breaches.?

    Just on this particular one you're quoting from, where is the illegal data breach? I understand that yesterdays creepy pasta seems quite possibly to have been a breach, but this one you'll have to outline for me as all I'm seeing here is a yob looking for, and getting, attention.


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    #7272
    Johnny Red Cab
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Johnny Red Cab


    https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2019/0201/1026924-hse-investiagtion/

    It seems someone is leaking private information to pro life extremists.
    The Health Service Executive is investigating an alleged breach of patient information after a woman who had a termination at the National Maternity Hospital in Holles Street in Dublin claimed she was subsequently contacted by anti-abortion activists.


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    #7273
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,228 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pleasant Co. wrote: »
    Just on this particular one you're quoting from, where is the illegal data breach? I understand that yesterdays creepy pasta seems quite possibly to have been a breach, but this one you'll have to outline for me as all I'm seeing here is a yob looking for, and getting, attention.

    Pro-Life protesters outside Drogheda Hospital after "receiving reliable information" that abortions are taking place there today


    So the questions are:


    Did they actually receive this data?
    Who did they receive it from?


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    #7274
    Dial Hard
    Registered Users Posts: 13,441 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    So the questions are:


    Did they actually receive this data?
    Who did they receive it from?

    Bit more detail in this article, where professional crank Charles Byrne pretty much admits that they're getting information from inside the hospital.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/abortion-protest-2-4472155-Feb2019/
    He said that people are providing information to him and, in relation to whether they do so anonymously or not, he said:

    "You get some texts but we do have people kind of on the grapevine."

    He said he did not want to name anyone who was providing information.

    When it was put to him that there must be staff in the hospital giving information he said that there were, but did not want to give any names, saying:

    "I don’t want to get anyone in trouble."


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    #7275
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Bit more detail in this article, where professional crank Charles Byrne pretty much admits that they're getting information from inside the hospital.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/abortion-protest-2-4472155-Feb2019/


    Even if their source was only one person who has no further access to information (maybe friend/family member of the woman who was contacted), the anti-choice brigade will claim that they still have access to all sorts of highly confidential information.

    They want women to be afraid, they wantwomen to be paranoid. They want women to believe that their private medical information is known to people like them.

    Shame and fear are, after all, their strongest and most familiar tools.


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    #7276
    Johnny Red Cab
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Johnny Red Cab


    They deserve jail for this.


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    #7277
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I think it's FUAD from the GW Bush days, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It may be they're just deciding to show up and start spreading rumors about abortions happening that day. Lies and deceit being their stock in trade, this would be the simplest explanation.

    More now than ever the anti-blockading laws the government's bandied about have to become more than threats. Lock them up!


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    #7278
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    This is the website of the place next door. It seems legit to me if a little out of date as it doesn't mention the legalisation of abortion in ireland.

    I don't see any website link there?


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    #7279
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,170 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Probably unlikely. But it is possible that someone is trolling them by getting them to turn up on days they know that NO abortions are scheduled to take place :pac:

    Especially if it's freezin!!!

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7280
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,228 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    BBFAN wrote: »
    I don't see any website link there?

    http://www.reproductivechoices.ie/


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    #7281
    Johnny Red Cab
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Johnny Red Cab


    It is Ironic that for a pro life mob they offer vasectomies.


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    #7282
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,228 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Johnny Red Cab wrote: »
    It is Ironic that for a pro life mob they offer vasectomies.

    That is the website for the place next door. I'm not sure they are a pro-life crowd.


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    #7283
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    http://www.reproductivechoices.ie/

    Okay, maybe it is genuine, I just don't know though, hard to trust any of these places now.


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    #7284
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    http://www.reproductivechoices.ie/

    Apparently it's still illegal to take abortion pills in Ireland, or to seek an abortion for rape or incest, and several of their pages are about how to go abroad to access abortions. Are they even still in business?


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    #7285
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,228 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Apparently it's still illegal to take abortion pills in , or to seek an abortion for rape or incest, and several of their pages are about how to go abroad to access abortions. Are they even still in business?

    Possibly not. Though they were aware of the place next door and warned people against it.

    http://www.reproductivechoices.ie/trusted-agencies
    Please know that the organisation which is next door to us –the blue building before the bicycle shop- is not pro-choice and is the one featured in the recent Times newspaper.


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    #7286
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Johnny Red Cab wrote: »
    It is Ironic that for a pro life mob they offer vasectomies.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

    Couldn't help but think of this


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    #7287
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,543 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    seamus wrote: »

    Should still be followed up by the DPC and HSE though. They should have logs of every time a patient file is accessed (though they probably don't)
    With a paper file in a brown folder, it's pretty difficult to audit accesses.


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    #7288
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    With a paper file in a brown folder, it's pretty difficult to audit accesses.

    Would still need to be accessed to be printed unless you're indicating that the person providing the information has access to the physical file which reduces the number.


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    #7289
    Infini
    Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Johnny Red Cab wrote: »
    They deserve jail for this.

    Should threaten the hospital with the GDPR as well if there's an unwillingless to deal with people leaking personal information like that too. Ringing up someone like that just to be able to go screaming abuse at women to soothe their precious ego? They seem to forget that other's could play that game as well and those giving abuse could find themselves doxxed and getting abuse back in turn or worse. They need to find those involved and put an end to it quickly.


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    #7290
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,543 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Would still need to be accessed to be printed unless you're indicating that the person providing the information has access to the physical file which reduces the number.
    Why would it need to be printed? All it takes is for someone who sees the file to remember a name and phone number, or maybe even take a photo with their own phone of the relevant pages.


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    #7291
    kylith
    Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Bit more detail in this article, where professional crank Charles Byrne pretty much admits that they're getting information from inside the hospital.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/abortion-protest-2-4472155-Feb2019/
    Can he be questioned re: GDPR breach and done for obstruction if he won't say where he's getting the information?


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