Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

The Golden Miller

amcalester wrote: »

Didn’t more of the No side make their minds up before campaigning?

Thought I saw that earlier.

I guess there was many on both sides who had their minds made up, but I do believe many of the No side do have concern of women. I think the fact we don't interact with the unborn and it's out of sight, made it far easier for the yes to over-arch their campaign with little mention of another life, or indeed concern for them

Trasna1

sdanseo wrote: »

I'm a bit confused by the "Home to Vote" thing. The DFA clearly says on its website that people must be ordinarily resident in Ireland to be on the register of electors.
Yet many politicians seem to be openly endorsing it and the rule seems to be wholsale ignored and unenforced.

I do support citizens being allowed to return and vote for referenda by the way. It just seems strange that unless I'm missing something, there seems to be so much flouting of a pretty basic law to an extent that could well have influence the result (although not significantly enough to affect the outcome).

I don't support citizens voting here that are not eligible and I find it particularly wrong that people can swan back here, cast a vote (essentially telling us what laws we should live under) and **** off again. The excuse that they might come back in the future doesn't cut it either. They are more than welcome to campaign for changes in the law when they do become resident again.

This is what I don't understand about #hometovote: if the win is large enough than their participation in the vote doesn't matter -it just clocks up unnecessarily air miles. However if the margin is tight enough where it does matter, then hometovote brings the result into disrepute and subject to court challenge.

It's social media and this drive to be part of something larger, a community, a movement that drives this - and it's self serving selfish nonsense. These people are essentially telling us ""we don't care about your laws, my desire to be part of this is more important than that"

amcalester

Sheeps wrote: »

Where did I say forced?

Suggested?

Or optional?

Or what?

Fighting Tao

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Can you point to where I said I sought a 3rd referendum?

I believe in democracy and I believe in a persons right to have an opposing opinion and their right to be right or wrong in the opinion.

I thought you wanted another televised debate. For this topic they generally only occur when a referendum does.

Sheeps

amcalester wrote: »

Suggested?

Or optional?

Or what?

You give the the option. You know incentivise people to be aware of if they're pregnant or not by giving them free sex education and pregnancy tests so that if it is unwanted, it can be terminated before it reaches a stage of development where it takes human form.

Fighting Tao

Sheeps wrote: »

Do women often go 10 weeks with out a period and think it's normal?

You declared yourself well educated so you tell me.

swampgas

I actually voted in the poll that I thought No would win, as I was worried that the No campaign might actually work (Brexit, Trump ...). And the thought of a No win sickened me, and the thought of a narrow win for Yes was depressing too, as it would have meant that the legislation might not get passed by the Dáil. I dearly wanted a clear Yes vote, but was afraid to hope it might happen.

Seeing that first exit poll was ... emotional. Seeing it confirmed, was wonderful.

Looking ahead, to what happens next. My local TD will be getting regular emails about the need for prompt action on the legislation, and I will be sure to get myself back on the NUI register for Seanad elections. There is a certain senator that will not be getting my vote.

abitofboth

An awful day for the Irish state.

January

Sheeps wrote: »

Maybe they should be being educated about missed periods and given free pregnancy tests in that case? There's no reason it should take that long to figure out that you're pregnant.

What so take a pregnancy test every week?

I haven't had a period in 2 years thanks to my contraception. If I found out I was pregnant tomorrow I wouldn't have a clue how far along I was. So I should just take a pregnancy test every week to make sure I'm not pregnant is it?

GerryCarry

I agree with Declan Ganley, as of today the Rep. of Ireland is now a rogue state using tax payers money to kill innocent unborn children. No difference to Nazi Germany using tax payers money to kill innocent Jews.

I woulnd't have recognized Nazi Germany, and now i don't recognize the Irish State.

As of May 25th 2018:

- I don't recognize the Irish State
- I don't recognize Dail Eireann
- And i don't recognize Bunreacht na hEireann (no problem swearing on it in a court of law as it means nothing)

I didn't even want to vote as it was an illegal referendum in the first place (you can't vote on whether to kill innocent babies).

I will be finding ways to pay as little tax to the Irish government as possible from now on (just enough to avoid being put in jail). Wont be paying my TV license as i fear the money will be used to pay for workers to staff the incinerators that kill innocent babies.

Sheeps

The yes side is a constant circle jerk of putting words the no sides mouth so they can self congratulate one another. There was never any real debate during this referendum. Populism from the left.

Fr Tod Umptious

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

SH : Won a key debate at a crucial point in the campaign.
LV : I think you're exaggerating the hailed as loveable hero part : But in general he is probably the most successful Taoiseach of any of our lifetimes, low bar as that is.

I'm a FG voter and wish Leo all the best as Taoiseach and part leader, but the bit in bold is a bit of a stretch.

Fighting Tao

abitofboth wrote: »

An awful day for the Irish state.

An awful day for the old Irish state of mind.

amcalester

Sheeps wrote: »

You give the the option. You know incentivise people to be aware of if they're pregnant or not by giving them free sex education and pregnancy tests so that if it is unwanted, it can be terminated before it reaches a stage of development where it takes human form.

I actually agree 100%, 12 weeks is the maximum not the minimum so most will take place well before then but some may be right up to the limit because it’s not an easy decision to make.

Putting a shorter time limit onto it may result in women making a rushed decision.

Overheal

Sheeps wrote: »

The yes side is a constant circle jerk of putting words the no sides mouth so they can self congratulate one another. There was never any real debate during this referendum. Populism from the left.

ahem...: "baby killer!" "murderer!" "sinner!" "slut!" "whore!" etc.

ziedth

Just saw Katie Ascough's statement on facebook there...... for some reason all i could think of when someone gets voted off X-Factor and they always say "This isn't the last you've heard of me..."

fxotoole

abitofboth wrote: »

An awful day for the Irish state.

Welcome to boards, newly registered user

amcalester

ziedth wrote: »

Just saw Katie Ascough's statement on facebook there...... for some reason all i could think of when someone gets voted off X-Factor and they always say "This isn't the last you've heard of me..."

...I made the BBC...

Fighting Tao

GerryCarry wrote: »

I agree with Declan Ganley, as of today the Rep. of Ireland is now a rogue state using tax payers money to kill innocent unborn children. No difference to Nazi Germany using tax payers money to kill innocent Jews.

I woulnd't have recognized Nazi Germany, and now i don't recognize the Irish State.

As of May 25th 2018:

- I don't recognize the Irish State
- I don't recognize Dail Eireann
- And i don't recognize Bunreacht na hEireann (no problem swearing on it in a court of law as it means nothing)

I didn't even want to vote as it was an illegal referendum in the first place (you can't vote on whether to kill innocent babies).

I will be finding ways to pay as little tax to the Irish government as possible from now on (just enough to avoid being put in jail). Wont be paying my TV license as i fear the money will be used to pay for workers to staff the incinerators that kill innocent babies.

That made me LOL.

Water John

Gerry you probably don't live in the country so pay you're taxes to Uncle Sam.
Welcome to Boards.

uck51js9zml2yt

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I thought you wanted another televised debate. For this topic they generally only occur when a referendum does.

Ok, so you've not been able to point to where I said I sought a 3rd referendum

Can you point to where I said I wanted another televised debate?

fxotoole

GerryCarry wrote: »

I agree with Declan Ganley, as of today the Rep. of Ireland is now a rogue state using tax payers money to kill innocent unborn children. No difference to Nazi Germany using tax payers money to kill innocent Jews.

I woulnd't have recognized Nazi Germany, and now i don't recognize the Irish State.

As of May 25th 2018:

- I don't recognize the Irish State
- I don't recognize Dail Eireann
- And i don't recognize Bunreacht na hEireann (no problem swearing on it in a court of law as it means nothing)

I didn't even want to vote as it was an illegal referendum in the first place (you can't vote on whether to kill innocent babies).

I will be finding ways to pay as little tax to the Irish government as possible from now on (just enough to avoid being put in jail). Wont be paying my TV license as i fear the money will be used to pay for workers to staff the incinerators that kill innocent babies.

Nice first post. Welcome to boards

freshpopcorn

ziedth wrote: »

Just saw Katie Ascough's statement on facebook there...... for some reason all i could think of when someone gets voted off X-Factor and they always say "This isn't the last you've heard of me..."

I suppose her fan bass is Youth 2000/Youth Defense. She'll probably go on the lead one of these!

AtomicHorror

Sheeps wrote: »

Do women often go 10 weeks with out a period and think it's normal?

I read this in the voice of the Tracker Mortgage Man.

Fighting Tao

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Ok, so you've not been able to point to where I said I sought a 3rd referendum

Can you point to where I said I wanted another televised debate?

You wanted to start the debate all over again. It’s over. It will not be back on the table ever. Ireland has moved on. Thankfully!

retro:electro

Sheeps wrote: »

Maybe they should be being educated about missed periods and given free pregnancy tests in that case? There's no reason it should take that long to figure out that you're pregnant.

This is amazing. This is what happens when men think they know more about my body then I do. I’ve often gone 6mths+ without a period due to medication/contraception/stress/other reasons that are none of your business.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.

uck51js9zml2yt

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I suppose her fan bass is Youth 2000/Youth Defense. She'll probably go on the lead on of these!

Are you given to the dramatic much ?

Overheal

GerryCarry wrote: »

I agree with Declan Ganley, as of today the Rep. of Ireland is now a rogue state using tax payers money to kill innocent unborn children. No difference to Nazi Germany using tax payers money to kill innocent Jews.

I woulnd't have recognized Nazi Germany, and now i don't recognize the Irish State.

As of May 25th 2018:

- I don't recognize the Irish State
- I don't recognize Dail Eireann
- And i don't recognize Bunreacht na hEireann (no problem swearing on it in a court of law as it means nothing)

I didn't even want to vote as it was an illegal referendum in the first place (you can't vote on whether to kill innocent babies).

I will be finding ways to pay as little tax to the Irish government as possible from now on (just enough to avoid being put in jail). Wont be paying my TV license as i fear the money will be used to pay for workers to staff the incinerators that kill innocent babies.

Not the TV license! NOT THE TEE VEE LICENSE! PEOPLE NEED THAT MONEY FOR THE SOAPS!!!

Sheeps

retro:electro wrote: »

This is amazing. This is what happens when men think they know more about my body then I do. I’ve often gone 6mths+ without a period due to medication/contraception/stress/other reasons that are none of your business.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.

If you can't figure out that you're pregnant after 10 weeks, what makes you think you'll be able to figure it out in the next two weeks?

uck51js9zml2yt

Fighting Tao wrote: »

You wanted to start the debate all over again. It’s over. It will not be back on the table ever. Ireland has moved on. Thankfully!

No I didnt!
SO where did I say exactly I wanted another referendum and a televised debate?

You're very quick to throw unfounded allegations around. Its just a pity they are unproven and unjustifiable...but lets not get in the way of drama.