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Morgan Freeman stared at woman's breasts.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    It's a sad state of affairs when 'God' can't gaze upon the bosoms he created. Tut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    I can't get over the quasi defence of this guy. He's a fcukin sleazebag.



    You ask once if there's no agreement that's it you don't keep on.


    A number of my dvds will now be available from the Enable charity shop.

    No offence,but I think you should keep your dvd's. Can't see them being popular. Iv never heard of you.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Olsky


    _Brian wrote: »

    The allegations of sexual harassment laid out are serious in nature and warrant investigating. They are not just lads behaviour nor banter.

    In any workplace they would have a male employee fired and rightly so.

    .

    One woman told CNN that sometimes Freeman would "come over to my desk to say hi and he'd just stand there and stare at me. He would stare at my breasts."

    "If I ever passed him he would stare at me in an awkward way, would look me up and down sometimes stopping and just staring," she said. "One time he stopped, looked me up and down as I walked into a room of people,

    This is an allegation that has been publicised by an international news organization. It has made international headlines and had destroyed the reputation and career of an international figure.
    It is no trivial


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    I can't get over the quasi defence of this guy. He's a fcukin sleazebag.



    You ask once if there's no agreement that's it you don't keep on.


    A number of my dvds will now be available from the Enable charity shop.

    #NotMyGod


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    I can't get over the quasi defence of this guy. He's a fcukin sleazebag.



    You ask once if there's no agreement that's it you don't keep on.


    A number of my dvds will now be available from the Enable charity shop.

    Better get rid of every single DVD movie you have, as, given the number of men in Hollywood that have some form of accusation against them at this stage, I doubt any major film released in the past 30 years or more wouldn't have the input of one of them at some level, from the production, technical, distribution, or acting side.

    Using your logic, you probably shouldn't use any electrical or electronic devices either (Tesla, Edison, Jobs, and many other investors have incidences of treating women badly).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    kylith wrote: »
    It’s also alleged that he tried to pull up a woman’s skirt repeatedly and asked her if she was wearing underwear.

    Another woman, who was pregnant at the time, alleges that he made some creepy comments about her being ‘ripe’ and being inside her.

    How do you "try" to pull up a woman's skirt? Pretty sure if he had malicious intentions he would have succeded


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    I presume the 'invictus' dvd is already gone, after what Matt Damon did


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Better get rid of every single DVD movie you have, as, given the number of men in Hollywood that have some form of accusation against them at this stage, I doubt any major film released in the past 30 years or more wouldn't have the input of one of them at some level, from the production, technical, distribution, or acting side.

    Using your logic, you probably shouldn't use any electrical or electronic devices either (Tesla, Edison, Jobs, and many other investors have incidences of treating women badly).

    Tesla stayed away from women and died celibate. The most he ever did was.write a few fairly innocent letters to a woman. He preferred pigeons. Looks like he's the example all men should follow lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    professore wrote: »
    How do you "try" to pull up a woman's skirt? Pretty sure if he had malicious intentions he would have succeded

    Ah,the ol T-Rex nightclub move,good intentions,lots of promise,but unfortunately,cursed with short arms.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    professore wrote: »
    Tesla stayed away from women and died celibate. The most he ever did was.write a few fairly innocent letters to a woman. He preferred pigeons. Looks like he's the example all men should follow lol

    The world has experienced many tragedies, but to my mind the greatest tragedy of all is the present economic condition wherein women strive against men, and in many cases actually succeed in usurping their places in the professions and in industry,” the inventor explained in cringe-worthy detail. “This growing tendency of women to overshadow the masculine is a sign of a deteriorating civilization.”

    “Perhaps the male in human society is useless. I am frank to admit that I don’t know,” Tesla conceded. “If women are beginning to feel this way about it—and there is striking evidence at hand that they do—then we are entering upon the cruelest period of the world’s history.”


    The feminist would love that alright :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    professore wrote: »
    How do you "try" to pull up a woman's skirt? Pretty sure if he had malicious intentions he would have succeded

    He's very old - maybe once he bent down to lift it, he couldn't get back up again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    I can't get over the quasi defence of this guy. He's a fcukin sleazebag.



    You ask once if there's no agreement that's it you don't keep on.


    A number of my dvds will now be available from the Enable charity shop.

    Wait until the Hollywood paedophile rings are finally exposed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    professore wrote: »
    Tesla stayed away from women and died celibate. The most he ever did was.write a few fairly innocent letters to a woman. He preferred pigeons. Looks like he's the example all men should follow lol
    The ‘ Birds ‘ wouldn’t like that .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    Gravelly wrote: »
    The world has experienced many tragedies, but to my mind the greatest tragedy of all is the present economic condition wherein women strive against men, and in many cases actually succeed in usurping their places in the professions and in industry,” the inventor explained in cringe-worthy detail. “This growing tendency of women to overshadow the masculine is a sign of a deteriorating civilization.”

    “Perhaps the male in human society is useless. I am frank to admit that I don’t know,” Tesla conceded. “If women are beginning to feel this way about it—and there is striking evidence at hand that they do—then we are entering upon the cruelest period of the world’s history.”


    The feminist would love that alright :D

    A feminist could have written the first sentence in the second paragraph.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Did the Skirt look like a Hand Rail ?

    This could be just a mis-understanding .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    blinding wrote: »
    Did the Skirt look like a Hand Rail ?

    This could be just a mis-understanding .

    Or he might just have been checking that she was wearing comfortable shoes. Old people are obsessed with comfortable shoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    I can't understand why these large breasted,easily offended women keep hanging around these rich,famous old men.

    Surely they must know that poor penniless old men never bother with big tits. All they want is the news at 6 and a copy of the racing post.

    When will these women learn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Uncharted wrote: »
    I can't understand why these large breasted,easily offended women keep hanging around these rich,famous old men.

    Surely they must know that poor penniless old men never bother with big tits. All they want is the news at 6 and a copy of the racing post.

    When will these women learn!

    There's a masters theses for someone - is there a causal link between large breasts and a proclivity to take offence. Does one cause the other, is there a genetic link, are the two (or three if you prefer) linked in any way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Or he might just have been checking that she was wearing comfortable shoes. Old people are obsessed with comfortable shoes.
    Or possibly trying to keep her skirt down so that a draught did not do serious damage especially if she was not wearing underwear which of course he did only a cursory emergency check for .

    Old People fear draughts something fierce !:eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Gravelly wrote: »
    There's a masters theses for someone - is there a causal link between large breasts and a proclivity to take offence. Does one cause the other, is there a genetic link, are the two (or three if you prefer) linked in any way.
    And especially around wealthy people who may have plenty of money for reparations .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Jeff2 wrote:
    What is OK. A look then look away or at face then another look. Then take out your glasses, clean them and have another look.

    Hey, even feminists have feelings! You gotta do the triangle. No, not the meatspin. The triangle. Look at her breasts, look somewhere else (knock yourself out), then look into her eyes and assure her you mean her no harm; just to serve her for life monetarily, to stay fit, to re-invent yourself to suit her changing whims, to always carry the collective guilt of all men here and gone (you bastard you) and make sure to smile with your eyes.

    Then you're golden.

    But don't objectify her?! Jaysis


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    I wonder if Morgan Freeman had made bad financial investments and was stoney broke how much would we be hearing about all of this ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    You can be as gentlemanly as you want but it's just built into the vast majority of men that when they see a great looking woman with a pair of great tits or arse, they will take a sneaky view of it. It's just an animal instinct, it can not be helped. Harassing and assaulting women is a different story, it's not comparable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Out of interest, what sort of top was the accuser wearing? It's significant because if it was some low-cut number which accentuated her breasts then condemning men for looking is pretty ruthless, given that was probably the intention.

    That being said, if Freeman was constantly staring at her tits, like refusing to take his eyes off them and make eye contact during a conversation, then obviously that's pretty perverted and creepy.

    That's the crux of it in my view. Until the specifics have been established, nobody's opinion of Freeman can really change because from what I can tell there's as much evidence that he's a pervert as there is evidence of him being a normal man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Out of interest, what sort of top was the accuser wearing? It's significant because if it was some low-cut number which accentuated her breasts then condemning men for looking is pretty ruthless, given that was probably the intention.

    That being said, if Freeman was constantly staring at her tits, like refusing to take his eyes off them and make eye contact during a conversation, then obviously that's pretty perverted and creepy.

    That's the crux of it in my view. Until the specifics have been established, nobody's opinion of Freeman can really change because from what I can tell there's as much evidence that he's a pervert as there is evidence of him being a normal man.

    That would suggest some people are interestwd in the specifics, but they're not. In the modern world of trial by social media, as soon as someone feels uncomfortable the other person is guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭DrWu


    Once had a conversation with a woman wearing a very low cut top and boobs pressed up under her chin. She kept giving me scolding looks even though I wasn't looking - I was consciously NOT looking because it was so obvious I was supposed to look. It was like a trap - a booby trap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    I don't know the exact context of what really happened but I'm just going to immediately cherry pick the parts of it that suit the opinion I'm trying to push.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    DrWu wrote: »
    Once had a conversation with a woman wearing a very low cut top and boobs pressed up under her chin. She kept giving me scolding looks even though I wasn't looking - I was consciously NOT looking because it was so obvious I was supposed to look. It was like a trap - a booby trap!
    Never Touch a Booby trap . You never know how long after that it can still blow up .

    This is becoming the default position for men having any dealings with women .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭valoren


    #FreeToo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Olsky


    Advertisers and producers now begining to shun Freeman who has become a pariah. Interesting article on the attacks in the Spectator


    A recurring theme in the accusations is Freeman’s eyes or, to be more precise, where – or at what – he would look. One woman claims that sometimes Freeman would ‘come over to my desk to say hi and he’d just stand there and stare at me. He would stare at my breasts.’ She says, ‘If I ever passed him he would stare at me in an awkward way, would look me up and down sometimes stopping and just staring.’ All mention Freeman’s alleged habit of ‘looking women up and down.’ On one occasion he apparently asked a woman to give him a twirl. And, so far, that’s it.

    Freeman spoke to and looked at a small number of women in a way that made them feel uncomfortable. In the words of a male former employee, he behaved like a ‘creepy uncle’. But this is a difficult accusation to make stick. At what point does a look turn into a stare? When does a glance become ‘looking up and down’? When does a compliment become a comment about someone’s body? It’s impossible to provide objective answers to these questions. The accusations against Freeman show us that #MeToo is moving into subjective terrain. It’s no longer about what a man has done but about how a woman feels. Whether it’s a look or a stare, a compliment or sexual harassment, depends entirely on how it is perceived. Morgan has now apologised to ‘anyone who felt uncomfortable or disrespected.’

    Defining sexual harassment so broadly and subjectively does women no favours. The majority of women can cope with being looked at, having their back touched or having their appearance commented on. They can make clear when such attention is not wanted. No workplace rules or changes to the law can ever control where people look. Still less can we legislate against circumstances in which people might feel uncomfortable.

    The #MeToo movement calls for a change in culture so that women no longer need to put up with behaviour that makes them feel uncomfortable. Not only is this impossible it is also counterproductive. The more we tell women the workplace is a sexist and toxic environment, the more women come to interpret their experiences through that lens.


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