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What will the next tax be.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Geuze wrote: »
    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Some believe, including myself, that fractional reserve banking actually doesn't exist, as it implies banks lend out reserves, but they actually don't, as the majority of money is in fact created by banks in the form of loans by a method that's commonly called 'double entry bookkeeping'.

    If a bank receives a deposit of 100, they keep some in reserve, and lend out the balance.

    To say they "lend out reserves" is a bit confusing.

    If a bank receives 100 euro on deposit they will lend out a large multiple of that 100 euro. Used to be up to 10 times but not sure what it is now, I imagine it's tighter. It's called the liquidity ratio

    They lend money they don't have, that's how banks have created wealth over the last few hundred years and has allowed the world economy to grow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    erica74 wrote: »
    Fck it more like what's the next weekly tenner they'll take out our pockets.

    With the sugar tax every family will  be down at least a tenner a week.

    So that's 520 a year.....

    They could just decrease their intake of sugary shite?
    And start consuming swetener sh*te?
    Zero calories sweetener drinks doesn't help fighting obesity BTW.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    BailMeOut wrote: »
    To fund water properly we would need to increase one or both of the two taxes you mentioned or cut funding for other services funded by general taxation and use for water or try to fund water separately.  For many people in Ireland the 3rd options seems like the most sensible idea.
    Water tax would be fine if the whole setup wasn't a scam, DOBs bought for cheap company installing meters, due to be retired council workers moved to Irish water so it would get the pension bill, excessive bonuses for a failed org, jobs in IW weren't open to the public, golden contracts for employees etc. etc.
    Its basically a call center that costs a fortune.

    Instead of setting up a legitimate open organization for water the usual corrupt system benefitting buddies of the government and council workers was setup.
    No thanks, start again and it might be acceptable.
    Laughing yoga classes for IW employees would improve the water quality!


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I'm not a huge fan of additional taxes, but there's one charge I think should be brought in.

    Minimum charges for use of medical card.

    Say what?

    Yes, nothing exorbitant. Say, €8 or €10 for a GP visit, some nominal fee for prescriptions. At the moment the system is absolutely bonkers. Small fees would be affordable by everyone, even OAPs, but would help eliminate people using the service who don't need to.

    Already pay E2 per item. And to eg old folk and those on benefits, E10 is a lot of money. It would make folk stop seeing their GP and going to A nd E more and clog that up even more. and risk illness getting worse and costing more to treat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I'm not a huge fan of additional taxes, but there's one charge I think should be brought in.

    Minimum charges for use of medical card.

    Say what?

    Yes, nothing exorbitant. Say, €8 or €10 for a GP visit, some nominal fee for prescriptions. At the moment the system is absolutely bonkers. Small fees would be affordable by everyone, even OAPs, but would help eliminate people using the service who don't need to.

    Already pay E2 per item. And to eg old folk and those on benefits, E10 is a lot of money. It would make folk stop seeing their GP and going to  A nd E more and clog that up even more. and risk illness getting worse and costing more to treat.
    So 50-60 euro per visit for those who actually pays the HSE budget is OK?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    The sugar tax is in now. The min alcohol pricing coming. What other tax's do people see coming because sure as hell they will. Coffee cup and plastic tax are probably the two next one's.

    And sure as hell the sugar tax won't be used to fight obesity. Not a chance. The same as the property tax. That is just used to pay something else off. See the bin charges are now including green bins. Like anything once they get them in they just go up.

    This min alcohol pricing will start at a level on go up. And its starting at nearly two and a half times the Scotland level. It seems this govt are just hell bent on taking what little pleasures people have left and taxing them on them.

    It doesn't matter what the sugar tax is used for, it's a necessary thing for a nation that can't look after itself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    bilbot79 wrote: »

    It doesn't matter what the sugar tax is used for, it's a necessary thing for a nation that can't look after itself.
    Do you mean compulsory sterilization for those with 5+ kids on the dole?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    Instead of setting up a legitimate open organization for water the usual corrupt system benefitting buddies of the government and council workers was setup. No thanks, start again and it might be acceptable.

    It will come back onto the agenda sooner or later. Why? Because a tax that's based on public water consumption makes very good sense both from the POV of fixing supplies and avoiding wastage. It all depends on how it's presented.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,281 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Already pay E2 per item. And to eg old folk and those on benefits, E10 is a lot of money. It would make folk stop seeing their GP and going to A nd E more and clog that up even more. and risk illness getting worse and costing more to treat.

    Nonsense. If a tenner puts you off going to the doctor there is fook all wrong with you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Already pay E2 per item. And to eg old folk and those on benefits, E10 is a lot of money. It would make folk stop seeing their GP and going to A nd E more and clog that up even more. and risk illness getting worse and costing more to treat.
    I don’t have a medical card and cost makes me stop seeing my gp and going to a+e.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Tax air quality in your area :(

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Nonsense. If a tenner puts you off going to the doctor there is fook all wrong with you

    E10 for pensioners ? Try it?

    Then come back and say that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Vacant property tax and a derilict building tax.the ultimate owners of a building or property should either keep it to a certain standard and in use or sell up.lots of property hoarding in cork and ghosts estates that look terrible.all being hoarded until house prices peak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Dont they want to increase the rte tax?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,281 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Graces7 wrote: »
    E10 for pensioners ? Try it?

    Then come back and say that.

    The elderly in Ireland are in the main very comfortable. And the large majority of them can well afford a tenner.

    But as it goes - I'd exclude those beyond the state retirement age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    smurgen wrote: »
    Vacant property tax and a derilict building tax.the ultimate owners of a building or property should either keep it to a certain standard and in use or sell up.lots of property hoarding in cork and ghosts estates that look terrible.all being hoarded until house prices peak.
    Also tax savings in the banks! If person has a 100k in bank account tax him/her 1k a year for not spending the money))


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