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Biochar and natural farming

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    #332
    davidk1394
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    Whats the benefits of it and why did you decide to cary out this project?


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    #333
    Say my name
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    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Whats the benefits of it and why did you decide to cary out this project?

    Long lasting carbon storage in the soil with the benefits of holding onto nitrates and phosphorous and providing accommodation for more soil life and increasing the cation exchange capacity of the soil with the long term aim of reducing purchases of those blue bags in the picture there.

    Why? I was bored. :D


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    #334
    Earnshaw
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    Say my name wrote: »
    Ho hum..:):)]]

    What's in the IBC tank?


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    #335
    webels
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    Great information here say my name. Is that a tipping skip you use for the burn?


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    #336
    timfromtang
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    Earnshaw wrote: »
    Say my name wrote: »
    Ho hum..:):)]]

    What's in the IBC tank?
    I'd guess water for quenching.
    tim

    www.youtube.com/c/timfromtang

    Fuinseog abú



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    #337
    Say my name
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    webels wrote: »
    Great information here say my name. Is that a tipping skip you use for the burn?

    No it's a specially made pyramid kiln just with the addition of Euro brackets for the loader.
    I got the dimensions for it from open source plans on the net. I used the dimensions from the 1100 litre kon tiki cone. You'll get that with Google on images.
    This even though it's a pyramid not a cone still just holds 1100 litres. Just the right size for quenching with a 1000 litre ibc tank and for the loader. It's just the right size for it all. Made with 5mm steel.


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    #338
    Say my name
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    Earnshaw wrote: »
    Say my name wrote: »
    Ho hum..:):)]]

    What's in the IBC tank?

    It's water. I can use any liquid biology or nutrients to quench though.
    I'll use some compost extract on a few quenches but I haven't enough at present with the dry weather and any I had I sprayed direct on the grass with the sprayer.
    But anyway this is going in the slurry tank and out with the tanker.


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    #339
    Say my name
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    There's an interesting talk/webinar on the soil food web and biochar here.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/comments/fyntmt/rapid_soil_building_for_emergencies_and_beyond/?utm_source=ifttt

    Biochar is from 40 mins in.
    But it's interesting from the start on the soil food web.


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    #340
    Say my name
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    Interesting article on using biochar and lactic acid to treat manure and slurry.
    Korean natural farming uses lactic acid to treat manure.
    The article also says silage juice can be used. But probably only if it's lactic acid coming from it.

    https://www.biochar-journal.org/en/ct/29


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    #341
    Castlekeeper
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    Say my name wrote: »
    Would you have any idea what the perfect carbon : nitrogen ratio of a fertilizer should be?

    Compost is 20:1
    Microbes themselves are 8:1

    So would 8:1 sound right and that leaves nitrogen available to the plant.
    Might as well move this over here I think?

    I think the whole point if adding molasses or any available carbon source us to help mitigate against soil carbon loss from the N application stripping it out during breakdown. The rate I've seen for that purpose is 25l/ ha, any excess molasses will just function as a food source for soil bugs.
    I just add some to feed any bugs in soil or maybe in my mix.


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    #342
    Say my name
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    Not sure if this movie/documentary was already mentioned on this thread.

    But I see it mentioned elsewhere as free to view from Earth day which has past up to the 1st of May.

    It's called "Dirt Rich" the movie.. Over 1hr 27mins long so not a dinner time watch.

    https://vimeo.com/290375721


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    #343
    Say my name
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    I actually got some CAN fertilizer delivered today with a carbon source coating it (seaweed powder or carbonate or something?). I'll use that instead of the protected urea products that are being pushed here.
    This CAN + seaweed in trials last year gave the same yield as CAN but with 20% less used as CAN.
    I'm in derogation so hopefully this will cover the protected urea requirement.


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    #344
    Castlekeeper
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    Say my name wrote: »
    I actually got some CAN fertilizer delivered today with a carbon source coating it (seaweed powder or carbonate or something?). I'll use that instead of the protected urea products that are being pushed here.
    This CAN + seaweed in trials last year gave the same yield as CAN but with 20% less used as CAN.
    I'm in derogation so hopefully this will cover the protected urea requirement.

    I'd say you'd want to get that cleared or else the docket fixed.


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    #345
    Say my name
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    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    I'd say you'd want to get that cleared or else the docket fixed.

    I'll have to find out anyway. Not a fan of protected urea.


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    #346
    Say my name
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    Coleus cutting growing in 100% miscanthus biochar.

    20200429-120438.jpg

    Carbon capture occurring twice (well three times if the grass underneath is included) in that picture.

    Substitute the oil plastic pot for a clay or bioplastic pot and life would be complete.


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    #347
    Water John
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    Eamon Ryan wants your number.


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    #348
    Say my name
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    Water John wrote: »
    Eamon Ryan wants your number.

    Ah now. I didn't know it was a western facing window sill at the time..

    If he is around.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s42773-019-00019-0


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    #349
    Say my name
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    Not sure if ye already subscribe to their YouTube channel.
    They have over 191k subscribers. So chances are ye do already. :pac:

    Way out West. A couple farming a smallholding in the west of Ireland.

    They have been making biochar. The clip here shows them making pyramid kilns and biochar.

    https://youtu.be/2EFVEjBVh48


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    #350
    Danzy
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    Say my name wrote: »
    Not sure if ye already subscribe to their YouTube channel.
    They have over 191k subscribers. So chances are ye do already. :pac:

    Way out West. A couple farming a smallholding in the west of Ireland.

    They have been making biochar. The clip here shows them making pyramid kilns and biochar.

    https://youtu.be/2EFVEjBVh48

    Yeah, am subscriber, they do nice vids, watched one today about a gate they made. Nice craftsmanship


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    #351
    Say my name
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    This was an interesting post about using biochar and fym to make bokashi- large scale, farm scale.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3388452434545424&id=985448954845796

    On the same Facebook site. Denis gives an interview/podcast about his business and how he wanted to set this business up with an emphasis on employing people instead of where he was in his previous life as a sole worker.


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    #352
    Water John
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    Say My Name, this is what you should be doing with the seawater, selling it to people, not spraying on the fields, ha.
    https://www.sterimarnasal.co.uk/our-products/nasal-hygiene#breathe-easy-daily


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    #353
    Say my name
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    Water John wrote: »
    Say My Name, this is what you should be doing with the seawater, selling it to people, not spraying on the fields, ha.
    https://www.sterimarnasal.co.uk/our-products/nasal-hygiene#breathe-easy-daily

    If it's anything like sea salt when you first start taking it. You'll have dreams so vivid you'll believe you're still awake.
    You'll be seeing seven fat cows and seven thin cows when you hit the pillow.


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    #354
    Water John
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    So better than the magic mushrooms.


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    #355
    Say my name
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    Water John wrote: »
    So better than the magic mushrooms.

    The only shroom that went in this gob was a button out of a polythene tunnel.


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    #356
    Castlekeeper
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    Say my name wrote: »
    If it's anything like sea salt when you first start taking it. You'll have dreams so vivid you'll believe you're still awake.
    You'll be seeing seven fat cows and seven thin cows when you hit the pillow.

    Is it not just the same as putting a bit of salt (sea) on the chips or spuds?


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    #357
    Say my name
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    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    Is it not just the same as putting a bit of salt (sea) on the chips or spuds?

    How are you getting on with your biochar plots?


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    Castlekeeper
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    Say my name wrote: »
    How are you getting on with your biochar plots?

    Only went our this week as it was to dry. I'd say it might be too little to be significant, only a few hundred kgs mixed in with 60000 gals of slurry. I mixed in some humans and molasses as well.

    I'll keep you posted.


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    #359
    Water John
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    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    Only went our this week as it was to dry. I'd say it might be too little to be significant, only a few hundred kgs mixed in with 60000 gals of slurry. I mixed in some humans and molasses as well.

    I'll keep you posted.

    Has someone contacted the Guards?


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    #360
    Say my name
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    Water John wrote: »
    Has someone contacted the Guards?

    Ah he meant humates. I think.

    Or maybe tiny humans.


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    #361
    Say my name
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    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    Only went our this week as it was to dry. I'd say it might be too little to be significant, only a few hundred kgs mixed in with 60000 gals of slurry. I mixed in some humans and molasses as well.

    I'll keep you posted.
    Cool.

    Pit kiln?


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