La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

Reality_Check1

https://www.stickybottle.com/coaching/comparing-peak-power-generated-by-a-group-of-irish-riders-a4-to-a1/

I know this study is limited enough because its self reported data but I found it a bit surprising that 20 min power for A4 is over 4w/kg??

Looks like I've a long way to go fitness wise before I even consider lining up

Eamonnator

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Jesus! I'd say you had a small poo.

Yer man on the phone is my barber, nice lad, I'd have thumped the dope on the scooter.

I'd love to hear the conversation between the two of them.
I'd have been tempted to throw him under the bus.
See what I did there?

LollipopJimmy

Eamonnator wrote: »

I'd love to hear the conversation between the two of them.
I'd have been tempted to throw him under the bus.
See what I did there?

Knowing Locky he asked if he wanted a fade

And yes :pac:

crosstownk

Eamonnator wrote: »

....
I'd have been tempted to throw him under the bus.
See what I did there?

Yep.

No bigger bus to throw him under - that's a VT - the largest bus in the Dublin Bus fleet.

wheelo01

Eamonnator wrote: »

I'd love to hear the conversation between the two of them.
I'd have been tempted to throw him under the bus.
See what I did there?

It seemed to me that the barber apologise, asked was he okay, from my perspective it looked like he landed nuts first on top of the bollards, but both just went their way.

CramCycle

Reality_Check1 wrote: »

https://www.stickybottle.com/coaching/comparing-peak-power-generated-by-a-group-of-irish-riders-a4-to-a1/

I know this study is limited enough because its self reported data but I found it a bit surprising that 20 min power for A4 is over 4w/kg??

Looks like I've a long way to go fitness wise before I even consider lining up

I wouldn't read too much into, plenty get out of A4 with far less, tactics and either a good sprint or a lucky break are far more important.

Fighting Tao

wheelo01 wrote: »

See the bus that passed? That was me driving, fella came out of barber shop engrossed on phone, other pleb was flying, luckily nobody was hurt.
He could as easily have ended up under my bus had the pole not been there

My first thought watching the video was that the bus driver was very aware. My heart was in my mouth as it came into view. Great stuff on your driving.

magicbastarder

do bus drivers get any training in observation?
of course we'll claim your reactions were due to being a cyclist.

lennymc

CramCycle wrote: »

I wouldn't read too much into, plenty get out of A4 with far less, tactics and either a good sprint or a lucky break are far more important.

agreed - 75kg A4 would need to be holding 300 watts for that 20 minutes, and (imho) there are very few who would be doing that. Most A4s wouldnt have that, and as Cram says, tactics and a good sprint are way more important.

lennymc

magicbastarder wrote: »

do bus drivers get any training in observation?
of course we'll claim your reactions were due to being a cyclist.

when i was about 14 or 15, i was cycling along the malahide road, when a double decker (the 43 to swords) hit me in the ass. He kept driving. I was knocked into the grass verge, but mostly unhurt. I saw a few friends at a nearby shop, and was telling them about it, when a passenger of the bus came over to me - she and other passengers had see the incident and told the bus driver, who for whatever reason just continued on. Later, my father rang the garage, and overhead a conversation between the driver and the control room, where the driver said 'Yeah, I think I hit a bike on the way out'

From my perspective, i was lucky i wasnt killed or seriously injured, but looking back im always amazed that someone would continue on driving after knowing and being told they hit someone. I really hope they have changed their approach to training since then.

I guess it's like everything - good and bad

Reality_Check1

CramCycle wrote: »

I wouldn't read too much into, plenty get out of A4 with far less, tactics and either a good sprint or a lucky break are far more important.

Ah sound - I took others advice on here and joined a club so I’m a good bit away from racing I just seen that article and was using it as a barometer of how far I was away. Might do a training log on it coming from obese to race fit

joey100

Reality_Check1 wrote: »

https://www.stickybottle.com/coaching/comparing-peak-power-generated-by-a-group-of-irish-riders-a4-to-a1/

I know this study is limited enough because its self reported data but I found it a bit surprising that 20 min power for A4 is over 4w/kg??

Looks like I've a long way to go fitness wise before I even consider lining up

I asked premier endurance about this when it came out, was curious about the numbers. All self reported, and based on peak figures from 2020. So I would guess that lads have picked their best figures across the season. Not sure I'd take people's weight as accurate too, I'd guess people compare their best power numbers against their best weight over the season rather than 1 specific point in time.

CramCycle

joey100 wrote: »

I asked premier endurance about this when it came out, was curious about the numbers. All self reported, and based on peak figures from 2020. So I would guess that lads have picked their best figures across the season. Not sure I'd take people's weight as accurate too, I'd guess people compare their best power numbers against their best weight over the season rather than 1 specific point in time.

As someone who has led the A4 bunch in Mondello and gotten 1st unplaced, as well as a few other placings at A4 level, never was my power close to that on average over a race. Its not impossible on a short race but it simply is not a thing at A4 IMO.

I think the only time I have done close to this for a full race is racing semi limit in my club league in Corkagh where I made a brake in the 1st lap and TTd away to catch limit, rode through and managed to pip the guy who bridged in a sprint and to say what I done felt unnatural would be a lie, my HR averaged 193, and only dropped to 180 for a few seconds when I caught limit and decided to ride through. I was well over 4W/kg for the 45 minutes but like I said, it wasn't a normal performance and I have never repeated it.

As above, if I took my lightest weight and my peak power, it would look like I was averaging 5.8W/kg, in reality I would say a typical race probably between 2 and 3 W/kg if I race smart.

daragh_

The best way to get out of A4 is to join my campaign to get Cycling Ireland to establish an A5 category. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

tomasrojo

This is remarkable, if real. I guess it's real?
https://twitter.com/OConnorOisin/status/1392846129239363591

EDIT: Remarkably, that really is whoever made the video's idea of "a really good lock".

LollipopJimmy

Funny, same councillor had a go at Gardai for arresting a drug driver, used the term 'go after real criminals'. After that I have zero respect for him.

buffalo

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Funny, same councillor had a go at Gardai for arresting a drug driver, used the term 'go after real criminals'. After that I have zero respect for him.

Doesn't seem to fit with his pro-cycling stance. Have you got a link?

tomasrojo

I think even if he's a thoroughly unreliable source, it's quite something that anyone putting together a clip to advise people on bicycle security would present that as "a really good lock".

EDIT: There it is. Seems to be a Fine Gael video. Also recommends you put your eircode on your bike, which most people think is a terrible idea.
https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1392839191139024901

LollipopJimmy

buffalo wrote: »

Doesn't seem to fit with his pro-cycling stance. Have you got a link?

I was shocked and argued with him and then he deleted it. I had a screenshot but can't put my hands on it now

lennymc

daragh_ wrote: »

The best way to get out of A4 is to join my campaign to get Cycling Ireland to establish an A5 category. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

i fully subscribe to this proposal

dahat

My Wahoo bolt seems to be stuck in a boot loop after getting wet today.

Tried the usual tricks and still the same, not a good end to the spin.

CramCycle

dahat wrote: »

My Wahoo bolt seems to be stuck in a boot loop after getting wet today.

Tried the usual tricks and still the same, not a good end to the spin.

Get onto Wahoo, I had good experience when mine bricked it and they had me sorted with a replacement in a few days from their Irish distributor.

dahat

CramCycle wrote: »

Get onto Wahoo, I had good experience when mine bricked it and they had me sorted with a replacement in a few days from their Irish distributor.

Will do ASAP.

Now reads “error please plug out charger”.

ED E

dahat wrote: »

Will do ASAP.

Now reads “error please plug out charger”.

Dry out the USB, moisture in the port can short the pins.

crosstownk

dahat wrote: »

My Wahoo bolt seems to be stuck in a boot loop after getting wet today.

Tried the usual tricks and still the same, not a good end to the spin.

CramCycle wrote: »

Get onto Wahoo, I had good experience when mine bricked it and they had me sorted with a replacement in a few days from their Irish distributor.

I'd similar experiences.

I'd an issue with my ELEMNT Bolt sh1tting itself in wet conditions. I got onto Wahoo Support and submitted a request (at the bottom of the linked page). Within hours I had a reply asking for proof of purchase. Once I submitted the receipt (bought in CSS three weeks earlier), I was sent instructions to perform a 'Field Destroy' on the unit and submit photos of the destroyed unit - at which point they sent me a replacement unit which arrived a week later.

Decent support, imo. A side benefit of getting a replacement is that I now have an additional out front mount and standard mount for my other bikes

Field destroy is a new one on me. Makes a lot of sense though in some ways.

CramCycle

Deleted User wrote: »

Field destroy is a new one on me. Makes a lot of sense though in some ways.

Stops it ending up on AliExpress like lots of old Garmin stuff and possible brand damage. That and it means your not spoofing.

manafana

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I was shocked and argued with him and then he deleted it. I had a screenshot but can't put my hands on it now

spends too much time on twitter, but his actions as councilor have been good for imo, got alot of the barriers on the pedestrian/cycle lanes removed, and done some work to clean up the park up by lambs cross.

crosstownk

Deleted User wrote: »

Field destroy is a new one on me. Makes a lot of sense though in some ways.

I was given the option of returning it rather than field destroy but the destroy option was given due to Covid and speed of replacement.

dahat

ED E wrote: »

Dry out the USB, moisture in the port can short the pins.

It’s in rice for a few hours now, I’ll try again tomorrow and see. Thanks for the tip.