Cork developments

snotboogie

Seems site prep is underway at the Coca Cola student site https://twitter.com/WonkyAnkle/status/1405089424904445953?s=19

jackrussel

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Douglas Eegit

jackrussel wrote: »

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

ah here. This makes the spot besides Barrys look the better option.

Surely Douglas and surrounds can't sustain this?
Grange: Aldi & Supervalu
Douglas: Tesco & M&S & Dunnes & Aldi (soon) & Iceland
Skehard Road: SuperValu & Aldi & Aldi (soon)

Not including the Daybreaks and Centras and Tesco Express dotted about.

rounders

jackrussel wrote: »

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40316846.html

rf1980

At this stage they should just build a combined Aldi and Lidi and put Douglas village inside it.

chalkitdown1

Cllr Des Cahill already coming out against it on Twitter. Hopefully others will follow.

The last thing Douglas needs is another bloody supermarket and car park.

snotboogie

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

ah here. This makes the sport besides Barrys look the better option.

Surely Douglas and surrounds can't sustain this?
Grange: Aldi & Supervalu
Douglas: Tesco & M&S & Dunnes & Aldi (soon) & Iceland
Skehard Road: SuperValu & Aldi & Aldi (soon)

Not including the Daybreaks and Centras and Tesco Express dotted about.

It's not the sustability of the supermarkets I'd be worried about, there is about 30k people living in the immediate area, so plenty of shoppers to go around, it's the sustainability of Douglas that's the issue.

Apogee

Planning app for 31 apartments on site of old furniture store on Watercourse Rd in Blackpool

Cork City Planning wrote:

Planning permission for development of this site. The proposed development will consist of the construction of 31 no. apartments over 6 storeys. The proposed works include: -The demolition of a disused commercial building (957 sq.m) - The provision of 31 no. apartments comprised of 19 no. 1 bedroom (1044.4 total sq.) and 12 no 2 bedroom (933.1 total sq. m) apartments - The provision of a ground floor communal gathering space (92.4 sq. m) -The provision of 84 no. Bicycle spaces and 7 no. car parking -Construction of an on-site substation and switch room (20m2) -Landscaping and all ancillary works

https://planning.corkcity.ie/AppFileRefDetails/2140280/0

Douglas Eegit

snotboogie wrote: »

It's not the sustability of the supermarkets I'd be worried about, there is about 30k people living in the immediate area, so plenty of shoppers to go around, it's the sustainability of Douglas that's the issue.

Since the redevelopment of Douglas Village shopping centre I would think that was the end of Douglas Village.
Actually, go back further, since the development of the now N40 right through the village that was the end

opus

Spotted work has started on the apartment block on Coach St.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

jackrussel wrote: »

Someone posted a planning permission sign on the cork subreddit for lidl to go into the spot beside Aldi in Douglas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/comments/o27m3b/another_application_by_lidl_after_two_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

That site would make a perfect community space and park. Douglas doesn't need this. The place is a traffic sewer as it is.

snotboogie

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

That site would make a perfect community space and park. Douglas doesn't need this. The place is a traffic sewer as it is.

Will never happen. Its privately owned and the site is worth millions which makes it essentially impossible for the city council to buy. Both this and the aldi site are owned by the same party and the fate was sealed when the county council gave planning for the aldi. The four developments around this site; Douglas Court, McDonald's, KFC and Aldi all having no direct street access to the R610 made this entire area a traffic sewer. As maligned as Douglas Village shopping centre is for being ugly (and it is ugly) it at least has direct access to the main street and as a result has huge pedestrian traffic.

whisky_galore

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

That site would make a perfect community space and park. Douglas doesn't need this. The place is a traffic sewer as it is.

A private owner gifting land as a community area?
Lol. Never happens in Ireland.

opus

The water works expansion is taking shape on the Lee Road, as well I noticed CField construction (of the Prism fame) are working on one of the buildings in that awkwardly located clinic further out the road.

snotboogie

Sunday Business Post reporting that construction on both the Horgans Quay and Navigation Square office developments will recommence soon.

https://www.businesspost.ie/commercial-reports/cork-horgans-quay-redevelopment-on-track-to-make-its-mark-on-cityscape-5c104758

https://www.businesspost.ie/commercial-reports/cork-demand-growing-in-the-city-for-office-and-industrial-units-58d8ca05

namloc1980

Sad to see what Douglas has become. A mass of supermarkets, shopping centres and fast food joints with horrendous traffic. Empty units on the main street and extremely unfriendly for pedestrians or anyone cycling. The park is a bright spot in fairness but otherwise it's grim enough. And just for full disclosure, I grew up in Grange/Douglas and my dad still lives there and it's turned into a traffic hole with shambolic overdevelopment.

Jimmy Bottles

Douglas is proof that County Councils should not be left control highly urbanised areas. It was the County Council that ultimately left this mess unfold with the City Council now having to sort out the mess.

And yet there was a campaign in Ballincollig to stop the boundary extension….

whisky_galore

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sad to see what Douglas has become. A mass of supermarkets, shopping centres and fast food joints with horrendous traffic. Empty units on the main street and extremely unfriendly for pedestrians or anyone cycling. The park is a bright spot in fairness but otherwise it's grim enough. And just for full disclosure, I grew up in Grange/Douglas and my dad still lives there and it's turned into a traffic hole with shambolic overdevelopment.

But but jobs....

Meursault

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sad to see what Douglas has become. A mass of supermarkets, shopping centres and fast food joints with horrendous traffic. Empty units on the main street and extremely unfriendly for pedestrians or anyone cycling. The park is a bright spot in fairness but otherwise it's grim enough. And just for full disclosure, I grew up in Grange/Douglas and my dad still lives there and it's turned into a traffic hole with shambolic overdevelopment.

Agree wholeheartedly. Grew up in Douglas also and its a shame to see what has happened it.

snotboogie

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sad to see what Douglas has become. A mass of supermarkets, shopping centres and fast food joints with horrendous traffic. Empty units on the main street and extremely unfriendly for pedestrians or anyone cycling. The park is a bright spot in fairness but otherwise it's grim enough. And just for full disclosure, I grew up in Grange/Douglas and my dad still lives there and it's turned into a traffic hole with shambolic overdevelopment.

Agree with the traffic but there isn't actually that many empty units on the Main Street. There are 3 empty now; the old off licence, the old TSB and the legion of Mary. 3 out of 25 units empty isn't that bad, plus two of the units have major planning permissions going through the city council now.

TheChizler

And the TSB was supposed to be occupied by Wetherspoons until the other pubs kicked up a fuss.

Treehelpplease

Douglas has been part of Cork City for probably nearly a century now yet has always been under county council control. It was seen as a place to build loads of houses on the edge of the boundary to make use of all the services and jobs in the city council area without having to provide any of it. shops galore then to get rates. The city council should have got control of one of the biggest parts of the city much longer than 2 years ago. hopefully this lidl planning permission is shot down straight away and a proper masterplan for the remainder of douglas is developed. high density, focus on accomodation and make full use of the proximity to cork city centre just 5 minutes by bus away

the beer revolu

Treehelpplease wrote: »

and make full use of the proximity to cork city centre just 5 minutes by bus away

You expect Douglas people over the age of 20 to use the bus????:eek:

Justin Credible Darts

the beer revolu wrote: »

You expect Douglas people over the age of 20 to use the bus????:eek:

I would be surprised they would even consider going in to the war zone that is the city center

Treehelpplease

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I would be surprised they would even consider going in to the war zone that is the city center

What? lol

the beer revolu

Treehelpplease wrote: »

What? lol

Don't go there.
Just smile and nod.

Justin Credible Darts

Treehelpplease wrote: »

What? lol

I was speaking about walking down the street, avoiding chuggers, beggars tapping you, avoiding junkies or those sleeping in the doorways of empty closed up shops or pray you do not get violent assaulted or stabbed, which happens. This on the MAIN STREET of the city center.
Are you going to tell me that is not true ?


Try have a sandwich in peace in bishop lucy park with the fine people that inhabit that on occasion.

try walk down some streets like north main street, south main street and washington street and not be worried some building wont collapse on top of you.


avoiding groups of feral youths in the evenings outside the fast food places acting like maggots with not a garda anywhere to be seen.


The city is a dump, and I take no joy in it, in fact it pisses me off its that bad.
If people really cared like they claim they would not be defending this, but instead people bury their head in the sand and pretend its all fine, the city council are doing a fine job, and everything is rosy.

rounders

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I was speaking about walking down the street, avoiding chuggers, beggars tapping you, avoiding junkies or those sleeping in the doorways of empty closed up shops or pray you do not get violent assaulted or stabbed, which happens. This on the MAIN STREET of the city center.
Are you going to tell me that is not true ?


Try have a sandwich in peace in bishop lucy park with the fine people that inhabit that on occasion.

try walk down some streets like north main street, south main street and washington street and not be worried some building wont collapse on top of you.


avoiding groups of feral youths in the evenings outside the fast food places acting like maggots with not a garda anywhere to be seen.


The city is a dump, and I take no joy in it, in fact it pisses me off its that bad.
If people really cared like they claim they would not be defending this, but instead people bury their head in the sand and pretend its all fine, the city council are doing a fine job, and everything is rosy.

We've been through this, seven pages ago. If you want to talk about the issues Cork city has, please open another thrend or run for the city council to try and change it

Justin Credible Darts

why should I, who are you to dictate forum policy.
I am entitled to speak about closed up businesses and the need for development in cork in a thread about cork developments.

fonecrusher1

Its a living hell. I nearly tripped over an empty crisp packet there a few days ago. Baxtards!!!

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