The Reseeding/Stitching Discussion Thread.

Waffletraktor

Reggie. wrote: »

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Shallow pass with disc and firm rolling.

Would rolling at night do anything or is that just for slugs

Couldn’t say, I’d be working it more so to make some tilt so it rolls together tighter.

High bike

High bike wrote: »

Did a bit of reseeding in April unfortunately the weather didn't play ball and have a lot of weeds up. Sprayed with Legumex a week ago and have been advised to cut it rather than graze, a guy maintains grass will come back better after cutting .What do ye think?

Any thoughts anyone who’s into reseeding??

GrasstoMilk

High bike wrote: »

Any thoughts anyone who’s into reseeding??

Cutting would be last resort.
What's the withdrawal on the spray?
I would graze and spray again a week later

Buford T. Justice XIX

High bike wrote: »

Any thoughts anyone who’s into reseeding??

Grab a bit of the germinated grass and pull. If the roots are solid enough in the ground so that the animals will cut the grass and not pull out the roots, I'd go in and graze it straight away.

Fertilise again and graze again around the 2 leaf stage and fertilise again.

You need to feed the new grass to make it grow and graze it to promote tillering.

High bike

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Grab a bit of the germinated grass and pull. If the roots are solid enough in the ground so that the animals will cut the grass and not pull out the roots, I'd go in and graze it straight away.

Fertilise again and graze again around the 2 leaf stage and fertilise again.

You need to feed the new grass to make it grow and graze it to promote tillering.

jit got 3 bags to the acre at sowing was just slow to take off because of lack of rain.Its growing well for the last month but theirs lots of weeds also,

High bike

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Cutting would be last resort.
What's the withdrawal on the spray?
I would graze and spray again a week later

2 weeks withdrawal for spray

Buford T. Justice XIX

High bike wrote: »

jit got 3 bags to the acre at sowing was just slow to take off because of lack of rain.Its growing well for the last month but theirs lots of weeds also,

What kinds of weeds? Annual weeds, I wouldn't worry about as they will be gone after grazing or cutting. If there's a lot of docks or thistles, I'd spray alright. If not, I'd spot treat them after grazing.

Tbh, I've never done a post emergence spray here, just graze and cut or spot treat any weeds.

High bike

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

What kinds of weeds? Annual weeds, I wouldn't worry about as they will be gone after grazing or cutting. If there's a lot of docks or thistles, I'd spray alright. If not, I'd spot treat them after grazing.

Tbh, I've never done a post emergence spray here, just graze and cut or spot treat any weeds.

good few docks in it and others I’m not sure what they are

Buford T. Justice XIX

High bike wrote: »

good few docks in it and others I’m not sure what they are

Spray so, I'd say. This is the best time to tackle docks and a bit of spot spraying afterwards will sort the remainder.

High bike

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Spray so, I'd say. This is the best time to tackle docks and a bit of spot spraying afterwards will sort the remainder.

have it sprayed a week ago am wondering should I graze or cut it??

Buford T. Justice XIX

High bike wrote: »

have it sprayed a week ago am wondering should I graze or cut it??

Regular grazing and feed it well would be my advice. The guys who are well up on this on Twitter would graze at low covers regularly to tiller it and compete with weed grasses.

High bike

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Regular grazing and feed it well would be my advice. The guys who are well up on this on Twitter would graze at low covers regularly to tiller it and compete with weed grasses.

will prob go with that thanks

DJ98

What's the best spray to use to kill off a filed for reseeding? Plenty of thistles and rushes in the field, would these want to be topped first?

Siamsa Sessions

DJ98 wrote: »

What's the best spray to use to kill off a filed for reseeding? Plenty of thistles and rushes in the field, would these want to be topped first?

Glyphosate is the way to go...

"When you absolutely positively got to kill every mother ****er in the room" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQNYPYFq1c

Ask in the local merchant or co-op and they'll have something for you.

Re thistles/rushes: I'd be inclined to spray first rather than topping. The danger if you top first is the spray will be absorbed by topped dead material instead of getting down to the stem and root of the plant. If the thistles and rushes are very tall, it might be worth getting someone in to mulch them 10-14 days after spraying. We did this when reclaiming a few acres last August and it was a great job.

cacs

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

Glyphosate is the way to go...

"When you absolutely positively got to kill every mother ****er in the room" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQNYPYFq1c

Ask in the local merchant or co-op and they'll have
something for you.

I

Re thistles/rushes: I'd be inclined to spray first rather than topping. The danger if you top first is the spray will be absorbed by topped dead material instead of getting down to the stem and root of the plant. If the thistles and rushes are very tall, it might be worth getting someone in to mulch them 10-14 days after spraying. We did this when reclaiming a few acres last August and it was a great job.

I had a field the same. I topped it three or four weeks ago fertilised it with one bag to the acre of nitrogen. Sprayed it off with roundup at the weekend going to graze it right next week. Then disc

Buford T. Justice XIX

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

Glyphosate is the way to go...

"When you absolutely positively got to kill every mother ****er in the room" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQNYPYFq1c

Ask in the local merchant or co-op and they'll have something for you.

Re thistles/rushes: I'd be inclined to spray first rather than topping. The danger if you top first is the spray will be absorbed by topped dead material instead of getting down to the stem and root of the plant. If the thistles and rushes are very tall, it might be worth getting someone in to mulch them 10-14 days after spraying. We did this when reclaiming a few acres last August and it was a great job.

Ideally, for Roundup, you would want whatever is in the field to be growing well. If you're in a hurry, spray and kill everything now but you'll want to be spraying again after emergence.

Topping a few weeks before you want to reseed and hitting the rushes and thistles when they can absorb the Roundup best would be something to keep in mind when you're doing it again.

Parishlad

Post Emergence Spray......or lack of!

Reseeded a couple of acres earlier in the Summer. Was going to hit it with some form of post emergence spray after 6 weeks but that coincided with the turn in the weather and between hardly having a right day to go spraying and not wanting to tear up the ground with it being so wet, I haven't been able to spray.

The grass is strong now and could do with being grazed soon. There are a few docks in it and chickweed also. However, I have a feeling that I'd be wasting my time with post emergence spray so I'm trying to figure out what's the best plan. Should I just graze it and wait until next year to spray or should I chance spraying (if I get a fine/suitable day, which doesn't look likely at the minute)?

Reggie.

Parishlad wrote: »

Post Emergence Spray......or lack of!

Reseeded a couple of acres earlier in the Summer. Was going to hit it with some form of post emergence spray after 6 weeks but that coincided with the turn in the weather and between hardly having a right day to go spraying and not wanting to tear up the ground with it being so wet, I haven't been able to spray.

The grass is strong now and could do with being grazed soon. There are a few docks in it and chickweed also. However, I have a feeling that I'd be wasting my time with post emergence spray so I'm trying to figure out what's the best plan. Should I just graze it and wait until next year to spray or should I chance spraying (if I get a fine/suitable day, which doesn't look likely at the minute)?

Yeah just graze it

Parishlad

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah just graze it

Good man Reggie, thanks!

Reggie.

Parishlad wrote: »

Good man Reggie, thanks!

Grazing should sort out the chickweed

GrasstoMilk

Graze it and spray it early next year

Parishlad

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Graze it and spray it early next year

I suppose I need to be careful what spray I use next year. Aren't a lot of sprays not suitable for reseeds within 12 months or something along those lines?

GrasstoMilk

Parishlad wrote: »

I suppose I need to be careful what spray I use next year. Aren't a lot of sprays not suitable for reseeds within 12 months or something along those lines?

Pastor trio or forefront is what we use.
If you want a good kill on weeds you'll have to use those to.
Those sprays are not clover safe so you'll have to stitch it back in after

nhg

Pulling this thread back up as its packed with great information for anyone thinking of reseeding/stitching.

We plan on reseeding a percentage of the farm each year going forward, graze, spray off and a few runs of the Tine Harrow and seed on the last run followed by the roller. Also thinking of possibly buying a Disc Harrow down the line if needs be. Not ploughing as any fields that were ploughed here for reseeded are hard to drive on....

We have the rakeman 3000 3M with the APV air seeder and going to upgrade the air seeder to the pneumatic version any recomendations on which one we should be looking at.

Looking at the options of keeping the Rakeman 3000 (best thing that ever came into the place - still like new), selling the APV AirSeeder (got very little use) and adding the pneumatic Air seeder or selling the full setup we have and buying a new Rakeman 3000 complete with the pneumatic AirSeeder.

All suggestions welcome.....

Reggie.

nhg wrote: »

Pulling this thread back up as its packed with great information for anyone thinking of reseeding/stitching.

We plan on reseeding a percentage of the farm each year going forward, graze, spray off and a few runs of the Tine Harrow and seed on the last run followed by the roller. Also thinking of possibly buying a Disc Harrow down the line if needs be. Not ploughing as any fields that were ploughed here for reseeded are hard to drive on....

We have the rakeman 3000 3M with the APV air seeder and going to upgrade the air seeder to the pneumatic version any recomendations on which one we should be looking at.

Looking at the options of keeping the Rakeman 3000 (best thing that ever came into the place - still like new), selling the APV AirSeeder (got very little use) and adding the pneumatic Air seeder or selling the full setup we have and buying a new Rakeman 3000 complete with the pneumatic AirSeeder.

All suggestions welcome.....

Most simple and cheapest seeder out there would be the guttler. Just plug in and go. Bit of setting up at the start but once done it's done forever. Cheaper and less electronics than the APV.

Think your in galway so if you got onto john in dolan industries he might be even to mount it if you bought off him.

nhg

KK/Tipp border...

Only going to be reseeding about 20-30 acres a year...

Priced the Guttler today after your post €10K + vat for the roller & seeder section. €16.5K plus vat for the full rig - only a 75 HP tractor so not a hope either way...

Don't think they make the 6m Rakeman anymore.

Reggie.

nhg wrote: »

KK/Tipp border...

Only going to be reseeding about 20-30 acres a year...

Priced the Guttler today after your post €10K + vat for the roller & seeder section. €16.5K plus vat for the full rig - only a 75 HP tractor so not a hope either way...

Don't think they make the 6m Rakeman anymore.

I meant the guttler seeder on its own to sit on the rakeman. About 4.5k

Water John

Reggie,€3K for the Rakemann 3000 and €4.5K for the seeder?
Tried the Dolan Industries website but blocked by ESET because of virus threat.

High bike

Quick question.Did a bit of reseeding 6/7 weeks ago and due to lack of rain it’s a bit slow taking off .Would it be ok to throw a few heifers approx 420 kgs into it or wait and cut it .Prob should be sprayed but thinking of grazing instead,what o ye think???

Reggie.

Water John wrote: »

Reggie,€3K for the Rakemann 3000 and €4.5K for the seeder?
Tried the Dolan Industries website but blocked by ESET because of virus threat.

Unfortunately thats the cost of the airseeder if ya want one. If going hydraulic add another 1k