The Reseeding/Stitching Discussion Thread.

Reggie.

Dunedin wrote: »

Is a week long enough in this weather enough to leave burning off (roundup) before tilling for reseeding?

Hard to know. Suppose if you start to see a good kill maybe you will get away with it

DJ98

No resseeding has been carried out here in over 20 years, all the land needs to be limed and reseeded, was wondering what it would cost per acre to reseed a 3 acre field with a high clover grass and content with typhon mixed through to finish lambs. Would June be an ideal time for this? How soon after sowing could the typhon be grazed?

Limestone Cowboy

Sprayed off a 2 acre field that was drained last year for a neighbour 14 days ago. Mix of grass and rushes that were topped 6 weeks before spraying. Grass is gone well brown now but rushes are very slow changing colour. Would I want to hit it again for him?

Jb1989

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sprayed off a 2 acre field that was drained last year for a neighbour 14 days ago. Mix of grass and rushes that were topped 6 weeks before spraying. Grass is gone well brown now but rushes are very slow changing colour. Would I want to hit it again for him?

Rushes will take few months to go brown they very stubborn unlike grass especially because rush has inside sponge and outside layer covered. Once weather conditions were OK then its in the system. Wouldn't pass remarks on redoing

Dunedin

Sowed grass seed today. How soon should I go with (watery) slurry and is it better to go with splash plate, umbilical or injected or does it matter

Reggie.

Dunedin wrote: »

Sowed grass seed today. How soon should I go with (watery) slurry and is it better to go with splash plate, umbilical or injected or does it matter??

Oversown or fully reseed

Dunedin

Reggie. wrote: »

Oversown or fully reseed

Full reseed. Two cuts of disk, one power harrow

GrasstoMilk

Dunedin wrote: »

Full reseed. Two cuts of disk, one power harrow

What fert did it get at sowing?
Dor a full reseed we go with 3-4 bags if 10 10 20 at sowing and then 1.5 bags of 18 6 12 a month later

Reggie.

Dunedin wrote: »

Full reseed. Two cuts of disk, one power harrow

Keep slurry away from that will the grass is established. A few bags of 10 10 20 per acre before rolling is what ya need

Dunedin

Reggie. wrote: »

Keep slurry away from that will the grass is established. A few bags of 10 10 20 per acre before rolling is what ya need

Got four bags to the acre of the Nutric start

https://grasslandagro.ie/soil-grass-nutrition/enhanced-nitrogen-phosphorus-fertilisers/nutrisystem/

Got two bags of granlime as well And rolled straight afterwards.

So you’re saying hold off on slurry till the grass comes???

Reggie.

Dunedin wrote: »

Got four bags to the acre of the Nutric start

https://grasslandagro.ie/soil-grass-nutrition/enhanced-nitrogen-phosphorus-fertilisers/nutrisystem/

Got two bags of granlime as well And rolled straight afterwards.

So you’re saying hold off on slurry till the grass comes???

Slurry has been known to burn the seedlings sometimes. Not worth the risk

Dinzee Conlee

DJ98 wrote: »

No resseeding has been carried out here in over 20 years, all the land needs to be limed and reseeded, was wondering what it would cost per acre to reseed a 3 acre field with a high clover grass and content with typhon mixed through to finish lambs. Would June be an ideal time for this? How soon after sowing could the typhon be grazed?

Never sowed tyfon in a reseed, so cant help you there, but I came across this a while back... you might find it interesting...
https://www.teagasc.ie/media/website/publications/2010/ReseedingPastureChicoryOrTyfon.pdf

DJ98

If a field was reseeded in August, when would it be suitable for grazing by sheep?October or November?

Reggie.

DJ98 wrote: »

If a field was reseeded in August, when would it be suitable for grazing by sheep?October or November?

All depends on the weather and growth really. You would want the grass established enough that the sheep weren't going to pull the seedlings outta the ground

Dinzee Conlee

DJ98 wrote: »

If a field was reseeded in August, when would it be suitable for grazing by sheep?October or November?

I would have said 7-8 weeks good growth... so kinda depends on when in August you reseed...

Downtown123

Has anyone any experience with an Astonenergy monoculture or Diamond High Digestibility? Residuals look very good and having problems with a fresh reseed of Abergain, Aberchoice and Drumbo atm. Cows hate it.

GrasstoMilk

Downtown123 wrote: »

Has anyone any experience with an Astonenergy monoculture or Diamond High Digestibility? Residuals look very good and having problems with a fresh reseed of Abergain, Aberchoice and Drumbo atm. Cows hate it.

That's strange. They are good varieties and have good graze outs on the teagasc trials. What was the field like before you reseeded it?

Downtown123

Never reseeded before. The grazeouts were nothing noteable either way before. Now it stands out like a sore thumb. We reseeded silage ground with it too and its the same story. No matter the circumstance we can never get it right. The silage field with it is 30acres and the grazing platfotm field is 7 acres. Reseeded around the same time two years ago.

White Clover

Downtown123 wrote: »

Never reseeded before. The grazeouts were nothing noteable either way before. Now it stands out like a sore thumb. We reseeded silage ground with it too and its the same story. No matter the circumstance we can never get it right. The silage field with it is 30acres and the grazing platfotm field is 7 acres. Reseeded around the same time two years ago.

What's the ph like?

Reggie.

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

That's strange. They are good varieties and have good graze outs on the teagasc trials. What was the field like before you reseeded it?

That's what I was on about before. Hearing cases of cattle not cleaning out the abergain

Reggie.

Downtown123 wrote: »

Has anyone any experience with an Astonenergy monoculture or Diamond High Digestibility? Residuals look very good and having problems with a fresh reseed of Abergain, Aberchoice and Drumbo atm. Cows hate it.

You could try Agritech No 4 or 4a if you dont want clover. Good results around this area with it

Say my name

Downtown123 wrote: »

Has anyone any experience with an Astonenergy monoculture or Diamond High Digestibility? Residuals look very good and having problems with a fresh reseed of Abergain, Aberchoice and Drumbo atm. Cows hate it.

Declare me bonkers.

But seawater sprayed on at 4 litres per acre diluted at 20:1 would solve those palatable issues.
The only caveat being I think you're nearly better doing it in a wet time just in case it might slightly add to a faster drying up of soil. With the memories of last year still fresh.

But I've done it myself and it definitely would improve those palatable issues.
I kind of think it wouldn't matter which varieties you use after. I've Tyrella in a field and kind of had problems before but went with the diluted seawater two years ago and no problems since.

Markcheese

Say my name wrote: »

Declare me bonkers.

But seawater sprayed on at 4 litres per acre diluted at 20:1 would solve those palatable issues.
The only caveat being I think you're nearly better doing it in a wet time just in case it might slightly add to a faster drying up of soil. With the memories of last year still fresh.

But I've done it myself and it definitely would improve those palatable issues.
I kind of think it wouldn't matter which varieties you use after. I've Tyrella in a field and kind of had problems before but went with the diluted seawater two years ago and no problems since.

Just before grazing.?
Is it just that they like the salt?

charolais0153

Markcheese wrote: »

Just before grazing.?
Is it just that they like the salt?

ya they do have sodium in that goudings sweetgraze a while back, thought it was a good job

Water John

Going to oversow cereal crop with grass/clover mix. Will a spinner do it evenly? Set before with a wagtail which did it fine.

Reggie.

Water John wrote: »

Going to oversow cereal crop with grass/clover mix. Will a spinner do it evenly? Set before with a wagtail which did it fine.

Evenly...ish. hard to be accurate with wind and such

Water John

I'd get the contractor to do it with the pneumatic drill in a raised position but silage season has already kicked in. Looking to do it in 2/3 weeks time. Thanks Reggie.

Say my name

Markcheese wrote: »

Just before grazing.?
Is it just that they like the salt?

There's 90 minerals (so they say) in seawater.

Give it a weeks growth after grazing. And then go. It'll darken up the grass like you went out with a heavy round of nitrogen and you'll probably see a bounce in growth. But the stock will skin it to the ground.
Going by here it'll last a few years anyway.

I'm not sure I'd go everywhere being that it might be a dry year. But for old ground and stock rejecting grass then it'll do no harm. I haven't had a bad effect with it anyway. But it's a maybe once in a 5 year or more job.

ganmo

Say my name wrote: »

There's 90 minerals (so they say) in seawater.

Give it a weeks growth after grazing. And then go. It'll darken up the grass like you went out with a heavy round of nitrogen and you'll probably see a bounce in growth. But the stock will skin it to the ground.
Going by here it'll last a few years anyway.

I'm not sure I'd go everywhere being that it might be a dry year. But for old ground and stock rejecting grass then it'll do no harm. I haven't had a bad effect with it anyway. But it's a maybe once in a 5 year or more job.

theres only 88 elements in the normal peroidic table of the elements, 10 of them are gasses at sea temp so that bit I'm calling bull carp

Buford T. Justice XIX

ganmo wrote: »

theres only 88 elements in the normal peroidic table of the elements, 10 of them are gasses at sea temp so that bit I'm calling bull carp

Elements are the basic building blocks of compounds and minerals are composed of many elements