AI Senior Hurling- Liam McCarthy Cup 2018

paddyirish23

terryrogers wrote: »

I have a suspicion Owens may have got the final due to his habit of keeping the losing team in a game and playing for draws. A lot of refs are at that craic but Owens is the worst. I'd like to see his stats but it can be seen in the table above that his last 2 AI semi's ended in draws. Think he was involved in a drawn league final a few years ago too.

The most comical one was a qualifier between kilkenny & Waterford a few years ago where he blew up for a draw in injury time after a kilkenny player struck the ball but before it went over the bar!

His style does make for more exciting games though. Won't hurt the GAA either if he earns them €4m with a replay. My advice is get on the draw @ 9/1.

My thoughts exactly!! Anyone know when the replay would be in if it's a draw??

Sycamore Tree

Not convinced. I reckon GAA have used up their manufactured draw quota in hurling this year. I reckon one of the football semis will be a draw.

mountgomery burns

MfMan wrote: »

Maher has often gone for the big flashy clearance to the detriment of his defending; Conor Whelan picked his pocket for an important point in the 2015 semi-final in this way.

10 excellent years for Tipp, probably waned a bit this year. O Sullivan played full back at inter county so hard for me to attest to his athleticism, but I've seen Maher show wing forwards a clean set of heels several times and rove forward for points.

Royal Legend

spurshero wrote: »

Let him off. These refs are beginning to think there the star of the show .

If I was picking the best referee for the final, McGrath would not be even considered IMO,

Some of the Hurling refs are too full of their own importance, McGrath being one, Horgan another.

windy shepard henderson

think Paud O'Dwyer from carlow is his name , the referee who reffed the cork v limerick was excellent that day and the few other times i have seen him , very much keeps p wit the pace and lets a lot of the softer frees go he would have been ideal for the final . james mcgrath is no where near that level in my opinion

Pogue eile

Has to be said some load of hore sh*te being spouted here the referee conspiracy takes the biscuit though!

TheRiverman

Derek McGrath has me thinking,anyone remember Max Smile blades ?.

tipp_tipp_tipp

Can't shake off the feeling Limerick are going to do it on Sunday. As a Tipp man, not sure which is worse, Galway going the double (which we've failed to do for so long), or playing "the All Ireland Champs Limerick" in Munster next year Nah in all honesty hope Limerick do it. Would be great for the game. Can't wait for Sunday now!

threeball

As a Galway man it's unfortunate that our all Ireland came at the expense of Waterford rather than kk, cork or tipp.
I thought limerick were going to be our opponents in the final all year but I think they're too like us for their own good. Clare caused us problems with movement that I don't think limerick will and I don't think they'll over power or out hurl us. I think this Galway team has it's heart set on emulating the 87, 88 team. Again unfortunate as two teams I'd like to see win one are limerick and Waterford.

Slieve Gullion

dastardly00 wrote: »

The GAA have bucked the trend this year by picking James Owens to ref the AI final, and not James McGrath.

There has been a very clear trend in recent years of who will take charge of the AI final, and 2018 should have been James McGrath's turn.

The trend, from 2017 to 2010 (that's as far back as I have looked, and far enough to illustrate a trend), is that the referee chosen for the AI final:
(i) wasn't in charge of either of the AI Semi-finals
(ii) was in charge of an AI Quarter-final
(iii) was likely to have been in charge for either the Leinster or Munster provincial finals

As the table below shows, James McGrath didn't take charge of a semi-final, and he did ref a quarter final and a provincial final. On the other hand, James Owens did ref a semi-final but no quarter final.

Just as another example, in 2016 Brian Gavin was in charge of the AI final, quarter final and provincial final, but not a semi-final.

Year | Final | Semi-Final (Leinster Winner) | Semi-Final (Munster Winner) | Quarter-Finals | Leinster Final | Munster Final
2018 | J Owens | J Owens / F Horgan (Replay) | P O'Dwyer | F Horgan & J McGrath | F Horgan / J Owens (Replay) | J McGrath
2017 | F Horgan | B Kelly | J Owens | C Lyons & F Horgan | C Lyons | F Horgan
2016 | B Gavin | J Owens / J McGrath (Replay) | B Kelly | A Kelly & B Gavin | F Horgan | B Gavin
2015 | J Owens | B Gavin | B Kelly | J Ryan & J Owens | J McGrath | J Owens
2014 | B Kelly / B Gavin (Replay) | J McGrath | J Owens | B Kelly & B Gavin | B Kelly | B Gavin
2013 | B Gavin / J McGrath (Replay) | J Owens | J Ryan | B Kelly & B Gavin | J Ryan | J McGrath
2012 | B Kelly / J McGrath (Replay) | B Gavin | C McAllister | B Kelly & M Wadding | J McGrath | C McAllister
2011 | B Gavin | B Kelly | C McAllister | B Gavin & C McAllister | B Kelly | B Gavin
2010 | M Wadding | B Gavin | J Sexton | M Wadding & J Owens | M Wadding | B Gavin

Now maybe this is all whataboutery... and GAA HQ have decided in their eyes to pick the best ref for the final, but I can understand why James McGrath has thrown the toys out of the pram.

My thought on this is Coady had to keep his mouth shut after the Limerick match. He so much wanted to whinge about McGrath but he had to bite his tongue. Coady got his payback using his influence with the refereeing panel to ensure McGrath didn't get this years final.

Dyr

I wonder would there be any appetite to make inter county refs a paid full time gig? Knock a lot of this messing on the head

BloodyBill

mountgomery burns wrote: »

MfMan wrote: »

Maher has often gone for the big flashy clearance to the detriment of his defending; Conor Whelan picked his pocket for an important point in the 2015 semi-final in this way.

10 excellent years for Tipp, probably waned a bit this year. O Sullivan played full back at inter county so hard for me to attest to his athleticism, but I've seen Maher show wing forwards a clean set of heels several times and rove forward for points.

'Clean set of heels'.. !? He's scored points but he's never outpaced anyone..must be the slowest back in the Tipp squad. Great hands and attitude though..probably seen the best of him unfortunately.

BloodyBill

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

Can't shake off the feeling Limerick are going to do it on Sunday. As a Tipp man, not sure which is worse, Galway going the double (which we've failed to do for so long), or playing "the All Ireland Champs Limerick" in Munster next year Nah in all honesty hope Limerick do it. Would be great for the game. Can't wait for Sunday now!

'Welcome home the hero's' will be the banner.. probably 100,000 in Limerick for the homecoming and JP McManus to give all players and mentors 250,000 euro each. And Calvin Harris to DJ

paddyirish23

If this goes to a replay, and it prob will, what's the date they've pencilled in for?

kala85

paddyirish23 wrote: »

If this goes to a replay, and it prob will, what's the date they've pencilled in for?

8th September as far as I know

PhuckHugh

I was just reading there on another forum that there's a bit of tension in the Limerick camp ... phone's being taken from players from management... the post was then promptly deleted .... this media ban is out of control.

Realt Dearg Sec

paddyirish23 wrote: »

If this goes to a replay, and it prob will, what's the date they've pencilled in for?

If they're following standard GAA protocol, theyll have no plan in place and just kind of hope it doesn't come up.

phkk

PhuckHugh wrote: »

I was just reading there on another forum that there's a bit of tension in the Limerick camp ... phone's being taken from players from management... the post was then promptly deleted .... this media ban is out of control.

Really????

Greensoup

phkk wrote: »

Really????

If it’s on an Internet forum it must be true. Must be.

OldMrBrennan83

Doesn't mean it's not though.

paddyirish23

Greensoup wrote: »

If it’s on an Internet forum it must be true. Must be.

Maybe just maybe those so called journalists who they won't speak to outside of the press day they had are stiring the pot...
Keep the heads down lads and let's just concentrate on Sunday!! Hon Limerick!!

dastardly00

Greensoup wrote: »

If it’s on an Internet forum it must be true. Must be.

But it was deleted from the other forum... does that make it more or less true? :pac: :pac: :pac:

brendanwalsh

Anyone have any suggestions where a limerick fan would get tickets if they've no connection to a club?

Thanks

paddyirish23

Hope for done deal? Might get one in the day but sounds like not many around

Diabhal Beag

Go Kilmacud 7's but your chances are slim

willietherock

Anyone know if there are buses running from Heuston to Croke Park on Sunday?

kala85

willietherock wrote: »

Anyone know if there are buses running from Heuston to Croke Park on Sunday?

That would be too much of a good idea for the transport companies to organise.

Never seen a bus before but it would be great.

Normally get a luas to connolly then walk to croker about 10 mins walk.

djPSB

willietherock wrote: »

Anyone know if there are buses running from Heuston to Croke Park on Sunday?

Shtop that would make too much sense.

This is Ireland.

dilallio

willietherock wrote: »

Anyone know if there are buses running from Heuston to Croke Park on Sunday?

At Heuston, walk south along the Luas track (up the hill), turn left onto James St. and get the 123 bus here (6 min walk):

https://goo.gl/maps/Q6SaLPMCeGS2

Take the 123 (Marino) to North Strand (Ballybough Rd) and Croke Park is a 5 min walk from there.

puzl

Tickets are starting to show up. Know of a few people who had given up hope who have managed to get a hold of the odd ticket. Get out there like a hoor and you might get lucky.