2018 Regular Season Thread

circular flexing

Ohtani got knocked around by Boston a bit - 3 runs on 4 hits in 2 innings. Pulled after the 2nd.

ShyMets

circular flexing wrote: »

Ohtani got knocked around by Boston a bit - 3 runs on 4 hits in 2 innings. Pulled after the 2nd.

Reports are that he developed a bolster on the finger of his throwing hand

jack presley

ShyMets wrote: »

Reports are that he developed a bolster on the finger of his throwing hand

Bolster sounds like some science fiction device for throwing 150mph fastballs

ShyMets

jack presley wrote: »

Bolster sounds like some science fiction device for throwing 150mph fastballs

Blister On his finger. Looks like predictive text didn't do it's job very well

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Nice to see the Nats get back to back wins against the Mets.

jack presley

ShyMets wrote: »

Blister On his finger. Looks like predictive text didn't do it's job very well

Ah yeah I knew that. Just trying to be a smart f&€ker.

jack presley

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Nice to see the Nats get back to back wins against the Mets.

No it’s not.....!!!!!

Seriously though, they should still coast to the division but with the Braves, Phillies on Mets doing alright it won’t be wrapped up as early this year.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

jack presley wrote: »

No it’s not.....!!!!!

Seriously though, they should still coast to the division but with the Braves, Phillies on Mets doing alright it won’t be wrapped up as early this year.

Oh no it seriously is. We needed that big turn around two games ago. I think yeah we should still win the division especially when we get Murph back (aka - Kryptonite for Mets, Phillies and Braves) but the entire division is playing pretty well. Going to be an interesting year.

jack presley

Jose Bautista's signed with the Braves. Only a minor league deal and he's due to play 3B for them.

Waitsian

jack presley wrote: »

Jose Bautista's signed with the Braves. Only a minor league deal and he's due to play 3B for them.

And the Braves are in Toronto this year for Interleague. He's going to get a hell of an ovation if/when he comes to bat.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

jack presley wrote: »

Jose Bautista's signed with the Braves. Only a minor league deal and he's due to play 3B for them.

Solid signing for them I think.

Wooo, Dodgers almost back to .500 and on a 4 game winning streak. Good luck everyone else :P

ShyMets

The Reds fire Manager Bryan Price. A little harsh. I know they're 3-15 but they're not exactly stacked with talent.

jack presley

Every now and then we get 2 great pitchers going against each other.


https://twitter.com/jamalcollier/status/986968058999685121?s=21

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

jack presley wrote: »

Every now and then we get 2 great pitchers going against each other.


https://twitter.com/jamalcollier/status/986968058999685121?s=21

Looking forward to it. SOOOOOO looking forward to it.

jack presley

I'm watching the Cubs/Cards at the moment and the Cubs are up 6-1. I missed the beginning but they've just showed the sequence of at-bats that led to the Cards run in the first. Such bad play by the Cubs.

osarusan

Not really a baseball fan, but was watching some highlights, and had a question. Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, hope that's ok.

Imagine a team scoring the winning run in the bottom of the ninth in this situation: scores are tied, there are runners on third base and on second base. The batter hits a groundball right up the middle past the second baseman, and it is immediately obvious that the runner on third will score and win the game - so obvious in fact, that the outfielders don't even collect the ball or make any play, they just leave the field.

Is the game officially over the moment the runner at third base touches home plate (and/or the batter reaches first, whichever happens first), or could the runner on second base run home too (and the batter too, come to think of it) and ad another run?

and, in what I suppose is a related question, if it had been a game-ending home run, would all runners and batter have to complete the bases for the runs to be scored? What happens, if, once the winning run has come from third base and touched home plate, the runner on second and the batter immediately all start celebrating and never actually get round the bases? Are 3 runs still added to the score regardless? Or would that simply never happen?

osarusan

osarusan wrote: »

Not really a baseball fan, but was watching some highlights, and had a question. Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, hope that's ok.

Imagine a team scoring the winning run in the bottom of the ninth in this situation: scores are tied, there are runners on third base and on second base. The batter hits a groundball right up the middle past the second baseman, and it is immediately obvious that the runner on third will score and win the game - so obvious in fact, that the outfielders don't even collect the ball or make any play, they just leave the field.

Is the game officially over the moment the runner at third base touches home plate (and/or the batter reaches first, whichever happens first), or could the runner on second base run home too (and the batter too, come to think of it) and ad another run?

and, in what I suppose is a related question, if it had been a game-ending home run, would all runners and batter have to complete the bases for the runs to be scored? What happens, if, once the winning run has come from third base and touched home plate, the runner on second and the batter immediately all start celebrating and never actually get round the bases? Are 3 runs still added to the score regardless? Or would that simply never happen?

In the simplest terms, if it's a safe hit (the batter wont be thrown out at first) then the second the runner on third touches home base, then the game is over, and the team wins by 1

In the case of a home run, all three runs will count, and the team will win by 3, but all three runners will have to come around and touch all the bases

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

osarusan wrote: »

Not really a baseball fan, but was watching some highlights, and had a question. Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, hope that's ok.

Imagine a team scoring the winning run in the bottom of the ninth in this situation: scores are tied, there are runners on third base and on second base. The batter hits a groundball right up the middle past the second baseman, and it is immediately obvious that the runner on third will score and win the game - so obvious in fact, that the outfielders don't even collect the ball or make any play, they just leave the field.

Is the game officially over the moment the runner at third base touches home plate (and/or the batter reaches first, whichever happens first), or could the runner on second base run home too (and the batter too, come to think of it) and ad another run?

and, in what I suppose is a related question, if it had been a game-ending home run, would all runners and batter have to complete the bases for the runs to be scored? What happens, if, once the winning run has come from third base and touched home plate, the runner on second and the batter immediately all start celebrating and never actually get round the bases? Are 3 runs still added to the score regardless? Or would that simply never happen?

The game is over when the third base runner touches home and the batter reaches first in a tied game.

In the second instance it wouldn't happen, you hit a homer you run the bases and that's it.

jack presley

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

The game is over when the third base runner touches home and the batter reaches first in a tied game.

In the second instance it wouldn't happen, you hit a homer you run the bases and that's it.

There is the very rare instance of the walk off 'Grand Slam Single'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_Single

jack presley

Robbing this from wikipedia too, regarding the rules for walk offs etc.

"The rules of baseball[17] provide that:

1. A batter is entitled to a home run only "when he shall have touched all bases legally." (Rule 6.09(d); also 7.05(a))
2. A batter is out, on appeal, for failing to touch each base in order or for passing a preceding runner. In some cases, all runs that score are negated. (Rule 7.10 and 7.12)
3. On a game-winning hit, a batter is credited for the full number of bases only if "the batter runs out his hit." (Rule 10.06(f))
4. A game-winning home run is allowed to complete before the game ends, even if it puts the home team ahead by more than one run. (Rule 4.11(c), Exception; also 10.06(g))

The first point above was problematic in the 1976 American League Championship Series between the New York Yankees and the Kansas City Royals. The Yankees and Royals entered the bottom of the ninth inning of the decisive fifth game with the score tied, 6–6; Mark Littell was the pitcher for Kansas City, and Chris Chambliss was the first batter for New York. Chambliss hit Littell's first pitch into the right field bleachers to win the game and the American League pennant for the Yankees. However, Yankees fans ran onto the field at Yankee Stadium to celebrate the victory, and prevented Chambliss from rounding the bases and touching home plate. Recognizing the impossibility of Chambliss successfully negotiating the sea of people who had been on the field, umpires later escorted Chambliss back out to home plate and watched as he touched it with his foot, thereby making the Yankees victory "official". (A comment to Rule 4.09(b) permits the umpires to award the run if fans prevent the runner from touching home plate.)

The third point above led to Robin Ventura's "Grand Slam Single" in the 1999 NLCS. In the bottom of the 15th inning, the New York Mets tied the score against the Atlanta Braves at 3–3. Ventura came to bat with the bases loaded, and hit a game winning grand slam to deep right. Roger Cedeño scored from third and John Olerud appeared to score from second, but Todd Pratt,[18] on first base when Ventura hit the home run, went to second, then turned around and hugged Ventura as the rest of the team rushed onto the field. The official ruling was that because Ventura never advanced past first base, it was not a home run but a single, and thus only Cedeño's run counted, making the official final score 4–3.

The fourth point above was not a rule prior to 1920; instead, the game ended at the moment the winning run scored. This rule affected the scoring of 40 hits, from 1884 to 1918, that would now be scored as game-winning home runs. Babe Ruth would have been credited with 715 career home runs had the modern rule been in effect in 1918; in a 10-inning game Ruth's fence-clearing, walk-off RBI hit was scored a triple because the game was deemed over when the lead baserunner reached home."

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

jack presley wrote: »

Robbing this from wikipedia too, regarding the rules for walk offs etc.

"The rules of baseball[17] provide that:

1. A batter is entitled to a home run only "when he shall have touched all bases legally." (Rule 6.09(d); also 7.05(a))
2. A batter is out, on appeal, for failing to touch each base in order or for passing a preceding runner. In some cases, all runs that score are negated. (Rule 7.10 and 7.12)
3. On a game-winning hit, a batter is credited for the full number of bases only if "the batter runs out his hit." (Rule 10.06(f))
4. A game-winning home run is allowed to complete before the game ends, even if it puts the home team ahead by more than one run. (Rule 4.11(c), Exception; also 10.06(g))

The first point above was problematic in the 1976 American League Championship Series between the New York Yankees and the Kansas City Royals. The Yankees and Royals entered the bottom of the ninth inning of the decisive fifth game with the score tied, 6–6; Mark Littell was the pitcher for Kansas City, and Chris Chambliss was the first batter for New York. Chambliss hit Littell's first pitch into the right field bleachers to win the game and the American League pennant for the Yankees. However, Yankees fans ran onto the field at Yankee Stadium to celebrate the victory, and prevented Chambliss from rounding the bases and touching home plate. Recognizing the impossibility of Chambliss successfully negotiating the sea of people who had been on the field, umpires later escorted Chambliss back out to home plate and watched as he touched it with his foot, thereby making the Yankees victory "official". (A comment to Rule 4.09(b) permits the umpires to award the run if fans prevent the runner from touching home plate.)

The third point above led to Robin Ventura's "Grand Slam Single" in the 1999 NLCS. In the bottom of the 15th inning, the New York Mets tied the score against the Atlanta Braves at 3–3. Ventura came to bat with the bases loaded, and hit a game winning grand slam to deep right. Roger Cedeño scored from third and John Olerud appeared to score from second, but Todd Pratt,[18] on first base when Ventura hit the home run, went to second, then turned around and hugged Ventura as the rest of the team rushed onto the field. The official ruling was that because Ventura never advanced past first base, it was not a home run but a single, and thus only Cedeño's run counted, making the official final score 4–3.

The fourth point above was not a rule prior to 1920; instead, the game ended at the moment the winning run scored. This rule affected the scoring of 40 hits, from 1884 to 1918, that would now be scored as game-winning home runs. Babe Ruth would have been credited with 715 career home runs had the modern rule been in effect in 1918; in a 10-inning game Ruth's fence-clearing, walk-off RBI hit was scored a triple because the game was deemed over when the lead baserunner reached home."

Interesting the Ventura one, I know if I was betting the overs or the run line I would be seriously annoyed at that happening. Powers would probably pay out on both in good advertising these days.

jack presley

Always know how many outs there are.....!!!!!

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/04/the-mariners-turned-a-bizarre-triple-play-on-the-astros

boccy23

Lots of discussion this morning on talk radio in NY about what to do with Harvey. They can't send him to the minors. He won't accept working from the bullpen. Big decision here for Mickey Calloway.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

boccy23 wrote: »

Lots of discussion this morning on talk radio in NY about what to do with Harvey. They can't send him to the minors. He won't accept working from the bullpen. Big decision here for Mickey Calloway.

Why cant they send him to the minors?

boccy23

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Why cant they send him to the minors?

More than 5 years service time. He would have to agree to it.

jack presley

boccy23 wrote: »

Lots of discussion this morning on talk radio in NY about what to do with Harvey. They can't send him to the minors. He won't accept working from the bullpen. Big decision here for Mickey Calloway.

You know how this plays out? He gets released and turns into 2013 Matt Harvey again.

Calloway doesn't seem a guy who cares about egos so I could see him telling Harvey to go to the pen/LV or go home. He'll probably get a start or two more and maybe Matz or Wheeler will do another quick stint in LV but if Harvey doesn't turn it around soon he'll be out as a starter.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

boccy23 wrote: »

More than 5 years service time. He would have to agree to it.

I don't think he would argue with it. He's being shelled in the majors, clearly needs to work on things and he ain't going to get the time to do that with the Mets.

The question really is about whether he has physical problems from the injuries. At the moment he wouldnt even do a job out of the bullpen.

jack presley

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I don't think he would argue with it. He's being shelled in the majors, clearly needs to work on things and he ain't going to get the time to do that with the Mets.

The question really is about whether he has physical problems from the injuries. At the moment he wouldnt even do a job out of the bullpen.

It's not just him though, it's Boras. And it's a contract year. The last place he'll want him to be is in LV which is apparently amongst the worst pitchers park anywhere.

Although he can't be doing his prospects for securing a big deal any good the way he's pitched so far.

I agree with you on the bullpen use. He wouldn't be any good there either.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

jack presley wrote: »

It's not just him though, it's Boras. And it's a contract year. The last place he'll want him to be is in LV which is apparently amongst the worst pitchers park anywhere.

Although he can't be doing his prospects for securing a big deal any good the way he's pitched so far.

I agree with you on the bullpen use. He wouldn't be any good there either.

Boras knows he needs to pitch well, a trip to the minors might help. Also Boras has one real contract year candidate and he's wearing a Nationals uniform!

Arrieta was far better than Harvey last year and barely got any interest.