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***** Motors chat - round 12 *****
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My main worry with one, and many Japanese cars of that era, would be the sills and the rear quarters. Particularly on them. If there are any bubbles in the paint around the wheelarch, especially near the sill, there are guaranteed horrors behind. :eek::(:( It's why I sourced a non rusty pair of rear quarters a few years back(from a 1.6. They seem to suffer less from rust than the R for some reason). MX 5's can be a disaster for hidden rust. MR2's another. Mitzi's and Scoobies seem to fair a little better.This is gonna end up being a bigger job than I planned as no doubt the more I strip back, the more I'll want to fix.
There was one on Donedeal a few weeks back, a 97 R for 1200 quid ONO. Yep, just over a grand. Was tempted as a donor or just to keep but don't have the space. Oh and it was up for sale for about three weeks. In the UK or Japan it would have gone in hours. In the US they'd sell their grannies to buy it.wotzgoingon wrote: »I always wanted to own a DC2 but to find a good one now would be next to impossible.
Even if you added a zero. Cars like that are almost unsaleable here in Ireland. Those guys who have them for sale at 7,8 and 10 grand are dreaming. No doubt they've put loads into them and I get that, but between insane insurance and to be fair a lack of interest in them here among enough people that's the reality. Most Irish petrolheads have gone RWD and towards Bavaria. I would have myself TBH, only for circumstances and luck.
The rotary scene seems to have hung on healthily enough. I see RX7 and 8's often enough. A mate has just bought one of the latter. Got it for feck all too. The engine is a beautifully engineered petrol leak but my god it's smooth. Saw an FTO in nice nick in Meath last week, but 90's JDM stuff is rare to see. Then again it's over twenty years ago now so...
It's pretty sound W. Paint is so so(well the clear coat in spots. Pure sh1te factory paint on the silver ones). Even though I thought I'd only have it a year or two, the weekend after I bought it I filled the sills, box sections, under the carpet, spare wheel well, bottoms of the doors and arches, leading edges of bonnet and boot with the guts of four cans of waxoyl. I rewax the thing every summer, only now with the Bilt Hamber goo(5/6 cans). Much easier to apply. My dad and an uncle(Italian classic car nutter) made me paranoid about rust from an early age. Even with all that I've had to get a small patch(ciggie packet sized) welded into the inside of one sill a few years back.Wibbs' one looks in great shape from a picture he posted recently.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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It's mad how it goes T. I mean if you go back to the 70's there was a time when secondhand Ferrari's hit the bottom of their depreciation curve and vanished into sheds or were scrapped. I've a few 70's car mags about the place and the classifieds... Ferrari Dinos for the same price as a two year old Ford Cortina E. 2x2 Ferraris were cheaper again(many were reshelled as crappy coupes or spiders). 6 pot E-Types ditto. Oh for a time machine. I wonder does the Tardis take a trailer hitch.Yeah they're hard to find as everyone seems to be breaking them nowadays, never thought I'd see the day where a championship white DC2 Type R is classed as a rare car[insert nearly every car model here].
But sure look at the hot hatches and Cosworths and the like before the JDM scene(more my time, than yours T. I was in early stage oulfella when JDM came along ). Bloody rare to see outside car shows. And there was a time when I knew a few people running those sorta cars as dailies. I was offered a BMW e30 M3 in the late 90's for 4-5 grand. Yer man couldn't give it away. LHD and that. I know one lad who had two of them in his shed, one an Evo. Hard to number the Cossies, Escort, Sierra and Sapphire you'd see or know. They were demons for the rust too and near impossible to insure. Though for a nice change you couldinsure them here. In the UK; Can we have both your kidneys and your first born and an identical Cossie, plus 10,000 Sterlings(that last bit was true).
Though as Jay Leno has noted, "back in the day" as he likes to put it, he was given some older fancy cars. His first Lambo Muira for one. It had a blown engine and as he said back in the early 80's you couldn't get the parts, there were no workshop manuals available, so if they broke they were little more than scrap. Many of the few collectors just bought them for display. Older cars like 20's Dusenbergs were worse. He said you'd go to a fancy concours event and one might have two black tyres of uncertain parentage, one whitewall and a truck tyre, and barely running if running at all. And it would win. According to himself getting tyres alone was a bloody nightmare, but as he says now you can email a few crowds and get the right tyres. Mad money, but you can at least get them.
The interwebs was a major change here. Yes it drove up prices but you can get all the info and most of the parts. Can you imagine T trying to rebuild your Teg without the interwebs? :eek: Good luck. You'd have to ring every Honda garage in Ireland hoping they had some bits and bobs in the back gathering dust. Though pre interwebs you did have that detective work thing ringing and asking the parts guy nicely had he any bits and bobs for Car X. Been there. Oh the Petrolhead cargasm to find a pair of single leaf springs for a 2.8i Capri. And then ring all your mates. That was the pop shot. Ye youngfellas don't know you're born/what you're missing.
Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I texted the fella I sold my DC2 to the other day, out of curiosity, and he wants €10k for it... To think I paid €2400 in 2012 for it!
On an entirely unrelated note, my scooby has shat a radiator on day 6 of ownership and well I'm just glad it's not a headgasket
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He may as well dream there as in bed M. I'd even be willing to bet that if he put it up for sale at 2400 quid he'd be waiting longer than he imagines before he'd get an actual concrete buyer even at that price. He'd do better in the UK alright, if he dropped the price by about 4 grand...Midnight_EG wrote: »I texted the fella I sold my DC2 to the other day, out of curiosity, and he wants €10k for it... To think I paid €2400 in 2012 for it!
Ouch, but yeah significantly less of a headmelt than a headgasket.On an entirely unrelated note, my scooby has shat a radiator on day 6 of ownership and well I'm just glad it's not a headgasketRejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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punisher5112 wrote: »Done well making it on its roof ;-)
Damn mobile. It looked grand in the preview!
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punisher5112 wrote: »Why would you need to know though?
Waiting on a leasing company to send out a tax disk, want to know if it's taxed and there's a physical disc in their office or if they are just completely useless. 0 -
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I'm in my first car, Seat Arona brand new. Had it a month now. Honestly I knew there were a lot of terrible drivers on the road but I'm only now aware the sheer amount of them driving the roads. Cannot comprehend it. It's like roundabouts are alien to people and they've never used them before
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