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Daniel Bryan cleared

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Monokne wrote: »
    This sounds entirely false. Where did you read it?

    The dynamics at play are that on their end they want to be able to avoid a potential lawsuit or an avalanche of bad PR were he to wrestle and something went wrong, and on his end, he wants to able to do what he loves. The idea that they're going to clear him in a minimal nature, perhaps similar to how they used Bret Hart, feels wildly unlikely. For one they wouldn't be protected from a suit, and for a second, he would be unhappy.

    http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/03/19/rumor-daniel-bryan-turning-wrestlemania-34-match/

    Could be BS, but just saw that


  • Registered Users Posts: 60,407 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Pentecost wrote: »
    It’d be funny if he still fecked off at the end of his contract.

    He uses this to show ROH/NJPW that he is ring fit and ready to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    CastorTroy wrote: »

    Interesting. Like I said, I strongly suspect it's false. But we'll see when he wrestles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60,407 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    How long before he puts Roman over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Elated at the news but cautious.

    Strange timing given we're so near to Mania and AJ looks to be in trouble. Sorry, just the cynic in me telling me that sudden circumstance is forcing their hand.

    Bryan has been getting cleared every which way for a long time so really curious to know why now Maroon has suddenly caved.

    Think this SD might be a big one.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Think this SD might be a big one.

    They’ll mention it in opening Segment announce tag match at Mania and que yes chants.

    Then smackdown will proceed as normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Loughc wrote: »
    They’ll mention it in opening Segment announce tag match at Mania and que yes chants.

    Then smackdown will proceed as normal.

    I expect AJ news as well.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Delighted and terrified.

    It appeared on the cards for a while now with the Shane v KO and Sami feud. But while it looked possible I never expected it to actually happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,973 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    my god I didn't expect this

    so he's deff having a match at mania I'd say and his entrance might just blow the roof off the arena

    so what to do with Bryan after mania ??? let him wrestle out his contract and we get some dream matches like vs Styles, Vs Nakamura, Vs Owens etc

    Let's forget that wwe 24 special happend when he 'retired'. Big congrats to him


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,981 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Not too happy about it myself.

    Fear he'll want to prove that he can still work the same style, and will get seriously injured.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Elated at the news but cautious.

    Strange timing given we're so near to Mania and AJ looks to be in trouble. Sorry, just the cynic in me telling me that sudden circumstance is forcing their hand.

    Bryan has been getting cleared every which way for a long time so really curious to know why now Maroon has suddenly caved.


    Think this SD might be a big one.

    I feel like opinions like this really miss the bigger picture.

    Dr Maroon has been extraordinarily sensitive to the damage his reputation took based on his portrayal in the Will Smith movie "Concussion" in which they gave you the impression he was initially dismissive when Dr Bennet Omalu discovered CTE in Mike Webster and brought up the idea that there may be a lot of football players suffering brain damage. That is without doubt a factor in why he was so adamant about Bryan not wrestling.

    The idea that Vince has called him up begging him to clear Bryan because he is in a bind for Wrestlemania is just so poorly thought out. Firstly, if AJ went down, there are a ton of people Vince would turn to before Bryan, who he patently never saw at the same level as his audience. Secondly, it has been known that over the past 4 weeks there have been changes to this story, which has been talked about by John Pollock over at Post Wrestling and by Meltzer in the Observer. This is not something that's just happened since AJ hurt his knee on Friday. Thirdly, like seriously just think this through for a second. Three well known and well respected neurosurgeons & concussion experts have attached their name to this, publicly allowing it be stated this man has a clean bill of health, and much bigger than all that, Maroon himself has attached his name to it as well. For him to go back on his vow not to clear Bryan he has to have seen significant medical evidence that indicates to him this person is capable of performing and not at significant risk in doing so. Put bluntly, it's disrespectful to suggest otherwise.

    I know I'm going long here, but I find these kind's of takes as frustrating and baffling as the "they only took him out of the ring to help Roman" crowd from three years ago.

    There are bigger things at stake here than pro wrestling storylines. This isn't the 80's. The company has shareholders to answer to, they can't expose themselves to a lawsuit to fill a spot on the undercard of Wrestlemania. Renowned doctors are not putting their reputations on the line because Vince is in a bind.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Not too happy about it myself.

    Fear he'll want to prove that he can still work the same style, and will get seriously injured.

    That is my fear but maybe with the time passed and fatherhood he will have sense?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,025 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    DM_7 wrote: »
    That is my fear but maybe with the time passed and fatherhood he will have sense?

    I hope so.

    Its all on Bryan now, the guy has enough pull and star power to determine how much he wrestles and how he chooses to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Fear he'll want to prove that he can still work the same style, and will get seriously injured.

    I remember him coming back from an injury previously & taking ridiculous release half nelson suplexes from Luke Harper. I'd blame Bryan for it more than Harper. Hopefully long term he's been working diligently on that hybrid style he wanted to use & he is used sparingly in ring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Loughc wrote: »
    They’ll mention it in opening Segment announce tag match at Mania and que yes chants.

    Then smackdown will proceed as normal.

    I hope they put the words up on the screen when he says he’s cleared.

    CLEARED!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 PotatoSpud


    Loughc wrote: »
    He still could. Just cause WWE have cleared him doesn’t mean they’ll use him right.

    His booking will be key to if he hangs around or not.
    I think he'll stay regardless but not agree to anything longer than a 12 month contract. The money offered will doubtless be crazy and the guy has a family to think about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Some more info from Meltzer:

    Bryan asked Maroon flat out what he could do to be cleared. Maroon recommended three specialists who's opinions he would listen to - the three mentioned in the press release. Once they had cleared him, Maroon gave it the ok. This is not something that has happened overnight and it's been expected within the company for a few weeks.

    AJ, in a vaguely related topic, is still expected for Mania after being examined in Dallas on Monday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    The Maroon 3


    Sorry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭TheQuietBeatle


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I hope they put the words up on the screen when he says he’s cleared.

    CLEARED!!!

    Instead of yes chant, the fans could start a 'Cleared!' chant while Bryan goes around the arena lifting his fingers up and down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Monokne wrote: »
    I feel like opinions like this really miss the bigger picture.

    Dr Maroon has been extraordinarily sensitive to the damage his reputation took based on his portrayal in the Will Smith movie "Concussion" in which they gave you the impression he was initially dismissive when Dr Bennet Omalu discovered CTE in Mike Webster and brought up the idea that there may be a lot of football players suffering brain damage. That is without doubt a factor in why he was so adamant about Bryan not wrestling.

    The idea that Vince has called him up begging him to clear Bryan because he is in a bind for Wrestlemania is just so poorly thought out. Firstly, if AJ went down, there are a ton of people Vince would turn to before Bryan, who he patently never saw at the same level as his audience. Secondly, it has been known that over the past 4 weeks there have been changes to this story, which has been talked about by John Pollock over at Post Wrestling and by Meltzer in the Observer. This is not something that's just happened since AJ hurt his knee on Friday. Thirdly, like seriously just think this through for a second. Three well known and well respected neurosurgeons & concussion experts have attached their name to this, publicly allowing it be stated this man has a clean bill of health, and much bigger than all that, Maroon himself has attached his name to it as well. For him to go back on his vow not to clear Bryan he has to have seen significant medical evidence that indicates to him this person is capable of performing and not at significant risk in doing so. Put bluntly, it's disrespectful to suggest otherwise.

    I know I'm going long here, but I find these kind's of takes as frustrating and baffling as the "they only took him out of the ring to help Roman" crowd from three years ago.

    There are bigger things at stake here than pro wrestling storylines. This isn't the 80's. The company has shareholders to answer to, they can't expose themselves to a lawsuit to fill a spot on the undercard of Wrestlemania. Renowned doctors are not putting their reputations on the line because Vince is in a bind.
    As I said, I was curious to know why Maroon gave in to what Daniel wanted and got my answer.

    After two years it's a pretty straight forward question for Bryan to ask Maroon what he needed to do to get cleared that I'm surprised that it took Bryan this long to ask him.....but I'm guessing he has asked that question before and was flat out denied an answer.

    Why now is what I'm asking really......and I don't think we've gotten a real answer to that yet. I don't think that's a ton foil question to ask. To me the answer is probably that under current circumstances whatever they may be, it's in their interest to clear him now as it is in his.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Jfhackett


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    That phrase never say never which is used in wrestling a lot really is true.

    HELL YEAH!


  • Registered Users Posts: 60,407 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder will Corey look to be retested now or is he happy with his commentary role.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    I wonder will Corey look to be retested now or is he happy with his commentary role.

    i think in commentary corey found what he was supposed to do hes a far better commentator than wrestler. honestly want very good at all.

    i think his concussion problems were different to bryan as he was getting them constantly (could be wrong there) i think similar to what happened christian who could also look into maybe getting cleared.

    bryan was also doing alot of work to get cleared which i dont know weather the guys have done


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    It's hard to put into words just why and how much this made me smile. Just reading this thread (or more so the title) and then watching SD just made me feel like something purely right was happening. Bryan is just one of those guys that no matter who you are you can't help but liking and seeing what is literally (and not just a line) his dream come true like this is amazing. He did well to not completely tear up during the opening piece of SD for instance when the crowd started chanting "thank you Brie" after he highlighted how his wife was a driving force behind getting him back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,644 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That stuff with DB last night was superb. I can't say I held it together when he thanked Brie. Any other person on the roster is nowhere near him and he's not wrestled for two years. It's just great to see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,973 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I wonder will Bryan leave the GM post and go back to full time wrestler ???

    Doesnt make sense for him to continue the GM post, could he get drafted to Raw in the shake up ?

    so dream matches that may come through ??
    vs Nak
    vs Styles
    vs Balor
    vs Gargano
    will we finally get Kurt Angle vs Bryan


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Great to see him back, I was quite emotional myself.

    There’ll be a whole lot more emotions when he’s being fed to Roman in less than 12 months.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I hope they restrict Bryan's matches.

    If he is ready for full time, and feels the need to work, I would restrict his tv matches to keep him special. Give him the house show bouts where he can entertain and perform easy/safe bouts.
    He could be a very special attraction as a wrestler on TV/PPV/Network.

    Almost like a Brock but with more PPV bouts.

    Really, I have no interest in seeing him in random tv bout number 47 v Dolph Ziggler. Give me a contest on a 'PPV' that is presented to mean something, even v Dolph then yes please.

    I would hate to see all this turn into him in nothing bouts in TV every week.

    They could get a huge run out of him facing dream opponents on PPV and with a second world title now still have the Roman type projects at the same time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    I wonder will Bryan leave the GM post and go back to full time wrestler ???

    Doesnt make sense for him to continue the GM post, could he get drafted to Raw in the shake up ?

    so dream matches that may come through ??
    vs Nak
    vs Styles
    vs Balor
    vs Gargano
    will we finally get Kurt Angle vs Bryan

    Dunno if you’d call it a dream match but a logical and ready made one would be Miz vs Daniel Bryan. Years of a build. The Yes kicks vs the It kicks, the pro and rookie stuff from original NXT, the Talking Smack worked shoot stuff. Excuse the pun, but it would be awesome.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'd be surprised if Miz doesn't address it on Raw next week.


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