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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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    #2462
    yop
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Mark1916 wrote: »
    Hi all - quick question, wondering has anyone got a charger installed in their garage using the fuse box in the garage instead of the main fuse box in the house?

    I have a garage and was going to install it in there rather than on the house somewhere.

    Thanks!

    Depends on the load on the fusebox in the garage and the breaker where the garage supply is coming from on the main board.
    Most garages have sockets, lights and maybe a fridgefreezer or something and not much else.

    But check what you have on the board in the garage and then what breaker the garage is on in the house.


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    #2463
    JohnC.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Mine was done like that. But the garage was built much later than the house and has better cable than even the main board has. But it did require an Eddi for the CT clamps to my Zappi because it wasn't feasible to run the usual wire to the garage without significant work.


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    #2464
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,232 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Well that happened faster than I thought it would.

    Submitted application for SEAI grant with all the paperwork about 20/7, got kicked back for some admon reason, resubmitted and got email confirm 31/7.

    This morning got an email saying money has been paid and should be in account in next few days.

    So about 8 weeks from them accepting the paperwork.


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    #2465
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,874 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    zg3409 wrote: »
    If you don't gave a heavy load item in you house you don't need one. As is no instant electric shower, heat pump etc.

    I've charger and heat pump and no issues so far with both running in parallel. Only charging at 3.6kW though, might change when I get a new car and step up to 7kW

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #2466
    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    I've charger and heat pump and no issues so far with both running in parallel. Only charging at 3.6kW though, might change when I get a new car and step up to 7kW

    Is the charger limited to 3.6kw? If not and there is no load management you will have issues


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    #2467
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,874 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Is the charger limited to 3.6kw? If not and there is no load management you will have issues


    No, I've a Leaf 24 so the car's the limiting factor there. I got a 32 amp cable and charger put in for future proofing, so next car will likely be capable of 7kW charging

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #2468
    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    No, I've a Leaf 24 so the car's the limiting factor there. I got a 32 amp cable and charger put in for future proofing, so next car will likely be capable of 7kW charging

    Well be sure to check with the installer if load balancing function was installed or if charger has limit set to 3.6kw because you will blow your main fuse with heat pump and 7.2kw charge at the same time


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    #2469
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,874 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Well be sure to check with the installer if load balancing function was installed or if charger has limit set to 3.6kw because you will blow your main fuse with heat pump and 7.2kw charge at the same time


    It definitely wasn't because my charger predates that addon.


    Don't worry, I've got it scoped out for a Zappi with load balancing when I upgrade my car

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #2470
    Pique
    Registered Users Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭Pique


    I figured this would be of interest to some here Technology Connections - Car Chargers aren't chargers at all.


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    #2471
    Kramer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Pique wrote: »
    I figured this would be of interest to some here Technology Connections - Car Chargers aren't chargers at all.

    I've tried but it's a waste of time. People want to call them chargers :(.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112327379

    I've been told it's nit picking, splitting hairs etc. It suits manufacturers & installers though - I've seen an invoice for €1,500 for supply & install of a basic unit, untethered, just 4 metres from the consumer unit. One hole drilled, no isolator, as simple as it gets.


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    #2472
    Risteard81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Risteard81


    The correct term is Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment (EVSE).


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    #2473
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Got the letter of offer from SEAI today for the charger grant. Won't have the car until November but I assume I'm now ok to see about having something installed in the coming weeks?


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    #2474
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,874 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Got the letter of offer from SEAI today for the charger grant. Won't have the car until November but I assume I'm now ok to see about having something installed in the coming weeks?


    Yes, but I don't think you'll get your refund from SEAI until you have the car as you'll need to send a copy of the registration cert


    I'd advise going ahead with the installation if you're okay to wait until November to get your grant money. Pinning down an installer can be difficult, you may literally need to pin them down

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #2475
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    Yes, but I don't think you'll get your refund from SEAI until you have the car as you'll need to send a copy of the registration cert


    I'd advise going ahead with the installation if you're okay to wait until November to get your grant money. Pinning down an installer can be difficult, you may literally need to pin them down

    I'll probably be ordering through the VW site (Elli charger) and they have a early November estimate for delivery which I assume is install.


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    #2476
    yop
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I'll probably be ordering through the VW site (Elli charger) and they have a early November estimate for delivery which I assume is install.

    Decent price on the basic model.

    Assume that will charge any EV or PHEV

    1600 quid extra to install.......


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    #2477
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    yop wrote: »
    Decent price on the basic model.

    Assume that will charge any EV or PHEV

    I'll be going for the middle option that has WiFi.

    Either that or go with an EO charger which herself likes better as it's a much smaller box on the wall.


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    #2478
    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I'll be going for the middle option that has WiFi.

    Either that or go with an EO charger which herself likes better as it's a much smaller box on the wall.

    Yeah the VW charger is a substantial sized unit alright


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    #2479
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Yeah the VW charger is a substantial sized unit alright

    It looks flat enough but the EO looks much neater. She's definitely leaning towards that.

    Has anyone here had one installed?


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    #2480
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    It looks flat enough but the EO looks much neater. She's definitely leaning towards that.

    Has anyone here had one installed?

    Yes a few. Cyrus to name one.


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    #2481
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Yes a few. Cyrus to name one.

    Hopefully someone can post about their EO and install process. I'm completely lost on all of this as it's my first EV.


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    #2482
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Hopefully someone can post about their EO and install process.

    Posted already it’s a few pages back :) also on my e-tron thread

    Any other qns shout


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    #2483
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Posted already it’s a few pages back :) also on my e-tron thread

    Any other qns shout

    I'll have a look now. Thanks for that Cyrus.


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    #2484
    yop
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Posted already it’s a few pages back :)also on my e-tron thread

    Any other qns shout

    I hate you.

    My son wud love u though :D

    Well wear


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    #2485
    Heroditas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,442 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    The EO charger is good but don't bother with the smart version. The app is a complete heap of junk and the hub keeps losing connectivity and requires rebooting.


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    #2486
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Heroditas wrote: »
    The EO charger is good but don't bother with the smart version. The app is a complete heap of junk and the hub keeps losing connectivity and requires rebooting.

    Really? That's a bit of a pain.

    Anything of a similar size that might be worth considering?


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    #2487
    Heroditas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,442 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Really? That's a bit of a pain.

    Anything of a similar size that might be worth considering?

    Not sure about size. Do you need the charger to be smart?


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    #2488
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,820 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Heroditas wrote: »
    Not sure about size. Do you need the charger to be smart?

    I don't know if I need smart but I thought it might be a nice option to have. I've an ID3 due in November.


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    #2489
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Heroditas wrote: »
    The EO charger is good but don't bother with the smart version. The app is a complete heap of junk and the hub keeps losing connectivity and requires rebooting.

    Haven’t had that issue myself but I’d agree the app is very basic. That said all I want from it is off peak charging as Audi made it overly complicated from the car and it works perfectly for that .


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    #2490
    Heroditas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,442 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I don't know if I need smart but I thought it might be a nice option to have. I've an ID3 due in November.

    If you can programme the car when to charge, then go for the dumb version of the charger. In my mind anyway, it makes more sense.


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    #2491
    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭eagerv


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I don't know if I need smart but I thought it might be a nice option to have. I've an ID3 due in November.


    You will be able to program charge the ID.3 from the car, it's just not there yet.(As far as I can see).
    But you can set it to a limit atm so it's just a matter of plugging in your car after 23:00 (GMT) to avail of night rates and setting it to charge to 80% or whatever.


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