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Is anyone else starting to become a bit worried? mod note in first post

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,262 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Just looking at DAI, it really is performing well and keeping steady considering how crazy the market is. That's impressive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭99 Bortles of Beer


    Don't worry guys, it's Friday. People traditionally cash out on Fridays to buy supplies for the weekend.

    Right?

    ........Right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭turbot


    The guidance I was always given was:

    (1) Don't invest any amount you can't afford to lose
    (2) There is a chance you'll lose all your money
    (3) There is a chance your investment will appreciate very significantly
    (4) Pay attention and plan to HODL

    And between some friends and I, we figure that only 5% of the Altcoin projects will still be around in 5 years.

    In this regard, Cryptos and especially Alt coins are not dissimilar to being an angel investor in a bunch of new startups.
    1 in 5 or 1 in 10 might work out so well that even if none of the others go anywhere, you still do ok.

    But for sure, 2018 is going to be different than 2017.

    Suffice to say, lots of people used credit to find crypto-purchases in late 2017. IMO, that is a higher risk life tactic versus an investment tactic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,664 ✭✭✭makeorbrake


    Don't worry guys, it's Friday. People traditionally cash out on Fridays to buy supplies for the weekend.

    Right?

    ........Right?
    $200 Billion worth of supplies based on the entire crypto market as a whole over the last couple of days. That's some weekend of supplies. High Class Hookers n' Coke? Must be a hell of a weekend :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    I guess the US has woken up and further added to the carnage. :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭fran426ft


    Cashed out my ETH, everything else has no quick exit to fiat and ETH was my biggest asset. If it finds a bottom I might buy back to recoup some loses but this "correction" only seems to be gaining momentum right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭99 Bortles of Beer


    $200 Billion worth of supplies based on the entire crypto market as a whole over the last couple of days. That's some weekend of supplies. High Class Hookers n' Coke? Must be a hell of a weekend :D

    Well, it is Super Bowl weekend :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭DANNY2014


    It's basically like Harvey Norman the big sale just never ends....😂


  • Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭fran426ft


    fran426ft wrote: »
    Cashed out my ETH, everything else has no quick exit to fiat and ETH was my biggest asset. If it finds a bottom I might buy back to recoup some loses but this "correction" only seems to be gaining momentum right now.

    Ah F**k did I just sell at the botom


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    fran426ft wrote: »
    Ah F**k did I just sell at the botom
    Dead cat bounce possibly, We've seen a few


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    seannash wrote: »
    Dead cat bounce possibly, We've seen a few

    Pretty big bounce for a dead cat. Must be some life left in it. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭TheSheriff


    Woke up about an hour ago (I live in the US), Jesus, what happened overnight ??

    I am extremely close in value now to my initial investment, if it hits that I am getting out


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Steady lads things move up, things move down, Etherum is rebounding on volume by the looks of it, recovered from $768 to $950.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Pretty big bounce for a dead cat. Must be some life left in it. :pac:
    Not really, yesterday someone called bottom because there was green on the hourly charts and today it drops again. It went from 7800 to 8480 now so not much of a bounce up for today


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Squozen wrote: »
    Yep. I’ve eaten the (significant) loss and cashed out. Good luck to the rest of you.

    From personal experience (and this is my own opinion) over the last 5 years in crypto it is never wise to sell at a loss

    a) it suggests that someone had more in that they were willing to lose (bad)
    b) except for a few coins that bombed, the market has shown us nothing but overall gains for 7 years up until very recently
    c) if the coins you sold grow 10 times or 100 times in the future, there will be significant regret
    d) compare the market prices now to market prices this time last year

    Again, and this is only my personal opinion, but loss-selling in a sharp dive is not a wise long-term decision based on the info/market history we have

    For anyone else sitting on the fence about entering crypto - now is potentially a good time to start looking at it, possibly over the next few weeks. The very worst time of course is when everyone is talking about it and gains are vertical, but you simply cannot tell people this


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    From personal experience (and this is my own opinion) over the last 5 years in crypto it is never wise to sell at a loss

    a) it suggests that someone had more in that they were willing to lose (bad)
    b) except for a few coins that bombed, the market has shown us nothing but overall gains for 7 years up until very recently
    c) if the coins you sold grow 10 times or 100 times in the future, there will be significant regret
    d) compare the market prices now to market prices this time last year

    Again, and this is only my personal opinion, but loss-selling in a sharp dive is not a wise long-term decision based on the info/market history we have

    For anyone else sitting on the fence about entering crypto - now is potentially a good time to start looking at it, possibly over the next few weeks. The very worst time of course is when everyone is talking about it and gains are vertical, but you simply cannot tell people this


    "Never sell at a loss". Ha ha, good luck with that one.

    Let's face it, there is no new money coming into crypto at the moment.
    The only people buying are those that previously sold at higher levels.
    Many were trading on margin and have been forced to close their positions.

    I can see Bitcoin slowly drifting down for a while with a few bumps along the way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭mrDerek


    People getting out now are for sure going to regret it before long


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    From personal experience (and this is my own opinion) over the last 5 years in crypto it is never wise to sell at a loss

    a) it suggests that someone had more in that they were willing to lose (bad)
    b) except for a few coins that bombed, the market has shown us nothing but overall gains for 7 years up until very recently
    c) if the coins you sold grow 10 times or 100 times in the future, there will be significant regret
    d) compare the market prices now to market prices this time last year

    Again, and this is only my personal opinion, but loss-selling in a sharp dive is not a wise long-term decision based on the info/market history we have

    For anyone else sitting on the fence about entering crypto - now is potentially a good time to start looking at it, possibly over the next few weeks. The very worst time of course is when everyone is talking about it and gains are vertical, but you simply cannot tell people this
    Selling at a loss can sometimes work if it allows you to increase your stake.
    I'm sure selling at 10k and buying back in at 8k would be more beneficial.(Obviously it depends on what you initially bought in at)

    I think we all know that risking more than you can afford to lose is bad so I wouldn't preach about it, I'm sure people are feeling bad enough as it is.
    As for selling now only to discover in 10 years time its worth 100x the price, well I think even the most unsavvy investor would say that's a no brainer in terms of regret :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,664 ✭✭✭makeorbrake


    mrDerek wrote: »
    People getting out now are for sure going to regret it before long

    There's no 'for sure' in this world...and specifically the crypto world.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    dubrov wrote: »
    "Never sell at a loss". Ha ha, good luck with that one.

    Have never sold at a loss. Neither have most of my friends/colleagues who hold. That's the point I am making. To date: long term holding has produced significant gains despite various crashes - on aggregate most coins have increased

    Traders can make significant amounts playing the market, however I am not a trader, nor would I ever try to compete with them. If a layperson wants to "have a flutter" and try to buy and sell.. good luck to them

    No one has a crystal ball, no one knows what will happen next - what we do know is what the market has done before and what we do know is that most long term holders have been rewarded well


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,882 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    A currency that isn't recognised by a lot of governments. A currency that has absolutely nothing to back it up as real currency has. Gold, oil etc. A currency who's value is set 100 percent on pure speculation.

    What's there to be worried about?


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Squozen


    All I know is that I took the money I had in bitcoin and put it into the S&P 500 and I'm feeling one hell of a lot calmer. I am not a good gambler!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭Tinder Surprise


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    A currency that isn't recognised by a lot of governments. A currency that has absolutely nothing to back it up as real currency has. Gold, oil etc. A currency who's value is set 100 percent on pure speculation.

    What's there to be worried about?

    I hear ya!....but the genie is already out of the bottle.

    Some folk have made a killing from crypto and don't you worry they'll be back.

    Crypto is going nowhere.
    Still in its infancy and the more of the reputable companies get to show their wares on the blockchain then the less volatility we will see thus the more eyes will be opened to its potential.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Squozen wrote: »
    All I know is that I took the money I had in bitcoin and put it into the S&P 500 and I'm feeling one hell of a lot calmer. I am not a good gambler!

    And if a stock market crash came you'd wished you put it in a deposit account

    No risk no reward


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,882 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Crypto is going nowhere. Still in its infancy and the more of the reputable companies get to show their wares on the blockchain then the less volatility we will see thus the more eyes will be opened to its potential.

    Problem is most investors even, don't use the currency.

    There will be a lot of money made & lost before it all ends in tears. The thing is to try to be one of the winners.

    Too risky for me. Biggest risk I took washing buying BOI and AIB shares for a few cent & selling them for euros.


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Squozen


    And if a stock market crash came you'd wished you put it in a deposit account

    No risk no reward

    Difference is that over time the stock market always recovers. Bubbles don't. As I can't be sure which this is, I'm no longer willing to gamble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    A currency that isn't recognised by a lot of governments. A currency that has absolutely nothing to back it up as real currency has. Gold, oil etc. A currency who's value is set 100 percent on pure speculation.

    What's there to be worried about?

    Real currency has nothing to back it up either https://money.howstuffworks.com/currency7.htm


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Problem is most investors even, don't use the currency.

    There will be a lot of money made & lost before it all ends in tears. The thing is to try to be one of the winners.

    Too risky for me. Biggest risk I took washing buying BOI and AIB shares for a few cent & selling them for euros.

    Forex traders don't use the currency either. They hold it, or they trade it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭mrDerek


    There's no 'for sure' in this world...and specifically the crypto world.

    I think it's a safe bet the market will go up from here so yeah I think it's a for sure call crypto isn't just gonna call it a day


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