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White Moose Man v "Social Influencer"...

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭irishman86


    VinLieger wrote: »
    FYP

    No hes definitely the worse here, how to deal with this without being a prat
    "Sorry we dont offer that service"
    He did it as a attention grab, after reading up about him hes a proper disgusting person
    Shes just a idiot
    Hes a idiot who thinks hes clever when in reality the ones agreeing with him are the LCD


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    irishman86 wrote: »
    No hes definitely the worse here, how to deal with this without being a prat
    "Sorry we dont offer that service"
    He did it as a attention grab, after reading up about him hes a proper disgusting person
    Shes just a idiot
    Hes a idiot who thinks hes clever when in reality the ones agreeing with him are the LCD
    LCD - lowest common denominator? You've just insulted 99.9999% of the world


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    fritzelly wrote: »
    The bone of contention with 87k subscribers (that your man probably took some contention with along with everything else) is that none of her videos even/barely hit 30k views and if you know how YT works then you'll know probably most of those views are from a recommended video
    She thinks she's more popular than she really is

    Her last vid is probably trending on YT right now or was lmao

    This is what many posting on here about her having a real job and the need for influencers dont understand, her follower number is pathetic and likely mostly paid for

    Take pewdiepie as an example the most subscribed channel on YT, he has 59 million subs yet his average video only gets between 5-7 million views.

    In no world are all of her followers hanging on every word she says, in all likelihood id wager at least one third are paid for if not closer to half of them


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    irishman86 wrote: »
    No hes definitely the worse here, how to deal with this without being a prat
    "Sorry we dont offer that service"
    He did it as a attention grab, after reading up about him hes a proper disgusting person
    Shes just a idiot
    Hes a idiot who thinks hes clever when in reality the ones agreeing with him are the LCD

    No hes a business man who chooses to run his business in an different manner than you are used to. I never claimed hes a hero but ive no problem with people being called out for bullsh1t entitled nonsense which is what he does and hes managed to make 2 businesses run very successfully of the back of it.

    But hey if you dont like him you dont have to give him your money. I dont think he will be crying to much if you dont.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    VinLieger wrote: »
    This is what many posting on here about her having a real job and the need for influencers dont understand, her follower number is pathetic and likely mostly paid for

    Take pewdiepie as an example the most subscribed channel on YT, he has 59 million subs yet his average video only gets between 5-7 million views.

    In no world are all of her followers hanging on every word she says, in all likelihood id wager at least one third are paid for if not closer to half of them
    5-7 million views is pretty damn amazing, even if his subs are a whole lot more - don't know the channel but will check when I leave the bar


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    fritzelly wrote: »
    5-7 million views is pretty damn amazing, even if his subs are a whole lot more - don't know the channel but will check when I leave the bar

    Ohh it is indeed but proportionately its telling of how many people these so called influencers actually affect out of their total subscriber counts


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Ohh it is indeed but proportionately its telling of how many people these so called influencers actually affect out of their total subscriber counts

    Absolutely, when you see competitions for example saying like us/subscribe for an entry, never to visit them again
    But he still has impressive numbers


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,187 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I'm gonna call myself a social influencer now. Lol. Why the feck not? Create a YouTube and twitter account and pay someone who made a bot to give me thousands of subscribers.

    The only difference is I'll admit to it all being bs ;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I love her. Says it exactly as it is :D

    If you can’t be bothered watching all six minutes, watch from about 4:15 onwards



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭irishman86


    VinLieger wrote: »
    No hes a business man who chooses to run his business in an different manner than you are used to. I never claimed hes a hero but ive no problem with people being called out for bullsh1t entitled nonsense which is what he does and hes managed to make 2 businesses run very successfully of the back of it.

    But hey if you dont like him you dont have to give him your money. I dont think he will be crying to much if you dont.

    No hes a idiot who has a hotel in Dublin which would sell out anyways
    There was no need to call it out, like i said just say they dont offer that service
    The man is a attention whore, whats funny is he offers services similar to what the girl offered to him
    Its irrelevant whether i give him money
    Im not sorry if you get offended for being part of the LCD


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    LCD?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I love her. Says it exactly as it is :D


    This review is brilliant, I'm weak laughing :pac:


    NSFW language btw!




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    LCD?

    Lowest Common Denominator.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    McGaggs wrote: »
    In the email that started this all off, she didn't give any clear benefits, just a vague notion of Universal Orlando being happy with 80k YouTube subscribers seeing their hotel.

    The lack of personalisation in the email shows it up for being just fired off to a few hotels with little thought out into it. Her lack of research is apparent when she doesn't realise the type of person she's contacting. I wonder if she actually has less followers than the white moose/charleville lodge? And I'm not too sure I'd agree with her in the video calling the place stunning...
    Good point actually, she probably contacted several Dublin hotels in the hope that one would give her a free stay so there's probably more to all this than what we've been seeing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I love her. Says it exactly as it is :D

    If you can’t be bothered watching all six minutes, watch from about 4:15 onwards

    This is me being happy - was in tears


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    irishman86 wrote: »
    No hes a idiot who has a hotel in Dublin which would sell out anyways
    There was no need to call it out, like i said just say they dont offer that service
    The man is a attention whore, whats funny is he offers services similar to what the girl offered to him
    Its irrelevant whether i give him money
    Im not sorry if you get offended for being part of the LCD

    Aww can't win with logic so have to resort to pathetic veiled insults? Isnt that literally what your complaining about him doing? bit hypocritical wouldn't you say?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭irishman86


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Aww can't win with logic so have to resort to pathetic veiled insults? Isnt that literally what your complaining about him doing? bit hypocritical wouldn't you say?

    I used logic, you werent capable of understanding it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    This whole thing genuinely saddens me. To think that people think it is okay to abuse one individual on such a viral scale - it really is shocking. I cannot believe some of the vitriol I am reading online, and what's worse is, pages such as "LADbible" and "Joe.ie" and radio stations such as FM104 etc. are actually implying that this is "deserved"?

    This girl sent an email to a hotelier, assuming that it would remain private, and this awful man has exposed her to serious cyberbullying on a huge scale.

    Whether or not people agree or disagree with the content of her email, his actions are completely unjustified. I really hope people will see this for what it is - a desperate attempt to court controversy in order to gain free publicity at the expense of someone's mental health.

    People need to be aware - this man named and shamed a 14 year old girl recently who left him a one star review. This girl was also cyberbullied as a result. He told her to publicly apologise on his page if she wanted the vitriol to stop, so she apologised. He then deleted the entire post from his Facebook page. He is a sick, sick man. One day he will hit on someone who will not have the strength to cope with such nastiness, and when that happens (when it's too late) it will be interesting to see people's reactions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    People need to be aware - this man named and shamed a 14 year old girl recently who left him a one star review. This girl was also cyberbullied as a result. He told her to publicly apologise on his page if she wanted the vitriol to stop, so she apologised. He then deleted the entire post from his Facebook page. He is a sick, sick man. One day he will hit on someone who will not have the strength to cope with such nastiness, and when that happens (when it's too late) it will be interesting to see people's reactions.

    Genuinely never heard anything about that, have you got a link to what happened or is there a blog post about it I can read?

    Irony not intended... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Army_of_One


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    This whole thing genuinely saddens me. To think that people think it is okay to abuse one individual on such a viral scale - it really is shocking. I cannot believe some of the vitriol I am reading online, and what's worse is, pages such as "LADbible" and "Joe.ie" and radio stations such as FM104 etc. are actually implying that this is "deserved"?

    This girl sent an email to a hotelier, assuming that it would remain private, and this awful man has exposed her to serious cyberbullying on a huge scale.
    .
    Get over yerself:rolleyes:
    the bint tried to blag a free stay and got caught out. She doxxed herself so has no one else to blame.
    People need to be aware - this man named and shamed a 14 year old girl recently who left him a one star review. This girl was also cyberbullied as a result. He told her to publicly apologise on his page if she wanted the vitriol to stop, so she apologised. He then deleted the entire post from his Facebook page. He is a sick, sick man. One day he will hit on someone who will not have the strength to cope with such nastiness, and when that happens (when it's too late) it will be interesting to see people's reactions.
    Link ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    Get over yerself:rolleyes:

    Intelligent response there. I am giving an opinion on the topic.
    Link?

    As I said he deleted it. I would have no reason to make that up. Perhaps ask someone who religiously follows him.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    When did it happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Army_of_One


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    As I said he deleted it. .
    Convient that:rolleyes:
    You made it up :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    When did it happen?

    I can't link. Scroll down to 16th September 2017 on the WMC page. As I said - I am not lying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Army_of_One


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    I can't link. Scroll down to 16th September 2017 on the WMC page. As I said - I am not lying.

    Link?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    My favourite is when lovin dublin asked a pub that they had previously pilloried if they would give them a free christmas party in exchange for a write up:

    https://www.buzz.ie/news/pic-oscars-cafe-have-completely-destroyed-lovin-dublin-212727

    My fsvourite online reviewer is a whiskey reviewer named Ralfy Mitchel who refuses to accpet free stuff so that he remains free to give impartial reviews. I honestly dont know why people listen to any reviewer who goes out of their way to solicit free stuff.

    Yer wan runs a fitness blog where the main point of interest is that she shows off her bottom while she does squats. Its unclear how many of her 80k followers, who clearly havent been able to access internet porn, would ever visit dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    I can't link. Scroll down to 16th September 2017 on the WMC page. As I said - I am not lying.

    WMC:

    "I've just deleted my last post as I've learnt that the writer of the one star review was a 14-year old girl and she was getting abuse from followers. I'd like to remind everyone that the reader of a Facebook review does not know the age of its author nor whether the review is a piss take or a dare. When you write a fake negative review on a business you are seeking to damage the reputation of that business. I hope this incident will have taught the individual in question, and others, not to be writing false reviews on establishments for the purpose of piss-taking.

    P.S. We have always and will always have soya milk in the cafe."

    Reply from the original poster of the review:

    "Thankyou Paul I really do appreciate you deleting it . I do understand that I shouldn't of posted the fake review and that it was wrong to do and thanks to the people that understood me.it was stupid of me to post the fake review and I truly apologise , I'm sure the white moose cafe is a great place and I have learnt to be more safer on the internet and to not do anything like this again . Thankyou again Paul.

    WMC:

    No worries at all, *name*. Sorry for any abuse by some of the followers. Call into the cafe sometime and I'll buy you a coffee! Cows milk only though!!!


    .... Followed by many happy, supportive comments directed towards the reviewer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    rawn wrote: »
    WMC:

    "I've just deleted my last post as I've learnt that the writer of the one star review was a 14-year old girl and she was getting abuse from followers. I'd like to remind everyone that the reader of a Facebook review does not know the age of its author nor whether the review is a piss take or a dare. When you write a fake negative review on a business you are seeking to damage the reputation of that business. I hope this incident will have taught the individual in question, and others, not to be writing false reviews on establishments for the purpose of piss-taking.

    P.S. We have always and will always have soya milk in the cafe."

    Reply from the original poster of the review:

    "Thankyou Paul I really do appreciate you deleting it . I do understand that I shouldn't of posted the fake review and that it was wrong to do and thanks to the people that understood me.it was stupid of me to post the fake review and I truly apologise , I'm sure the white moose cafe is a great place and I have learnt to be more safer on the internet and to not do anything like this again . Thankyou again Paul.

    WMC:

    No worries at all, *name*. Sorry for any abuse by some of the followers. Call into the cafe sometime and I'll buy you a coffee! Cows milk only though!!!


    .... Followed by many happy, supportive comments directed towards the reviewer.

    If you read my original post, you will see that I said "he deleted the original post".

    His original post was absolutely disgusting and the comments were awful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    So basically Heat_Wave is making more out of something than actually exists


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Sounds fair enough to me. She left a fake review with the potential to damage their business and she deserved to be taken to task over it. Its not his fault she was 14, but once he learned about it he removed it.


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