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Misuse of Disabled parking badges!

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    #32
    Ginger83
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Lollipop lady moved me on for obstructing.

    Do you mean you allowed her to move you?


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    #33
    boardsuser1
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Do you mean you allowed her to move you?

    Legally you’re obliged to.


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    #34
    Mrs OBumble
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    diomed wrote: »
    My experience is a taxi is called or an ambulance if necessary.

    Some people in nursing homes have relatives who care about them, and take them for outings.

    It's not prison they're in.


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    #35
    whoopsadoodles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    diomed wrote: »
    If people become residents of nursing homes their disabled parking permits should be cancelled.
    How did I come up with that idea?

    Well this is certainly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.


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    #36
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!


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    #37
    alchemist33
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!

    Yeah, you keep telling yourself that


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    #38
    AndrewJRenko
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Lollipop lady moved me on for obstructing.
    You'd certainly not want to be stopping in a place that causes danger to the lollipop lady or the kids that she is guiding, so that complicates it a bit. Find another way to shame the lady in question - take photos or video for a start.
    Grab All Association wrote: »
    Yes it’s wrong to use someones parking badge if not disabled or in their company but for the relatively small number of people doing it, it’s not financially feasible to have wardens going around verifying every driver with a blue badge on display is entitled to use it.
    No-one is suggesting that there is a new team of wardens for this specific issue. But we do have gardai and we do have traffic wardens in many urban areas. A bit of extra focus on this issue would be helpful.
    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!
    No. Most half-decent people would NOT do the same.


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    #39
    the beer revolu
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!
    Yes, everyone here is completely self centered and inconsiderate.
    We're all just like you!


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    #40
    markc1184
    Registered Users Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭markc1184


    I have one in the window of my car for my mother, I'm her carer. She has it 3 years now so it is the plastic type card. On the card it says that it needs to be renewed every 2 years but yet I've seen some in windows that look very old and others that just look like a piece of dog eared paper with a bit of laminate on them. Is this just people not bothering/knowing to renew them or people just chancing their arms?


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    #41
    boardsuser1
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    You'd certainly not want to be stopping in a place that causes danger to the lollipop lady or the kids that she is guiding, so that complicates it a bit. Find another way to shame the lady in question - take photos or video for a start.


    No-one is suggesting that there is a new team of wardens for this specific issue. But we do have gardai and we do have traffic wardens in many urban areas. A bit of extra focus on this issue would be helpful.


    No. Most half-decent people would NOT do the same.

    Sadly if i try and do that i'll be accused of discrimination, boss!


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    #42
    boardsuser1
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot


    It is people like your "good" self are the reason that people who genuinely need the spots can't access them.

    I hope #OperationEnable is coming to a street near you soon.


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    #43
    Sue Pa Key Pa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sue Pa Key Pa


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!

    You rightly run the risk of losing the badge altogether and then you will be solely responsible for the extra hardship you will inflict on your mother when she can't park near the shop or church. Then again, I doubt that worries you, once you're OK.


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    #44
    AryaStark
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!

    No they wouldn't. If you had any understanding or were a nice person at all this would not be your view. I am afraid instead of being on a high horse you are one of the lowest of the low and fortunately there are not too many horrible people like you.


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    #45
    Roanmore
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!

    That's a crock of ****. My wife has a permit over 4 years, I have never used with her not in the car in all that time. We know what it's like trying to find a space a seeing a car with no permit on it and wouldn't do it to anyone.


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    #46
    Ginger83
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Legally you’re obliged to.

    I'd be parking beside the car in question and bringing my reason for doing it to the lady's attention.

    All she can really do is call the gardai who i'd be explaining my reasons to also.


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    #47
    looksee
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    I'd be parking beside the car in question and bringing my reason for doing it to the lady's attention.

    All she can really do is call the gardai who i'd be explaining my reasons to also.

    And while you are having a shouting match with an ignorant low-life, you will be trying to calmly manage your disabled child into the school?


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    #48
    Tropheus
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    Like others here, my father-in-law has a permit and it's displayed on my car most of the time. I would never take up a disabled space if he wasn't in the car with me. If he left the permit at home and he was with me, I still wouldn't use a disabled space.

    The abuse of permits and spaces is a far bigger issue than the number in circulation (which I believe is lower here than other countries as the bar to get one is very high). I regularly challenge people parking in disabled spaces without permits. Some of the excuses I get are hilarious - "I'll only be a minute", yes, seriously! "I've applied for a permit and I'm waiting for it" - then don't park here until you get it! "I left my permit at home" - tough!!

    Does anyone know the law when it comes to disabled spaces on private property like shopping centres? I'm not sure if the Guards can enforce them and that's where the biggest abuse is. The businesses themselves don't appear interested in enforcing them. I've reported cars without permits to shopping centre security previously and just get a shrug of the shoulders.

    Some people also seem to think that once they're sitting in the car waiting for someone, that it's ok to take up a disabled space without a permit. Lazy fu*kers the lot of them.


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    #49
    Captain Obvious
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »

    It is up to the private operator to manage the spaces on private property. Speak to whoever manages the site if they aren't managing it properly.

    All they can do is clamp it, which doesn't really free up the space.


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    #50
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,418 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    All they can do is clamp it, which doesn't really free up the space.
    Short term pain for long term gain. It doesn't free it up today, but it is a big deterrent to stop that driver doing the same the next day and the next day. And the same for all the people she tells about how terribly she was treated at the supermarket. And the same for all the people who see the car stuck there with the clamp.

    I know one supermarket car park security guy who routinely clamps his own or another staff car just to create this deterrent effect.
    markc1184 wrote: »
    I have one in the window of my car for my mother, I'm her carer. She has it 3 years now so it is the plastic type card. On the card it says that it needs to be renewed every 2 years but yet I've seen some in windows that look very old and others that just look like a piece of dog eared paper with a bit of laminate on them. Is this just people not bothering/knowing to renew them or people just chancing their arms?

    Just to clarify - are you saying that you're using an expired pass?


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    #51
    boardsuser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Some cars that are being clamped nowadays is resulting in the car being outright abandoned as I mentioned here recently.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057762523/2/#post105578889


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    #52
    Roanmore
    Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Roanmore


    Tropheus wrote: »
    Like others here, my father-in-law has a permit and it's displayed on my car most of the time. I would never take up a disabled space if he wasn't in the car with me. If he left the permit at home and he was with me, I still wouldn't use a disabled space.

    The abuse of permits and spaces is a far bigger issue than the number in circulation (which I believe is lower here than other countries as the bar to get one is very high). I regularly challenge people parking in disabled spaces without permits. Some of the excuses I get are hilarious - "I'll only be a minute", yes, seriously! "I've applied for a permit and I'm waiting for it" - then don't park here until you get it! "I left my permit at home" - tough!!

    Does anyone know the law when it comes to disabled spaces on private property like shopping centres? I'm not sure if the Guards can enforce them and that's where the biggest abuse is. The businesses themselves don't appear interested in enforcing them. I've reported cars without permits to shopping centre security previously and just get a shrug of the shoulders.

    Some people also seem to think that once they're sitting in the car waiting for someone, that it's ok to take up a disabled space without a permit. Lazy fu*kers the lot of them.

    I posted in another forum, what I have seen a few times is young able bodied people with no permits leaving elderly relatives in the car whilst they go off shopping. The cars have no badge.
    Who's going to tackle an elderly person who is not the owner of the vehicle?


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    #53
    Ginger83
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    looksee wrote: »
    And while you are having a shouting match with an ignorant low-life, you will be trying to calmly manage your disabled child into the school?

    Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it resolved things.


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    #54
    freshpopcorn
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    Tropheus wrote: »
    Does anyone know the law when it comes to disabled spaces on private property like shopping centres? I'm not sure if the Guards can enforce them and that's where the biggest abuse is. The businesses themselves don't appear interested in enforcing them. I've reported cars without permits to shopping centre security previously and just get a shrug of the shoulders.

    Basically it's private property and it's up to the business.
    I noticed with local supermarkets that if there's only one or two spaces they don't really get abused but when they have loads of disabled spaces then they seem to get abused a lot more.


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    #55
    looksee
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it resolved things.

    It might not bother you, but what effect would it have on the child?


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    Knine
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    Roanmore wrote: »
    I posted in another forum, what I have seen a few times is young able bodied people with no permits leaving elderly relatives in the car whilst they go off shopping. The cars have no badge.
    Who's going to tackle an elderly person who is not the owner of the vehicle?

    Me. I have done it. No Permit. No Parking. I have no problem doing it either. Those Permits are not free either.

    I was at Tesco Clear Water yesterday. One of the worst spots for abuse. It was very unusual to see no cars parked there without permits. Maybe the fear of being caught is making them cop on. Several times I have seen the Garda check cars there.


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    #57
    TheChizler
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    There was a thread in legal discussion a couple of years back where the consensus was that the Gardaí could get involved, as even though it was private property it was still a public place that the public has access to. It was the same reasoning as why you still need tax and insurance in a private car park.


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    #58
    Knine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    My mother has given me her pass as she can't really drive anymore. I use it to bring her to the shops and mass and that.

    Of course if in have the pass I'll use it myself when I'm in a rush or can't find a spot. Everyone here on their high horse would do the same!

    I seriously hope you are joking. That is a scumbag thing to do. If I said any more I would get a ban.

    No actually I think most decent members of society who have morals would never do the same. You are exactly what this thread is about. Scumbags who do this should get a driving ban.


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    markc1184
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Short term pain for long term gain. It doesn't free it up today, but it is a big deterrent to stop that driver doing the same the next day and the next day. And the same for all the people she tells about how terribly she was treated at the supermarket. And the same for all the people who see the car stuck there with the clamp.

    I know one supermarket car park security guy who routinely clamps his own or another staff car just to create this deterrent effect.



    Just to clarify - are you saying that you're using an expired pass?

    No hers is not expired, but it clearly states an expiry date on the card but yet I have seen people using cards which look very old and tattered.


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    #60
    Knine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    markc1184 wrote: »
    No hers is not expired, but it clearly states an expiry date on the card but yet I have seen people using cards which look very old and tattered.

    The older cards were laminated pieces of card so that is probably what you saw & they are out of date for several years now


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    #61
    Minderbinder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    I once saw a letter to the editor of a free Dublin paper that read ‘Anyone parking in a disabled parking space is an inconsiderate buffoon and should be put in front of a judge’.

    In their furious rage they forgot to add that it was those without disabled badges who they were referring to. At least I hope so. :)


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