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    #122
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Okay, I'm able to crimp proper terminals onto the cable, so in terms of cameras and receiver boxes what are popular?

    I want sound as well as vision. Are PTZ cameras worth it? I could cover pretty much all the shed with one but would a couple of fixed cameras come in cheaper?


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    #123
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Okay, I'm able to crimp proper terminals onto the cable, so in terms of cameras and receiver boxes what are popular?

    I want sound as well as vision. Are PTZ cameras worth it? I could cover pretty much all the shed with one but would a couple of fixed cameras come in cheaper?

    Hikvision are popular. But I use these cheap HD cameras.

    https://m.ebay.ie/itm/FLOUREON-CCTV-8CH-1080N-DVR-Recorder-1500TVL-Cameras-Outdoor-Security-System-Kit/223664036178?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item34136a5952:g:0d4AAOSwDhxd1kRM

    I've 8 of them setup in sheds plus 4 around the yard for security.

    A good quality PTZ camera is very flexible and may well have better night vision than my cheap cameras. But I use a sonoff 4ch networked smart switch to turn on shed lights if I need a better view.


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    #124
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    Hikvision are popular. But I use these cheap HD cameras.

    https://m.ebay.ie/itm/FLOUREON-CCTV-8CH-1080N-DVR-Recorder-1500TVL-Cameras-Outdoor-Security-System-Kit/223664036178?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item34136a5952:g:0d4AAOSwDhxd1kRM
    But I use a sonoff 4ch networked smart switch to turn on shed lights if I need a better view.

    You've got my interest now. I never considered this. I like the sound of this.

    How much of your setup is wireless?


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    #125
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    It's hard to beat a good ptz setup in a slatted shed, zoom in and read a tag in the dark, it's practically a DIY setup job if you are anyway technically adept.
    On calving pens it's a no brainer, what price is your peace of mind.


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    #126
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    You've got my interest now. I never considered this. I like the sound of this.

    How much of your setup is wireless?

    Cameras all completely wired. I've network wired from house into garage and workshop then a wireless connection from workshop to cattle shed and all wired from there.


    This is the sonoff relay it controls 3 lighting circuits and my electric fence unit. I also have similar controlling roller doors.

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/333443674476


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    #127
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    keepalive213 wrote: »
    It's hard to beat a good ptz setup in a slatted shed, zoom in and read a tag in the dark, it's practically a DIY setup job if you are anyway technically adept.
    On calving pens it's a no brainer, what price is your peace of mind.

    I won't knock a PTZ, but I've every angle covered in open cow shed and 3 calving pens with fixed cameras. Not sure I need ability to read a tag in the dark, a cow either needs assistance or she doesn't won't matter her number. I got 8 cameras for under €150, night vision is fairly good as long as cow is not a red limousine on fresh straw (then she's invisible which is weird) but remote control of lights sorted that issue. I've only one red cow.


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    #128
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,828 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    emaherx wrote: »
    I won't knock a PTZ, but I've every angle covered in open cow shed and 3 calving pens with fixed cameras. Not sure I need ability to read a tag in the dark, a cow either needs assistance or she doesn't won't matter her number. I got 8 cameras for under €150, night vision is fairly good as long as cow is not a red limousine on fresh straw (then she's invisible which is weird) but remote control of lights sorted that issue. I've only one red cow.

    Would you not just leave lights on in a shed?


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    #129
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Would you not just leave lights on in a shed?

    Why? The cows don't need them, I know LED lights don't use as much electricity but I don't believe in wasting energy either.


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    #130
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,828 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    emaherx wrote: »
    Why? The cows don't need them, I know LED lights don't use as much electricity but I don't believe in wasting energy either.

    Ours left on all night in calving shed and cubicles


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    #131
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Ours left on all night in calving shed and cubicles

    That's ok, that's your farm, mine are on while needed. Maybe that's an area you could look at if you decide to try and cut your carbon footprint ;):D


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    #132
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I leave lights on but they’re led battens and you wouldn’t really need them with my ptz camera in a 6 span lean to. Great camera.
    Got second one last year for a 6 span slatted shed which is beside the lean to.
    Didn’t know myself last year with them and hopefully get it up and goin on phone for this calving season. It’s the 5km wireless camera. You need line of sight though.

    Equicom in cork I bought it. Vat back.


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    #133
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,828 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    emaherx wrote: »
    That's ok, that's your farm, mine are on while needed. Maybe that's an area you could look at if you decide to try and cut your carbon footprint ;):D

    LEDs;)
    I'd be afraid cows would get stuck in a cubicle or walk on another cow without them.
    Probably wrong on that though


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    #134
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    LEDs;)
    I'd be afraid cows would get stuck in a cubicle or walk on another cow without them.
    Probably wrong on that though

    I mentioned LED's before you :p they still use energy and depending how many you have on it could still be a fair bit. I do leave a few here in the yard on with dusk till Dawn switches for safety/security reasons but it's not the same level of light or power consumption as when the lights are "on"


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    #135
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    emaherx wrote: »
    I won't knock a PTZ, but I've every angle covered in open cow shed and 3 calving pens with fixed cameras. Not sure I need ability to read a tag in the dark, a cow either needs assistance or she doesn't won't matter her number. I got 8 cameras for under €150, night vision is fairly good as long as cow is not a red limousine on fresh straw (then she's invisible which is weird) but remote control of lights sorted that issue. I've only one red cow.

    A great deal in fairness.
    Any ip weather rating on those cameras I didn't see any.
    Dust can be an issue, the obvious dampness in sheds, steam off cattle, the dreaded spider webs


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    #136
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx are you able to provide some details of how you integrate the lights in order to control them from anywhere?
    Have you setup a wireless network in your shed to control them?


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    #137
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    emaherx are you able to provide some details of how you integrate the lights in order to control them from anywhere?
    Have you setup a wireless network in your shed to control them?

    Oh yes, I'd forgotten they were wifi. The router used as a wireless bridge also provides a WiFi hotspot. They have their own app ewelink it's called I don't personally use that but it works well but uses some Chinese server for authentication and remote access similar to P2P on the cameras. I use custom firmware called "tasmoto" I think and a local server running home assistant on a raspberry pi and then port forward on my router to give remote access.


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    #138
    Mortelaro
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    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PTZlink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Detection-Injector/dp/B07XJRQ9L8

    Considering one of those ptz cameras
    Seems to be all singing and dancing but too new for any reviews

    It comes with a poe injector which is handy,meaning just one cable run from the router

    Comments ?


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    #139
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    keepalive213 wrote: »
    A great deal in fairness.
    Any ip weather rating on those cameras I didn't see any.
    Dust can be an issue, the obvious dampness in sheds, steam off cattle, the dreaded spider webs

    They are outdoor cameras, don't know the ip rating off the top of my head, but are up 3 years with no issues.


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    #140
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PTZlink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Detection-Injector/dp/B07XJRQ9L8

    Considering one of those ptz cameras
    Seems to be all singing and dancing but too new for any reviews

    It comes with a poe injector which is handy,meaning just one cable run from the router

    Comments ?

    The rotation speed seems to be 0.02deg/s. That seems slow, but I've not checked the speed of others yet.
    Might be more frustrating waiting on it to pan rather than switching to another camera.

    Edit : that is the fine adjustment. They can do up to 60deg/s max rotation speed.


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    #141
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    They are outdoor cameras, don't know the ip rating off the top of my head, but are up 3 years with no issues.

    Item description states they are IP66.


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    #142
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Item description states they are IP66.

    Serious value for money


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    #143
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Are the cameras mostly wired to avoid jammers or does it just make for a cheaper and more robust setup?


    emaherx, how have you housed your sonoff switch in the shed to make it waterproof but still be able to pick up the WiFi signal.
    Can they still pick it up through an IP66 weatherproof box?


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    #144
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Are the cameras mostly wired to avoid jammers or does it just make for a cheaper and more robust setup?


    emaherx, how have you housed your sonoff switch in the shed to make it waterproof but still be able to pick up the WiFi signal.
    Can they still pick it up through an IP66 weatherproof box?

    I usually hardwire everything where possible it's far more reliable and cheaper. The sonoff relay fits a standard din rail inside an ip rated consumer unit and is about 3 foot from router which is in an ip rated box so no signal issue.


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    #145
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭emaherx


    keepalive213 wrote: »
    Serious value for money

    To be fair though they look and feel like cheap rubbish but they seem to work fine. Not sure how they will stand the test of time but they are so cheap.


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    #146
    downwiththatsor
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    Can anyone recommend a good free or paid iPhone app for a foscam that allows the image to be zoomed as well as the camera to tilt and rotate etc.
    Also the apps must allow full screen autorotate on the iPhone.
    Thanks in advance


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    #147
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭tanko


    downwiththatsor wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a good free or paid iPhone app for a foscam that allows the image to be zoomed as well as the camera to tilt and rotate etc.
    Also the apps must allow full screen autorotate on the iPhone.
    Thanks in advance

    Does the Hubble camera app do all that?


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    #148
    downwiththatsor
    Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    tanko wrote: »
    Does the Hubble camera app do all that?
    Will check it out thanks.


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    #149
    dohc turbo2
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    downwiththatsor wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a good free or paid iPhone app for a foscam that allows the image to be zoomed as well as the camera to tilt and rotate etc.
    Also the apps must allow full screen autorotate on the iPhone.
    Thanks in advance

    Ipcamvewer is perfect , the free version is fine , I have it myself ,


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    #150
    downwiththatsor
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    dohc turbo2 wrote: »
    Ipcamvewer is perfect , the free version is fine , I have it myself ,

    Have ipcamviewer thanks but wont rotate or offer tilt, zoom rotate options on the iPhone whereas the android version of the app on a tablet does it all.
    You have it on iPhone?


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    #151
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    downwiththatsor wrote: »
    Have ipcamviewer thanks but wont rotate or offer tilt, zoom rotate options on the iPhone whereas the android version of the app on a tablet does it all.
    You have it on iPhone?

    Ya I have on iPhone , my brother in law who runs the dns part of it for me uses it trough a samsung


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