Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

troyzer

bilston wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Four is a bit much don't you think?

Leinster have four and they lose two to Ireland camp. Four seems excessive for Ulster, at most they'll lose Moore. And even that doesn't look likely.

Not really Troyzer. I'd definitely want 3 THs and a 4th prop who can play TH. Two injured THs and you are one injury away from serious problems.

Yeah but three injured THs and suddenly four isn't enough?

Maybe Leinster should get a fifth? Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you there.

bilston

troyzer wrote: »

Yeah but three injured THs and suddenly four isn't enough?

Maybe Leinster should get a fifth? Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you there.

How will I possibly sleep tonight!

troyzer

bilston wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Yeah but three injured THs and suddenly four isn't enough?

Maybe Leinster should get a fifth? Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you there.

How will I possibly sleep tonight!

Well. That's me ruined.

I'll just show myself out....

launish116

4 is on the money, with rotation, injuries and different levels of experience. Just look at loosehead injuries.

As for a loosehead.
O'Toole possibly? Mobile and can carry. Would seem a waste to mess him about. They obviously considered him a tighthead, scrummaging might be easier on the loose though for him. He is still very young.

Squidgy Black

In a specialised position like LH or TH you can't really run on the bare minimum. And Ulster don't have a TH in the academy either.

Leinster have 4, but also have academy cover too in Aungier.

bilston

So a big game coming up this week against the Ospreys.

Obviously Best and Stockdale will be out, but I'd be hopeful that our other Irish squad members should be released.

The question is whether any injured players will be back. Marshall can't be far from a return. What's the craic with Coetzee and Reidy?

Possible team...??

1 O'Sullivan
2 Herring
3 Moore
4 O'Connor
5 Treadwell
6 Reidy
7 Murphy
8 Coetzee
9 Cooney
10 Burns
11 Lyttle
12 McCloskey
13 Addison
14 Balacoune
15 Ludik

Not bad for mid 6Ns if it comes off.

awec

Advantage of supplying only 3 Ireland starters is you get to field relatively strong teams during the six nations fixtures.

blackdog1

bilston wrote:

1 O'Sullivan 2 Herring 3 Moore 4 O'Connor 5 Treadwell 6 Reidy 7 Murphy 8 Coetzee 9 Cooney 10 Burns 11 Lyttle 12 McCloskey 13 Addison 14 Balacoune 15 Ludik

Thought Henderson is back this week too?.

troyzer

blackdog1 wrote: »

Thought Henderson is back this week too?.

I thought France was the earliest he'd be back?

launish116

Marshall back on the pitch training by the photos ln twitter.

Dubinusa

Great news. Marshall will take some of the pressure off the centers. Hopefully Gilroy is back.
Ulster should beat Ospreys. Ospreys have a lot of players in the international set up and are weakened.

awec

Hendo starts.

Lowry at 10.

bilston

Kernohan starts over Lyttle? Why? Kernohan has done fine , but Lyttle is a class above. Also not sure why McBurney isn't on the bench ahead of Andrew, to be honest I'd probably start McBurney ahead of Herring!

Anyway that is the negative gripes out of the way. Other than that good to see Hendy back, and good to see McCloskey and Cave linking up in midfield. And also Lowry at 10 is very exciting. It could be a watershed moment.

Paul Smeenus

Disappointed Rea isn't ahead of Clive Ross. Has he completely stalled?

jacothelad

Ulster team: (15-9): P Nelson; A Kernohan, D Cave, S McCloskey, L Ludik; M Lowry, J Cooney; (1-8): E O'Sullivan, R Herring, M Moore, A O'Connor (captain), I Henderson, C Ross, J Murphy, N Timoney;
Replacements (16-23): J Andrew, A Warwick, T O'Toole, K Treadwell, S Reidy, D Shanahan, J Hume, R Lyttle.

launish116

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster team: (15-9): P Nelson; A Kernohan, D Cave, S McCloskey, L Ludik; M Lowry, J Cooney; (1-8): E O'Sullivan, R Herring, M Moore, A O'Connor (captain), I Henderson, C Ross, J Murphy, N Timoney;
Replacements (16-23): J Andrew, A Warwick, T O'Toole, K Treadwell, S Reidy, D Shanahan, J Hume, R Lyttle.

Hoping Henderson hasn't been rushed back. Pic's show his hand heavily strapped.

Not a fan of Nelson at fullback, hopefully Lyttle can continue from the last match with the attacking form.

jacothelad

launish116 wrote: »

Hoping Henderson hasn't been rushed back. Pic's show his hand heavily strapped.

Not a fan of Nelson at fullback, hopefully Lyttle can continue from the last match with the attacking form.

Nelson has never fulfilled his early promise. He isn't a player who fulfills the criteria for the level of player that any of our provinces really need. I'd ratyer see the multi-talented Lyttle there for example. I suspect he would make a really fine scrum half too.

bilston

jacothelad wrote: »

Nelson has never fulfilled his early promise. He isn't a player who fulfills the criteria for the level of player that any of our provinces really need. I'd ratyer see the multi-talented Lyttle there for example. I suspect he would make a really fine scrum half too.

Funny I had the exact same thought about Lyttle during the Benetton game a couple of weeks ago. There was talk on here a while back that Lyttle may be released because of his injury record. That to me would be a massive waste of talent.

stl.ire

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster team: (15-9): P Nelson; A Kernohan, D Cave, S McCloskey, L Ludik; M Lowry, J Cooney; (1-8): E O'Sullivan, R Herring, M Moore, A O'Connor (captain), I Henderson, C Ross, J Murphy, N Timoney;
Replacements (16-23): J Andrew, A Warwick, T O'Toole, K Treadwell, S Reidy, D Shanahan, J Hume, R Lyttle.

Ospreys
15 Dan Evans
14 Hanno Dirksen
13 Cory Allen
12 Tiaan Thomas-Wheeler
11 Luke Morgan
10 Sam Davies (Capt)
9 Tom Habberfield
1 Jordan Lay
2 Scott Baldwin
3 Tom Botha
4 Lloyd Ashley
5 Bradley Davies
6 Olly Cracknell
7 Sam Cross
8 James King
Replacements
16 Scott Otten 17 Rowan Jenkins 18 Ma’afu Fia 19 Will Griffiths 20 Rob McCusker 21 Matthew Aubrey 22 Luke Price 23 Keelan Giles

Ospreys have a decent selection. Ulster could struggle if they don’t have a big performance by their back row.
Who is the back up 10? Cooney or Nelson?

stl.ire

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster team: (15-9): P Nelson; A Kernohan, D Cave, S McCloskey, L Ludik; M Lowry, J Cooney; (1-8): E O'Sullivan, R Herring, M Moore, A O'Connor (captain), I Henderson, C Ross, J Murphy, N Timoney;
Replacements (16-23): J Andrew, A Warwick, T O'Toole, K Treadwell, S Reidy, D Shanahan, J Hume, R Lyttle.

Ospreys
15 Dan Evans
14 Hanno Dirksen
13 Cory Allen
12 Tiaan Thomas-Wheeler
11 Luke Morgan
10 Sam Davies (Capt)
9 Tom Habberfield
1 Jordan Lay
2 Scott Baldwin
3 Tom Botha
4 Lloyd Ashley
5 Bradley Davies
6 Olly Cracknell
7 Sam Cross
8 James King
Replacements
16 Scott Otten 17 Rowan Jenkins 18 Ma’afu Fia 19 Will Griffiths 20 Rob McCusker 21 Matthew Aubrey 22 Luke Price 23 Keelan Giles

Ospreys have a decent selection. Ulster could struggle if they don’t have a big performance by their back row.
Who is the back up 10? Cooney or Nelson?

awec

Brett Herron has signed for Harlequins.

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bilston

awec wrote: »

Brett Herron has signed for Harlequins.

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Belfast?....

Fair play to him and particularly his agent.

jacothelad

bilston wrote: »

Belfast?....

Fair play to him and particularly his agent.

I must say I thought he got a bit of a raw deal from Ulster and a lot of daft and unfair criticism from fans. He had some very good attributes, he was a young guy from lower level rugby playing away from home and he didn't get any lee way at all.

awec

jacothelad wrote: »

I must say I thought he got a bit of a raw deal from Ulster and a lot of daft and unfair criticism from fans. He had some very good attributes, he was a young guy from lower level rugby playing away from home and he didn't get any lee way at all.

jaco... he was crap.

Lucas44

Callum reid and graham Curtis trained with Irish 20s in the aviva today

Paul Smeenus

Lucas44 wrote: »

Callum reid and graham Curtis trained with Irish 20s in the aviva today

Great stuff - both play in positions we need to strengthen.

bilston

Good to hear about Reid. Hopefully he is committing himself to rugby. He certainly has huge potential.

bilston

Good jackalling from Hendy to win a penalty.

Lowry plays nice and flat. Quite a contrast to a young Paddy Jackson.

Edit - Nelson and Ludik have started well.

bilston

Henderson possibly lucky there that he wasn't given a Yellow.

Former Former

That is an incredible mistake