Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

Akrasia

Very damning court report from the BBC. There seem to be plenty of witnesses though. If the accounts from today are true, you'd have to feel very strongly for that poor woman.

Zzippy

Folks there are previous warnings on thread - this trial will not be discussed here until it is completed. You can discuss it all you like anywhere else. Any more posts about it will be infracted

Zzippy

Zzippy wrote: »

Folks there are previous warnings on thread - this trial will not be discussed here until it is completed. You can discuss it all you like anywhere else. Any more posts about it will be infracted

No problem with this at all - just to clarify once a verdict is reached it can be discussed?

Stheno

Hadassah CoolS Backside wrote: »

No problem with this at all - just to clarify once a verdict is reached it can be discussed?

Usual board rules are not until sentencing is complete if applicable

$ausage$

I am sure we can say safely we defo need a new 10. 
Any contracts up at the end of the season? I wils there was a rugby version of football manager 99/00 so I could pull up a name like Billy Sharpe that is hiding in the lower leagues.

whatawaster

I think Ulster should definitely look at Cathal Marsh. He is a decent player.

You will need 3 10's. Marsh, McPhillips + 1 other looks like a good mix to me, to cover injuries, rotation etc.

Such a pity Madigan isn't still in the Irish system, he'd be the perfect signing really.

$ausage$

whatawaster wrote: »

I think Ulster should definitely look at Cathal Marsh. He is a decent player.

You will need 3 10's. Marsh, McPhillips + 1 other looks like a good mix to me, to cover injuries, rotation etc.

Such a pity Madigan isn't still in the Irish system, he'd be the perfect signing really.

I had to google him, just got alot of pictures of Bosco really.

Is he really a starting 10?

$ausage$

A bit left field here but what about Ian McKinley?

Would he not want to come back to Ireland?

irishfan9

$ausage$ wrote: »

A bit left field here but what about Ian McKinley?

Would he not want to come back to Ireland?

about to be capped by italy and probably not.

Stheno

Has already been capped by Italy

Rattlehead_ie

If the IRFU could swing they should have J.Carbery with Ulster.
That would mean come RWC you have 3 choice 10s playing 1st choice rugby for their province. Sexton in Leinster, Carbery in Ulster and bleyendaal/Keatly in Munster. With one of those 3 being able to play a utility role if sh1t hits the fan during the game.

CIARAN_BOYLE

$ausage$ wrote: »

I had to google him, just got alot of pictures of Bosco really.

Is he really a starting 10?

No he is not. Solid backup but not top level.

bilston

Use the Piutau money and the money we save on any other contracts and go after Handre Pollard.

The problem is our outside backs could be decimated next season. Bowe and Piutau are going. There must be questions over Trimble and Payne and is Cave Out of contract as well?

That leaves McCloskey, Ludik, Gilroy, Stockdale, Marshall and Lyttle. I'm looking at that thinking I must have left someone out, but I don't think I have. How could this happen? Two or three yeaes ago we had backs growing on the trees in Tollymore Forest! Next season we potentially have no out half and six outside backs!!!!

c.p.w.g.w

Rattlehead_ie wrote: »

If the IRFU could swing they should have J.Carbery with Ulster.
That would mean come RWC you have 3 choice 10s playing 1st choice rugby for their province. Sexton in Leinster, Carbery in Ulster and bleyendaal/Keatly in Munster. With one of those 3 being able to play a utility role if sh1t hits the fan during the game.

Byrne at Leinster is better than Keats, from what I've seen this season.

Bridge93

And Sam Arnold and Chris Farrell are both in and around Irish extended squads

c.p.w.g.w

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Byrne at Leinster is better than Keats, from what I've seen this season.

He's also the guts of 10 years younger. He'd be a fantastic signing for Ulster but not sure it makes sense for him or Leinster.

irishfan9

JJ Hanrahan.

Buer

irishfan9 wrote: »

JJ Hanrahan.

TB looks potentially done at Munster and Ulster need much better.

c.p.w.g.w

Hadassah CoolS Backside wrote: »

He's also the guts of 10 years younger. He'd be a fantastic signing for Ulster but not sure it makes sense for him or Leinster.

But his behind carbery & sexton. If he went to Munster or Ulster* he'd be first choice would he not? Bylandaal is injured again with no sign of him being fit to play in the near future. Keats is just too inconsistent.


*Pending on Jackson situation

irishfan9

Buer wrote: »

TB looks potentially done at Munster and Ulster need much better.

better option than anything they have and a sustained run at 10 might do him some good.

irishfan9

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

But his behind carbery & sexton. If he went to Munster or Ulster* he'd be first choice would he not? Bylandaal is injured again with no sign of him being fit to play in the near future. Keats is just too inconsistent.


*Pending on Jackson situation

he is not behind Carbery for Leinster.

c.p.w.g.w

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

But his behind carbery & sexton.

He's behind Sexton. We don't really know his standing vs Carbery.

If he went to Munster or Ulster* he'd be first choice would he not? Bylandaal is injured again with no sign of him being fit to play in the near future. Keats is just too inconsistent.


*Pending on Jackson situation

He could be now, or he could continue to get bucketloads of gametime at Leinster playing in one of the best teams in Europe with an eye to being first choice in maybe 2 seasons.

irishbucsfan

Cathal Marsh should go up. He’s good enough to start in Pro Rugby at least. Obviously a European caliber 10 also needs to be found.

baas baa

I dont think you can completely discount the idea of Carbery/Byrne having to move. I'd figured that Carbery would take over from Kearney at 15 and that would allow Leinster give both plenty of gametime, but Larmour now looks the most likely for that job. Their both talented players who'll have international ambitions and see themselves as outhalves, relying on injuries/rotation for gametime may not keep them both happy. I think it'll be another year before any this becomes an issue and a lot will depend on the fitness of other players.

awec

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Cathal Marsh should go up. He’s good enough to start in Pro Rugby at least. Obviously a European caliber 10 also needs to be found.

Better for Ulster to take a punt on McPhillips and fast-track Lowry than sign yet another Leinster player who isn't really that good.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

Better for Ulster to take a punt on McPhillips and fast-track Lowry than sign yet another Leinster player who isn't really that good.

Unless Marsh is better than both of them, which I think he is.

awec

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Unless Marsh is better than both of them, which I think he is.

Based on what?

If we're bringing someone in they may as well be a lot better. No point signing someone who is marginally better at best.

This is like suggesting the solution to Leinster's problem at hooker is they should sign John Andrew.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

Based on what?

Based on watching both McPhillips and Marsh play, quite a bit at this stage now, and based on the assumption that Lowry is probably not as good as either right now

Interestingly this was brought up on the THY podcast recently and Mike McCarthy spoke about how he thinks Marsh is a fantastic player and that him moving up to Ulster seemed obvious to him, and jokes followed about sharing a lift with Jordi Murphy.

irishbucsfan

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Based on watching both McPhillips and Marsh play, quite a bit at this stage now, and based on the assumption that Lowry is probably not as good as either right now

Interestingly this was brought up on the THY podcast recently and Mike McCarthy spoke about how he thinks Marsh is a fantastic player and that him moving up to Ulster seemed obvious to him, and jokes followed about sharing a lift with Jordi Murphy.

Heaslip and Luke Fitz on the indo podcast said the same. I think he's a good player but as has been said before, he may be just too small and Leinster aren't investing in him for whatever reason.

awec wrote: »

This is like suggesting the solution to Leinster's problem at hooker is they should sign John Andrew.

I can't help but think we missed a trick not signing Duncan Casey tbh.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

This is like suggesting the solution to Leinster's problem at hooker is they should sign John Andrew.

If Leinster were as barren at hooker as Ulster are at 10, it would be. For example if our 3 international hookers all left and we were left with Byrne and Kelleher. In that case signing Andrew might actually be worth it, alongside an NIQ.