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Swedish Finance minister to asylum seekers: Don't come to Sweden

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    #62
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,482 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    Yeah you're dead right. I arrived in Sweden last night for Christmas and the place is an apocalyptic nightmare. Bands of moozelims roaming the streets looking for children to eat. The in-laws dragged out of their house and the place burned down. It's horrific over here send help PLEASE!

    Everything wrong with the lefty apologists postersright there in this post! You have Swedish ministers even saying that they took too many Immigrants in, plenty of no go zones for police, women getting gang raped by up to 20 men and the 5 caught get off because the girl had been given some drugs
    Quite telling about anti-semantic incidents in Sweden
    51% carries out by Islamic extremists
    25% by the far left
    5% by the far right!

    People starting to wake up and protest about it
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-22/swedish-gang-rapes-hundreds-protest-after-third-attack-weeks-leaves-17-year-old-hosp


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    #63
    MSVforever
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    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

    They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

    But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

    The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

    So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

    Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.

    You got it in one. Spot on.
    The issue is that the left and right are usually total headcases who life in some kind of utopia.

    On another note I'm a German married to an Irish woman and we have a kid who is half / half.
    The right wing don't want us in either country as we are race mixing.... lol... the lefties don't like us as we don't like to abide to religious minority sh#t I. e. want to life free and speak our minds instead of pussyfooting around.

    I say f@ck them all and life your live.


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    #64
    markodaly
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    Could you give me a few examples of this in relation to ireland?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/save-crib-petition-at-beaumont-hospital-gathers-1-000-signatures-1.3335652


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    #65
    MSVforever
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    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Who says it's working in Germany? It's notoriously underreported in the German media when crimes are comitted by refugees and the sentiment for parties with anti-refugee policies is growing.

    Because nothing can be discussed in Germany without the "Nazikeule". The German right wing party NPD is a bunch of Hitler nutters and no normal person would vote for them.

    Every time people critisise Merkels politics they are labeled as NPD Neonazis. Nobody wants to be associated with them obviously so it shuts them up.
    Great tactic from those muppets in charge so there is no real opposition to deal with for now.


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    #66
    MSVforever
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    pitifulgod wrote: »
    My life has literally faced no impact from Muslims in Ireland. Worked and lived with plenty over the years. Lived next to a Muslim community center. Still not affected.

    Because Muslims in Ireland are usually educated and/or wealthy.
    There is not one African / Arabic / Turkish ghetto in Ireland.

    Well there are a good few living in the "poor" ghetto of Clonskeagh... lol....


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    #67
    893bet
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    markodaly wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/save-crib-petition-at-beaumont-hospital-gathers-1-000-signatures-1.3335652

    Taking religion out of hospitals/education system etc is no bad thing.

    Churches will be empty enough tomorrow...


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    #68
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    markodaly wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/save-crib-petition-at-beaumont-hospital-gathers-1-000-signatures-1.3335652

    If you could point out where muslims are mentioned, quoted or otherwise included in that article......


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    #69
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Chances are you've probably already had 'halal meat' in one of the many national/international food chain stores or takeaway joints whether you like it or not..

    The horror.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Across the water Lancashire council is currently embedded in a legal challenge regarding distribution to 27 schools under it's control. Around 200 Subway shops across the UK no longer offer to serve ham/pork. .

    They don't serve it, because theres no demand for it in their location.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Just up the road in a major food plant in Dungannon they process Halal lamb, sheep and mutton using this slightly old fashioned (non-stunned) way.

    But if the animals aren't stunned, they're operating illegally. Why haven't you reported them.


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    #70
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    The horror.

    ...for the animals
    Odhinn wrote: »
    They don't serve it, because theres no demand for it in their location.

    But what about anyone visiting or passing through looking for their favourite sub available in 99% of Subway's many thousands of stores, effectively it's a denial of service.
    Odhinn wrote: »
    But if the animals aren't stunned, they're operating illegally. Why haven't you reported them.

    Certain ye olde time religions have 'full legal exemption' from such sensible humane laws regarding the prevention of animal cruelty during slaughter. So sure you could report them but it would quickly be dismissed.


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    #71
    end of the road
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    markodaly wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/save-crib-petition-at-beaumont-hospital-gathers-1-000-signatures-1.3335652

    that's not an example of bending to muslims. hospitals and schools should be completely secular anyway, so the hospital removed the crib in the aim of being secular.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    But what about anyone visiting or passing through looking for their favourite sub available in 99% of Subway's many thousands of stores, effectively it's a denial of service.

    there are other food chains availible. if there is no demand for pork in an area then subway aren't going to sell it on the off chance 1 person passing through might want it.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Certain ye olde time religions have 'full legal exemption' from such sensible humane laws regarding the prevention of animal cruelty during slaughter.

    no they don't. animals must be stunned before being killed.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    So sure you could report them but it would quickly be dismissed.

    maybe you could give it a try. if you don't report then there is definitely no chance that action would be taken.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #72
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    end of the road wrote: »
    --no they don't.

    animals must be stunned before being killed.
    .

    --yes they do.

    The processing plant mentioned, operates that way because there is an exemption for Jewish and Muslim methods of slaughter under the 'Slaughter of Animals Act 1933'.


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    #73
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Verpiss dich wrote: »
    Edit are you not doing anything fun for Christmas?

    Believe it or not, this seems to be as fun as it ever gets for him.


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    #74
    falinn merking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    end of the road wrote: »
    that's not an example of bending to muslims. hospitals and schools should be completely secular anyway, so the hospital removed the crib in the aim of being secular.



    there are other food chains availible. if there is no demand for pork in an area then subway aren't going to sell it on the off chance 1 person passing through might want it.


    Are you telling me that is why I can't get a Lobster Thermidor sub?
    The horror.:D
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    #75
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    ...for the animals

    ....who are stunned beforehand, thus making it no different from ordinary slaughter.

    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    But what about anyone visiting or passing through looking for their favourite sub available in 99% of Subway's many thousands of stores, effectively it's a denial of service.

    Outside of scotland, they probably don't sell iron bru. Same difference.

    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Certain ye olde time religions have 'full legal exemption' from such sensible humane laws regarding the prevention of animal cruelty during slaughter. So sure you could report them but it would quickly be dismissed.

    The vast majority of animals slaughered here, including those for the halal market, are stunned beforehand.


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    #76
    quintana76
    Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

    They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

    But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

    The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

    So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

    Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.
    me

    I say settle them all in Foxrock. Count the hours before the media changes it's tune on immigration. Virtue signalling nimbys all. Do as I say not as I do is their mantra. Check the the Aras in the Phoenix Park for the ultimate example.


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    #77
    markodaly
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    Odhinn wrote: »

    The vast majority of animals slaughered here, including those for the halal market, are stunned beforehand.

    These are not halal so.


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    #78
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    markodaly wrote: »
    These are not halal so.

    It's adjudged perfectly acceptable for most muslims, so you'll pardon me if I don't take your word for it.

    Have you managed to discover that this has to do with muslims yet?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105641978&postcount=64


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    #79
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    quintana76 wrote: »
    me

    I say settle them all in Foxrock. Count the hours before the media changes it's tune on immigration. Virtue signalling nimbys all. Do as I say not as I do is their mantra. Check the the Aras in the Phoenix Park for the ultimate example.

    Mickey Dee is a muslim?


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    #80
    quintana76
    Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Mickey Dee is a muslim?
    Learn to read.


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    #81
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    quintana76 wrote: »
    Learn to read.

    He's an extremist muslim? Explains where he gets the energy from I suppose.


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    #82
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    The people complaining about the “virtue signalling lefties” getting theses type of threads locked should consider their own part in giving them the ammunition...


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    #83
    SnakePlissken
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Chances are you've probably already had 'halal meat' in one of the many national/international food chain stores or takeaway joints whether you like it or not..

    The horror.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Across the water Lancashire council is currently embedded in a legal challenge regarding distribution to 27 schools under it's control. Around 200 Subway shops across the UK no longer offer to serve ham/pork. .

    They don't serve it, because theres no demand for it in their location.
    Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »
    Just up the road in a major food plant in Dungannon they process Halal lamb, sheep and mutton using this slightly old fashioned (non-stunned) way.

    But if the animals aren't stunned, they're operating illegally. Why haven't you reported them.

    Ah but you've now just confirmed that which you're trying so badly to deny.

    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/halal-non-stunning-of-cattle-pre-slaughter-is-a-contentious-issue-says-vet/

    Here you go, slaughtering livestock without first stunning them is indeed inhumane, but the EU permit exactly this when the slaughterhouse is preparing Halal meat, this exemption is applicable in Ireland. So, there you are now, undeniable proof that we as a nation are kowtowing to a small minority by allowing them to so brutally slaughter livestock.


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    #84
    Odhinn
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Ah but you've now just confirmed that which you're trying so badly to deny.

    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/halal-non-stunning-of-cattle-pre-slaughter-is-a-contentious-issue-says-vet/

    Here you go, slaughtering livestock without first stunning them is indeed inhumane, but the EU permit exactly this when the slaughterhouse is preparing Halal meat, this exemption is applicable in Ireland. So, there you are now, undeniable proof that we as a nation are kowtowing to a small minority by allowing them to so brutally slaughter livestock.

    Yeah, its really a big thing
    "Something like 3-3.5% of cattle killed in Ireland are killed in this way"

    ...the exemptions been there since 1935, so please try again.


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    #85
    SnakePlissken
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    ....who are stunned beforehand, thus making it no different from ordinary slaughter.


    The vast majority of animals slaughered here, including those for the halal market, are stunned beforehand.

    What are you talking about? The animal has to be conscious when it has its throat slashed for the meat to be considered as Halal. I'm not sure if your ignorance to what Halal means is the result of your desire to be contrary, but when you come out with ridiculous statements such as the above it's rather embarrassing.

    http://halalcertification.ie/halal/islamic-method-of-slaughtering/


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    #86
    Snake Plisken
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    I won’t eat in Subway because of their pro-Halal policy, Animals aren’t stunned boycott Halal
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gYq2DQG1zI


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    #87
    suicide_circus
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    With halal the animal is alive when they kill it


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    #88
    ebbsy
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    Fair play to the Swedish, these people can't be vetted and are a drain on the resources.

    Better to call a spade a spade.

    I will continue to eat in Subway because it's tasty.


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    #89
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    What are you talking about? The animal has to be conscious when it has its throat slashed for the meat to be considered as Halal.

    Thank you imam plisken.
    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    I'm not sure if your ignorance to what Halal means is the result of your desire to be contrary, but when you come out with ridiculous statements such as the above it's rather embarrassing.

    http://halalcertification.ie/halal/islamic-method-of-slaughtering/

    Most muslims don't have a problem with the animal being stunned, as I said
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/08/what-does-halal-method-animal-slaughter-involve


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    #90
    SnakePlissken
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    With halal the animal is alive when they kill it

    Well to be fair that goes without saying for all types of slaughter, did you mean to say conscious?


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    #91
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Odhinn wrote: »
    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    What are you talking about? The animal has to be conscious when it has its throat slashed for the meat to be considered as Halal.

    Thank you imam plisken.
    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    I'm not sure if your ignorance to what Halal means is the result of your desire to be contrary, but when you come out with ridiculous statements such as the above it's rather embarrassing.

    http://halalcertification.ie/halal/islamic-method-of-slaughtering/

    Most muslims don't have a problem with the animal being stunned, as I said
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/08/what-does-halal-method-animal-slaughter-involve

    Your link relates to Britain, my own is to the Halal certifiers of Ireland, where they explicity state the animal must be conscious.

    Stop digging.


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