Swedish Finance minister to asylum seekers: Don't come to Sweden

MilesMorales1

Swedish finance minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview has said that she regrets her government's decision to let more than 160,000 refugees into Sweden in 2015, and she said integration is not working.


Integration is not working properly. It didn't work before the autumn of 2015 either, but for me it is obvious that we cannot have a larger asylum reception than we are able to integrate. That is not good for the people who come here and it is not good for society at large either."

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

SnakePlissken

monnies wrote: »

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

FFS

Joeseph Balls

monnies wrote: »

130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

Maybe start a thread on it?

SnakePlissken

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Swedish finance minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview has said that she regrets her government's decision to let more than 160,000 refugees into Sweden in 2015, and she said integration is not working.


Integration is not working properly. It didn't work before the autumn of 2015 either, but for me it is obvious that we cannot have a larger asylum reception than we are able to integrate. That is not good for the people who come here and it is not good for society at large either."

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it... believe in equality for women and the gay community.

The_Valeyard

monnies wrote: »

130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

I see what you did there.


I tip my hat.

The_Valeyard

SnakePlissken wrote: »

You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it... believe in equality for women and the gay community.

The horse will be beheaded for insulting the Prophet.

SnakePlissken

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SnakePlissken

The_Valeyard wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it... believe in equality for women and the gay community.

The horse will be beheaded for insulting the Prophet.

The horse meat will be halal so.

Collie D

Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS

The_Valeyard

Collie D wrote: »

Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS

Okay,

Whats your opinion on the topic the OP raised?

server down

SnakePlissken wrote: »

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What is this sh1te?

If you can edit a post, you can delete a post.

Collie D

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Okay,

Whats your opinion on the topic the OP raised?

That 160k people is a ****load to take in and the time may now be right for Sweden to have a sensible adult discussion about further immigration.

Something that has been tried on this forum many times but is usually hijacked and end up as a thread about Islam.

SnakePlissken

Collie D wrote: »

Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS

The fuk is the point?

This will go the same way all these threads that touch upon the ugly truths go. Ignorance is bliss.

SnakePlissken

server down wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

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What is this sh1te?

If you can edit a post, you can delete a post.

Someone's panties have gotten in a twist rather easily.

server down

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Someone's panties have gotten in a twist rather easily.

...

monnies

Collie D wrote: »

That 160k people is a ****load to take in and the time may now be right for Sweden to have a sensible adult discussion about further immigration.

Something that has been tried on this forum many times but is usually hijacked and end up as a thread about Islam.

wrong, 160k people is not a lot to take in
do you know how many empty apartments there are in sweden, literally thousands, tens of thousands,
and sweden doesnt have homeless people
and flattening 20 people with a 2 tonne jeep is not terrorism

the_syco

monnies wrote: »

wrong, 160k people is not a lot to take in

It is if it's 160k that don't integrate into Swedish society, and don't take on Swedish norms,

monnies wrote: »

do you know how many empty apartments there are in sweden, literally thousands, tens of thousands,

Are the asylum seekers paying for them?

monnies wrote: »

and sweden doesnt have homeless people

Where did you hear this? They're homeless; they're just given a different name. Imagine you call youth homelessness a child protection problem? The Irish political left would go mad. But in Sweden, youth homelessness is considered a child protection problem on paper. So technically, there are no homeless youth. Crazy what a bit of word play can do, isn't it?

MilesMorales1

monnies wrote: »

wrong, 160k people is not a lot to take in
do you know how many empty apartments there are in sweden, literally thousands, tens of thousands,
and sweden doesnt have homeless people
and flattening 20 people with a 2 tonne jeep is not terrorism

It is a lot, specially relative to their population.

TimeUp

Collie D wrote: »

Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS

The topic the OP raised was being discussed, even in the post about the events in the Philippines, though rather through implicature than directly addressed, the opinion and arguments are very clear.

Kermit.de.frog

I was in Balbriggan first time in many years a few days back and there is some demographic change there!

Not saying it's a bad thing but it's noticeable.

Autochange

I hear Malmo is a nice place to holiday.
Very welcoming.

monnies

Autochange wrote: »

I hear Malmo is a nice place to holiday.
Very welcoming.

all jokes aside,
why don't we copy the scandinavian social system,
they are ranked in the top 5 in the world

monnies

from "trip advisor"
If you're not selling drugs and illegally selling alcohol to minors, you should be fine. The police force in Malmö is very good so there should be no reason to call Malmö a dangerous city. ... In conclusion I would say Malmö is a pretty safe town but it's what you do that makes it safe or not.

Fann Linn

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

A Kerry cllr said something similar and he's called a racist.

Ulysses Gaze

The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.

JohnMc1

Swedenstan is already lost. Their "Feminist" Govt is already wearing hijabs. If they genuinely want to save Sweden then the time for talking about the problem is long past. Now its a time for action.

Send in the military and take back those 60+ No Go Zones. Cut off the welfare to them immediately and ban the building of any more mosques.

silverharp

Autochange wrote: »

I hear Malmo is a nice place to holiday.
Very welcoming.

its a blast apparently

JohnMc1

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.

The problem is that these virtue signaling twits don't expect them to assimilate and adapt to our cultures. The Govts should be saying in no uncertain terms "These are our laws, our customs and our values" You adapt to us. Not the other way around. If any of our culture offends you then by all means feel free to leave and go to a Country more to your liking."

Ulysses Gaze

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The problem is that these virtue signaling twits don't expect them to assimilate and adapt to our cultures. The Govts should be saying in no uncertain terms "These are our laws, our customs and our values" You adapt to us. Not the other way around. If any of our culture offends you then by all means feel free to leave and go to a Country more to your liking."

How can you be expected to adapt and integrate if you come from Jalalabad, Herat or Homs and are thrown into **** accommodation miles from anywhere with no knowledge of the language and where you are surrounded by nothing but your fellow Afghans, Iraqis or Syrians?

No, if the Swedish "Socialists" were really serious about integration they would have immigrant families moving in right next door to them.

But that, as we know, will never happen....

monnies

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.

ireland is already doing that
55 refugees are moving into a new centre beside leo vardkaers house

Ulysses Gaze

monnies wrote: »

all jokes aside,
why don't we copy the scandinavian social system,
they are ranked in the top 5 in the world

Irish people will not pay the tax rates necessary to fund such a system.

We are not an altruistic nation in the Scandinavian meaning of the word.

Ulysses Gaze

monnies wrote: »

ireland is already doing that
55 refugees are moving into a new centre beside leo vardkaers house

They should not be moved into a centre.

They need to be moved into the community. Into proper housing.
Moving people into a centre builds an "us v them mentality".

monnies

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Irish people will not pay the tax rates necessary to fund such a system.

We are not an altruistic nation in the Scandinavian meaning of the word.

we don't need money to do that
we have free cash from the united nations and imf,
open up the borders
knock down that wall mr gorbachav

Autochange

They need to be moved to another muslim majority country which has similar customs and conditions to what they are used to.

monnies

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

They should not be moved into a centre.

They need to be moved into the community. Into proper housing.
Moving people into a centre builds an "us v them mentality".

i agree 100%
even though germany is the role-model in dealing with refugees,
if you look you can see a lot of videos online of horrific refugee centres in germany
4-500 men from every country under the sun living in converted government buildings,
and unfortunately some nationalities are being the top-dog and bullying the less powerful nationalities (don't want to mention nationalities as i am not racist)

mad muffin

Here’s a radical idea that won’t go down well.

You set up a camp. With all the amenities they need. Each family have their own home. They cook for themselves. Have everything provided. Entertainment the lot. They are welcome.

All they have to do is learn the language and culture of their host country. For six months a year? They do this for 8 hours a day five days a week. They’re basically at school studying to integrate into the culture.

If they need after that they study for a career. They become welcome, productive members of society. They themselves have a self worth and a purpose.

When they are ready they integrate where they are needed. Not lumped into ghettos.

Crazy. I know…

redcup342

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

A lot of who .. wtf .. this is the most dipsh*t post i've seen in ages ..some Irish lad posting some link about a country he knows shag all about.

Some Dutch guy sent me a link to a well respected Dutch News source today referencing the "Irish Mirror" a reputable news source about two lads getting married in Ireland to avoid tax.


Are we more worried about "them" ? or the "not Gays" ?

Autochange

mad muffin wrote: »

Here’s a radical idea that won’t go down well.

You set up a camp. With all the amenities they need. Each family have their own home. They cook for themselves. Have everything provided. Entertainment the lot. They are welcome.

All they have to do is learn the language and culture of their host country. For six months a year? They do this for 8 hours a day five days a week. They’re basically at school studying to integrate into the culture.

If they need after that they study for a career. They become welcome, productive members of society. They themselves have a self worth and a purpose.

When they are ready they integrate where they are needed. Not lumped into ghettos.

Crazy. I know…

I dont want my tax money used to pay for that. Why cant i have a free house, entertainment, healthcare and schooling?

server down

redcup342 wrote: »

A lot of who .. wtf .. this is the most dipsh*t post i've seen in ages ..some Irish lad posting some link about a country he knows shag all about.

Some Dutch guy sent me a link to a well respected Dutch News source today referencing the "Irish Mirror" a reputable news source about two lads getting married in Ireland to avoid tax.


Are we more worried about "them" ? or the "not Gays" ?

Two lads did get married to avoid tax.

mad muffin

Autochange wrote: »

I dont want my tax money used to pay for that. Why cant i have a free house, entertainment, healthcare and schooling?

We could have a fair and equal society where no one goes without. We have the means to achieve this… if we really wanted to.

Autochange

mad muffin wrote: »

We could have a fair and equal society where no one goes without. We have the means to achieve this… if we really wanted to.

Human nature and greed would never allow this to happen. Its a pipe dream.

mad muffin

Autochange wrote: »

Human nature and greed would never allow this to happen. Its a pipe dream.

That’s the sad truth.

Ronaldinho

mad muffin wrote: »

We could have a fair and equal society where no one goes without. We have the means to achieve this… if we really wanted to.

A noble ambition, but do we really have the means?

Insofar as GDP is a good measure, the economy is booming and yet we're barely balancing the budget.

Edit: As things stand we rank very highly Internationally in terms of social supports.
We need to not lose the run of ourselves to ensure we can provide this support on a sustainable basis.

I think the penny has now dropped across Continental Europe that a sustainable welfare state and unfettered immigration are exceptionally difficult to maintain in tandem. Although it's probably more to do with the political fallout we've seen because of these issues.

wakka12

monnies wrote: »

130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

Filipino users must be insulted the only time the disaster there is mentioned is in response to muslim threads

Will I Am Not

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I was in Balbriggan first time in many years a few days back and there is some demographic change there!

Not saying it's a bad thing but it's noticeable.

Balbriggan is the guinea pig for Ireland. It’s not working well.

There’s a Facebook group called Balbriggan against Racism. Where this sort of stuff in the pics below goes on... Nobody wants to talk about it, just shut down any concerns.

The “racist” post was a post warning taxi drivers to be careful after a taxi driver was beaten and robbed by a gang of black teens.

There was another post with a video of some man shouting abuse at a gang of black young lads, they recorded it and posted it in that group trying to make out they were the victims. It stayed up until someone came along and said they witnessed the whole thing and the young lads pushed him around, threw abuse at him and only recorded the part where he got mad. The post was promptly deleted.

4068ac1elhodqr

Think Sweden is a bit late to change it's current course of action. PEW stats show Sweden could be up to (high scenario) 30% Muslim by 2050.

Sweetemotion

Irish Man Prank Calls Muslim Phone Show

Can't see these two cultures ever intergrating.

Marvin Straight Pepper

Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »

Think Sweden is a bit late to change it's current course of action. PEW stats show Sweden could be up to (high scenario) 30% Muslim by 2050.

Ireland 4.4% Muslim by 2050?

I'm almost annoyed it's so low. I understood from AH that we were on the cusp of a mosque in every townland and Sharia law in our Courts.

Omackeral

mad muffin wrote: »

Here’s a radical idea that won’t go down well.

You set up a camp...

Eeeeeek

PeterParker957

Deleted User wrote: »

Marvin Straight Pepper wrote: »

Think Sweden is a bit late to change it's current course of action. PEW stats show Sweden could be up to (high scenario) 30% Muslim by 2050.

Ireland 4.4% Muslim by 2050?

I'm almost annoyed it's so low. I understood from AH that we were on the cusp of a mosque in every townland and Sharia law in our Courts.

This is exactly the point - the numbers are so low (but increasing) and yet the amount of bending over backwards to them is insane.

Wanderer78

I wonder is the fact that Sweden is in the midst of a credit fuelled housing boom, anything to do with the unrest they're experiencing in their society? Just a thought