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Swedish Finance minister to asylum seekers: Don't come to Sweden

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  • 23-12-2017 10:07pm
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    MilesMorales1
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    Swedish finance minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview has said that she regrets her government's decision to let more than 160,000 refugees into Sweden in 2015, and she said integration is not working.


    Integration is not working properly. It didn't work before the autumn of 2015 either, but for me it is obvious that we cannot have a larger asylum reception than we are able to integrate. That is not good for the people who come here and it is not good for society at large either."


    http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


    Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.


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    SnakePlissken
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    monnies wrote: »
    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


    Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

    130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

    FFS


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    Joeseph Balls
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    monnies wrote: »
    130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

    Maybe start a thread on it?


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    SnakePlissken
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    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    Swedish finance minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview has said that she regrets her government's decision to let more than 160,000 refugees into Sweden in 2015, and she said integration is not working.


    Integration is not working properly. It didn't work before the autumn of 2015 either, but for me it is obvious that we cannot have a larger asylum reception than we are able to integrate. That is not good for the people who come here and it is not good for society at large either."


    http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


    Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

    You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it... believe in equality for women and the gay community.


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    The_Valeyard
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    monnies wrote: »
    130people were killed in the monsoon floods in the phillipines today aswell

    I see what you did there.


    I tip my hat.


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    The_Valeyard
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it... believe in equality for women and the gay community.

    The horse will be beheaded for insulting the Prophet.


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    SnakePlissken
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    ...


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    SnakePlissken
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it... believe in equality for women and the gay community.

    The horse will be beheaded for insulting the Prophet.

    The horse meat will be halal so.


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    Collie D
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    Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS


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    The_Valeyard
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    Collie D wrote: »
    Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS

    Okay,

    Whats your opinion on the topic the OP raised?


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    server down
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
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    What is this sh1te?

    If you can edit a post, you can delete a post.


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    Collie D
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Okay,

    Whats your opinion on the topic the OP raised?

    That 160k people is a ****load to take in and the time may now be right for Sweden to have a sensible adult discussion about further immigration.

    Something that has been tried on this forum many times but is usually hijacked and end up as a thread about Islam.


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    SnakePlissken
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    Collie D wrote: »
    Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS

    The fuk is the point?

    This will go the same way all these threads that touch upon the ugly truths go. Ignorance is bliss.


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    SnakePlissken
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    server down wrote: »
    SnakePlissken wrote: »
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    What is this sh1te?

    If you can edit a post, you can delete a post.

    Someone's panties have gotten in a twist rather easily.


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    server down
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Someone's panties have gotten in a twist rather easily.

    ...


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    monnies
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    Collie D wrote: »
    That 160k people is a ****load to take in and the time may now be right for Sweden to have a sensible adult discussion about further immigration.

    Something that has been tried on this forum many times but is usually hijacked and end up as a thread about Islam.

    wrong, 160k people is not a lot to take in
    do you know how many empty apartments there are in sweden, literally thousands, tens of thousands,
    and sweden doesnt have homeless people
    and flattening 20 people with a 2 tonne jeep is not terrorism


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    the_syco
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    monnies wrote: »
    wrong, 160k people is not a lot to take in
    It is if it's 160k that don't integrate into Swedish society, and don't take on Swedish norms,
    monnies wrote: »
    do you know how many empty apartments there are in sweden, literally thousands, tens of thousands,
    Are the asylum seekers paying for them?
    monnies wrote: »
    and sweden doesnt have homeless people
    Where did you hear this? They're homeless; they're just given a different name. Imagine you call youth homelessness a child protection problem? The Irish political left would go mad. But in Sweden, youth homelessness is considered a child protection problem on paper. So technically, there are no homeless youth. Crazy what a bit of word play can do, isn't it?


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    MilesMorales1
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    monnies wrote: »
    wrong, 160k people is not a lot to take in
    do you know how many empty apartments there are in sweden, literally thousands, tens of thousands,
    and sweden doesnt have homeless people
    and flattening 20 people with a 2 tonne jeep is not terrorism

    It is a lot, specially relative to their population.


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    TimeUp
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    Collie D wrote: »
    Any chance of discussing the topic the OP raised? FFS
    The topic the OP raised was being discussed, even in the post about the events in the Philippines, though rather through implicature than directly addressed, the opinion and arguments are very clear.


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    I was in Balbriggan first time in many years a few days back and there is some demographic change there!

    Not saying it's a bad thing but it's noticeable.


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    Autochange
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    I hear Malmo is a nice place to holiday.
    Very welcoming.


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    monnies
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    Autochange wrote: »
    I hear Malmo is a nice place to holiday.
    Very welcoming.

    all jokes aside,
    why don't we copy the scandinavian social system,
    they are ranked in the top 5 in the world


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    monnies
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    from "trip advisor"
    If you're not selling drugs and illegally selling alcohol to minors, you should be fine. The police force in Malmö is very good so there should be no reason to call Malmö a dangerous city. ... In conclusion I would say Malmö is a pretty safe town but it's what you do that makes it safe or not.


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    Fann Linn
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    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6848940


    Thats a bit worrying for the future isn't it. Maybe integration can work in other countries? Germany's taken in an awful lot of them.

    A Kerry cllr said something similar and he's called a racist.


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    Ulysses Gaze
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    The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

    They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

    But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

    The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

    So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

    Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.


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    JohnMc1
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    Swedenstan is already lost. Their "Feminist" Govt is already wearing hijabs. If they genuinely want to save Sweden then the time for talking about the problem is long past. Now its a time for action.

    Send in the military and take back those 60+ No Go Zones. Cut off the welfare to them immediately and ban the building of any more mosques.


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    silverharp
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    Autochange wrote: »
    I hear Malmo is a nice place to holiday.
    Very welcoming.

    its a blast apparently

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    JohnMc1
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    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

    They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

    But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

    The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

    So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

    Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.

    The problem is that these virtue signaling twits don't expect them to assimilate and adapt to our cultures. The Govts should be saying in no uncertain terms "These are our laws, our customs and our values" You adapt to us. Not the other way around. If any of our culture offends you then by all means feel free to leave and go to a Country more to your liking."


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    Ulysses Gaze
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    The problem is that these virtue signaling twits don't expect them to assimilate and adapt to our cultures. The Govts should be saying in no uncertain terms "These are our laws, our customs and our values" You adapt to us. Not the other way around. If any of our culture offends you then by all means feel free to leave and go to a Country more to your liking."

    How can you be expected to adapt and integrate if you come from Jalalabad, Herat or Homs and are thrown into **** accommodation miles from anywhere with no knowledge of the language and where you are surrounded by nothing but your fellow Afghans, Iraqis or Syrians?

    No, if the Swedish "Socialists" were really serious about integration they would have immigrant families moving in right next door to them.

    But that, as we know, will never happen....


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    monnies
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    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    The problem is not the immigrants and asylum seekers but the Swedish "Socialists" that have allowed immigrants and asylum seekers into the country.

    They take them into the country, but they throw the asylum seekers out into the middle of nowhere into ghettos, throw them a few kroner and think that that is their job done. Which it is not. It is half the job done.

    But hey! It gives these Middle-Class "Socialists" a warm fuzzy feeling to have taken people in. But **** you if you want us to do any more for you.

    The only way to ensure true integration is to embed immigrant families into middle-class communities. Have them attending the same schools as Middle-Class Kids and attending the same events as Middle-Class kids. And, crucially, live beside Middle-Class families in their leafy suburbs.

    So in essence, the Swedes are no better than the French who throw the immigrants into Les Banlieus and leave them there to rot.

    Typical of the Middle-Class, hypocritical, "Socialists" that they are.

    ireland is already doing that
    55 refugees are moving into a new centre beside leo vardkaers house


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    Ulysses Gaze
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    monnies wrote: »
    all jokes aside,
    why don't we copy the scandinavian social system,
    they are ranked in the top 5 in the world

    Irish people will not pay the tax rates necessary to fund such a system.

    We are not an altruistic nation in the Scandinavian meaning of the word.


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