Should the word "******" be censored in Fairytale of New York

thelad95

thelad95 wrote: »

Scumbag? ******? Slut? Which one OP?

Happy Christmas my ar*e....

sligojoek

This is a thread in the Pogues .com forum from Dec 2007

Gay Pogues guitarist Philip Chevron adds his tuppence worth.

http://pogues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7630

Someone added a link to a PC version of FoNY. Here's the relevant verse.


You are clearly short of money,
And you like Seventies music similar to that once produced by the Sex Pistols,
And you, it has to be said, appear to be a woman of loose morals with a heroin problem,
Evidenced by the fact that you’re in hospital and on a drip to boot,
You’re not a nice person and you remind me of an insect of the kind people often use when they go fishing,
You are not expensive and you are possibly homosexual not that there’s anythiing wrong with that,
Happy Christmas/Hannukah/Ramadan/Winter Solstice* my bottom,
I pray to God/Buddah/Muhhamed/Yahweh/Nobody at all that we don’t have another one.

JupiterKid

Nope, the song was written 30 years ago during a very different time. Should we rewrite old songs and books to fit into today’s standards?

And I’m saying that as a gay man.

TheRiverman

Ballstein wrote: »

Ronan Keating singing they song is far more offensive than any word will ever be.

Also Ed Sheeran.

kenmc

anna080 wrote: »

The whole fcuking song should be censored because it's literal horse shlt

Heathen! Burn him/her/it/them!

REBELSAFC

Why are there no girls in the NYPD Choir? Sexist Bastards

danganabu

REBELSAFC wrote: »

Why are there no girls in the NYPD Choir? Sexist Bastards

Because it doesn't exist!!

dasdog

You’re a bum
You’re a punk
You’re an old slut on junk

Like it or not, censorship should not be tolerated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS05UxBVTtY

TheRiverman

LOOK WHAT WE’VE DONE

Do you remember the day
When if you said that you were gay
It meant with joy you could sing and shout ?
A fairy was enchanting,
And dressing up and camping
Was something you did with the Scouts

That carefree age
When an urgent case of AIDS
Was powdered milk we sent to the Sahara.
A fruit was something nice to eat,
A poof was something for your feet,
And a queen was an old tart in a tiara.

CHORUS

Look what we’ve done
To the old mother tongue,
It’s a crime the way we’ve misused it.
It’s been totally diswobbled, pulverised and gollywabbled;
We’ve strangled, fangled, mangled and abused it.

Those far off times
When a bong meant a chime,
And a buzz was a noisy insecticidal.
A joint was something between bones,
And getting really stoned
Only happened to bad people in the Bible.

When if you had a bad trip
It meant you fell and broke your hip;
Cold turkey just meant Christmas meat and tatties.
Coke was something that you burned,
Smack was something that you earned
From your mumsy-wumsy when you had been naughty.

CHORUS

The years have gone I’m afraid
When only eggs got laid
And only the rhinoceros got horny.
Only kangaroos jumped,
Only camels got humped;
Getting stuffed meant a little taxidermy.

Swinging was for trapezes
Or Tarzan’s chimpanzeeses,
Tossing off was something Scotsmen did with cabers -
You’ll know just what that means,
But a really ugly scene
Was any movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

CHORUS

dasdog

The law suits of the 1980's resulted in the Parental Warning labels on records and cd's. AIDS by MOD and Fuk The Middle East wouldn't pass scrutiny. Totally anti fascist but censorship boards cant read between the lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jvVsf789y8

Patty O Furniture

PeterParker957 wrote: »

We're getting close. Lunacy!!!!

What sounds like White (Christmas) oh yeah, Contrite

The PC Brigade is everywhere,

Shure wasn't St Luke's or st James Hospital the crib taken away from the front of the hospital & another hospital took down the religious pictures from a church:o

sligojoek

Here's the full version.

Politically Correct version of FONY
by Paddy Murray

It was December 24th, equal status female friend,
In the area set aside for the treatment of those with alcohol problems,
A senior citizen suggested that i seek medical help for fear that I may suffer fatal consquences from my condition in the coming twelve months,
Then he sang a song,
Which appeared to be about an alcoholic drink,
I was a bit rude, I admit, and turned away,
But I fell asleep and I dreamed of you.

I had a bet today - though I know that offends those in many religions -
And it came in at eighteen to one,
I have a feeling,
This year’s for me and you,
So Happy Christmas/Hannukah/Ramadan/Winter Solstice*
I love you equal status female friend,
I can see a better time,
When all our dreams come true

They’ve got high emission mechanically propelled vehicles the size of licensed premises,
They’ve got rivers of gold,
But the wind goes right through you,
And those in their senior years really should wrap up well or, better still, stay indoors,
When you first took my hand,
On a cold December 24th,
You promised me Broadway was waiting for me.

You were handsome but not in a way that suggests other males were less so,
And you were handsome too, in a similar way,
Queen of New York City,
When the band finished playing,
They cheered and shouted “encore”
Sinatra was swinging - though not in the irresponsible, partner swapping sexual sense,
And those with alcohol problems were singing,
We kissed on a corner
And danced through the night.

And the boys of the NYPD choir,
Were singing Galway bay,
And the bells were ringing out,
For the 25th of December.

You are clearly short of money,
And you like Seventies music similar to that once produced by the Sex Pistols,
And you, it has to be said, appear to be a woman of loose morals with a heroin problem,
Evidenced by the fact that you’re in hospital and on a drip to boot,
You’re not a nice person and you remind me of an insect of the kind people often use when they go fishing,
You are not expensive and you are possibly homosexual not that there’s anythiing wrong with that,
Happy Christmas/Hannukah/Ramadan/Winter Solstice* my bottom,
I pray to God/Buddah/Muhhamed/Yahweh/Nobody at all that we don’t have another one.

And the boys of the NYPD choir,
Were singing Galway bay,
And the bells were ringing out,
For the 25th of December.

I could have been someone,
Well,that’s true of everyone,
You took my dreams from me
When I first found you,
I kept them with me equal status female friend,
I put them with my own,
Can’t make it all alone,
I built my dreams around you.


And the boys of the NYPD choir,
Were singing Galway bay,
And the bells were ringing out,
For the 25th of December.


*For a full list of religious festivals from around the world held at this time of year, please send a stamped addressed envelope to, oh, the BBC.

Permabear

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sligojoek

There's videos of Shane doing 'Boys from the County Hell' in TOTP type shows on the continent where ,instead of singing 'He was a miserable bollox and a bitches bastards whore', he sang 'He was a miserable baaaawwww and a baaawwww baaaaawww baaaaaaaW baaaaaaawwwww. Looked at the camera and rolled his eyes to heaven.

LETHAL LADY

It's a song about a drunken/drug addled couple arguing. It has very dark lyrics, but isn't that the whole point? I've heard worse spats between langers couples in my hometown tbh. Still love the song though and hate when it's censored.

Rubberchikken

Take out that word and where will it end?
No. Leave in ******. Different time. And everything said and done now isnt always right either.

DavidLyons_

Permabear wrote: »

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In the US, at least, they came about because of a crusade by Tipper Gore (former wife of Al Gore) inspired by hearing references to masturbation in Prince's "Darling Nikki."

I am very opposed to this kind of censorship. Shane MacGowan is one of Ireland's finest lyricists (in fact, I would argue, one of its finest writers) and deserves to be celebrated rather than censored.[/quote]
This. A million times over.

Tipper Gore was a wicked, witch of a person. She managed to silence Jello Biafra, for the most part.

Why would we censor people like McGowan?

It's the likes of Sheeran and Keating and their ilk we should be telling to fcuk up! Peddlers of bland, dreary, middle of the road drivel.

EPAndlee

This is why I like Will Smith and his non offensive rap lyrics

ShagNastii

I'm so happy my favourite movie Blazing Saddles was made when it was.

Mel Brooks has said himself that he would have no chance of getting it made nowadays. I think starting fresh, if he even highlighted the premise of the movie he'd probably be arrested.

sligojoek

Shane has a song told from the perspective of an Irish tramp sitting on a park bench in London ranting and raving like Alf Garnet.

. Part of the song went

With me in charge I'd execute the Artistic Queers
And all the fuckin' bastards that drink trendy Irish beers
My death squads would be kids from flats
All high from sniffing glue
I'd use them to kill rich Brits
And the journalistic whores

For the last line Shane wanted to use "and parasitic Jews."

The record company were having none of it.

garancafan

The lyrics don't bother me but could not the off-key notes be censored?

Irish Guitarist

"You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy...".

What's the point in censoring it? You don't have to be a genius to figure out what she's saying. How many other insults rhyme with maggot? If it is deemed as offensive then it just shouldn't be played. If I hear a song playing and suddenly there's a bleeping noise over the words I actually find it disorientating. I'd rather just not hear a song than to hear it with words bleeped out.

Actually just ban the song. Not because it's offensive but because it's a load of annoying, overplayed, overrated shite.