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Should the word "******" be censored in Fairytale of New York

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  • 14-12-2017 2:26pm
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    Omackeral
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    Saw this ongoing on another thread and was wondering if people are as bothered by it as one poster in particular was.

    Is it political correctness? Is it right to beep it out or change it? Should I even have censored the thread title?


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    eamonnq
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    Nah


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    Blitzkrieger
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    Which word? Christmas?


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    MagicIRL
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    The song was written in a different time.

    Just like early Warner Bros. cartoons that depict racism, history should never be re-written to fit into the current (however correct) way of thinking.


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    thelad95
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    Scumbag? ******? Slut? Which one OP?


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    PeterParker957
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    Saw this ongoing on another thread and was wondering if people are as bothered by it as one poster in particular was.

    Is it political correctness? Is it right to beep it out or change it? Should I even have censored the thread title?

    I believe not.

    I have no problem with it, no one I know has a problem with it and the friends I have who apparently "should" have a problem with it said "get over your f**king self, it's only a word".


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    Ballstein
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    Ronan Keating singing they song is far more offensive than any word will ever be.


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    PeterParker957
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    Ballstein wrote: »
    Ronan Keating singing they song is far more offensive than any word will ever be.

    Done.


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    TheQuietFella
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    Ballstein wrote: »
    Ronan Keating singing they song is far more offensive than any word will ever be.

    Brilliant!!!!!


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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Not before a judgement has been reached at the International Court of Justice anyway.

    Ronan Keating ‘Fairytale Of New York’ Trial Begins At The Hague


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    whisky_galore
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    Good song but waaaay overplayed.


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    faceman
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    The word is also used throughout the second verse of Dire Straits song “Money for Nothing” and System of a Down song “Hollywood Boulevard”.

    I don’t agree with censorship unless the content is inciting hatred or devoid of artistic merit.


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    DavyD_83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    I'm a firm believer that no songs should be censored.
    Play them in full or not at all.


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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
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    rtron
    Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭rtron


    Next ye'll want Cypress hill to take out the ****** word in all they're songs.


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    wakka12
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    thelad95 wrote: »
    Scumbag? ******? Slut? Which one OP?

    They say fagg!t in the song I think thats what he's talking

    scumbag you maggot you're a cheap lousy fagg!t

    Im gay and I don't think it should be changed, its the ONLY decent christmas song lets leave it alone


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    Your Face
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    The original classic song will far outlast the current regrettable fashion of PC false outrage.


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    me_irl
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    Bundle of sticks?


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    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,753 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbDKNHMDrEU


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    Wheeliebin30
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    But conor McGregor used it and has now been labelled homophobic????


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    TheQuietFella
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    They say fagg!t in the song I think thats what he's talking

    scumbag you maggot you're a cheap lousy fagg!t

    Im gay and I don't think it should be changed, its the ONLY decent christmas song lets leave it alone

    Completely agree! Should 'smack my bi*ch up' be censored also?

    What about 'White Christmas' Should that get the elbow also in case we

    offend all our new brothers and sisters from sunnier climes!


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    PeterParker957
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    But conor McGregor used it and has now been labelled homophobic????

    Context. He meant it in the sense that someone was acting weak.

    Plus he's a bo***x and so gets zero leeway!


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    PeterParker957
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    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    Completely agree! Should 'smack my bi*ch up' be censored also?

    What about 'White Christmas' Should that get the elbow also in case we

    offend all our new brothers and sisters from sunnier climes!
    http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/13/ucl-apologises-asking-students-dreaming-white-campus-7157665/

    We're getting close. Lunacy!!!!


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    Omackeral
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    Just noticed the word is literally bleeped out in the thread title!


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    TheQuietFella
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    PeterParker957 wrote: »
    We're getting close. Lunacy!!!!

    Yeah, it's going that way isn't it!

    There's a billboard on the quays in Dublin advertising 'Smirnoff Vodka' featuring three transgender men with the caption 'Labels are meant for bottles' which I think is very apt and everyone should remember that!


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    andekwarhola
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    Is it actually bleeped out anymore? Every time I hear it on the radio, it's unexpurgated?


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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
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    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    Completely agree! Should 'smack my bi*ch up' be censored also?

    What about 'White Christmas' Should that get the elbow also in case we

    offend all our new brothers and sisters from sunnier climes!

    White Christmas could also encourage coke heads to relapse into addiction. ;)


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    Rory28
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    PeterParker957 wrote: »
    We're getting close. Lunacy!!!!

    #blacksnowmatters


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    TheQuietFella
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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »
    White Christmas could also encourage coke heads to relapse into addiction. ;)

    Another nail in the coffin for this Christmas classic!


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    Endaaaagh
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp8_FzJO458


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    Turnipman
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    And, while we're all enjoying ourselves in the PC sandpit, what about Joseph Conrad's excellent novel written in 1896?

    Should it be thrown out of President Michael D Higgins's library in the Aras - assuming that it's there!


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