U2/Geldof and Freedom of Dublin

10000maniacs

I don't know, but should it be used as a political bargaining tool or is it ok?
I don't think it should be in Geldofs or Bonos remit to put pressure on the city to rescind Aung San Suu Kyi's award.
Is this yet another example of liberal fascism.

Fr_Dougal

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bob-geldof-and-jeanne-marine-celebrities-attend-the-aung-san-suu-kyi-65941316.html

They can both feck off.

SuperSean11

Freedom isn’t free
Vote Trump
Make Ireland great again

Zebra3

Bob Geldof has accepted honours in the name of the British Empire.

I don't think anyone should listen to somebody who is happy to accept an award steeped in genocide, slavery and ethnic cleansing.

PS: The Burmese one is a kunt. Bono too.

mad muffin

They’re all cünts. The world is filled to the brim with them. We’re stuck in the middle of this cünt fest.

Pithythefool

What a pretentious load of shyte, the whole thing.

What did U2 ever do for anyone? What about your woman? She got locked up for 5 thousand years in Claymation land, so some eejits in Dublin give her the "freedom" of the city. What?

I threw a knackered toaster at a bus earlier today, cant wait for the Japanese to give me the Okinawa Medal of Outstanding Achievement for Awesome Biscuits

lazybones32

I think they should stfu. Or go liberate the rohingya in person. You'd swear the freedom of Dublin is up there with the Nobel's the way the boys go on...

Pithythefool

lazybones32 wrote: »

I think they should stfu. Or go liberate the rohingya in person. You'd swear the freedom of Dublin is up there with the Nobel's the way the boys go on...

The nobel prize isn't worth much either these days. Some categories, maybe.

Giving the nobel peace prize to barack Obama for.....something*.....was the death knell for its respect.

(being black?)

dotsman

She was awarded the Freedom of the city because of U2.

That's why it matters when they ask Dublin City Council to remove it from her.

U2 are doing the right thing. If they didn't, the lazy cúnts would be criticising Bono/U2 for not doing so.

So now, let's hear all the lazy cúnts complain when they are doing the right thing*.

*For the purpose of this post, the definition of a "lazy cúnt" is someone, at the mere mention of bono/u2, have to post that they don't like him/them. It wasn't funny/cool/real 30 years ago, and it's just lazy and retarded repeating the same ****e in 2017. Please find some other way to entertain yourself.

worded

SuperSean11 wrote: »

Freedom isn’t free
Vote Trump
Make Ireland great again

Yeah and build a wall around limerick and make them pay for it

Annasopra

10000maniacs wrote: »

I don't know, but should it be used as a political bargaining tool or is it ok?
I don't think it should be in Geldofs or Bonos remit to put pressure on the city to rescind Aung San Suu Kyi's award.
Is this yet another example of liberal fascism.

So basically you dont think Geldof/Bono should have have freedom of expression and you are calling Geldof and Bono fascists. Bizarre.

Annasopra

SuperSean11 wrote: »

Freedom isn’t free
Vote Trump
Make Ireland great again

This is just
Random
Gibberish

Dr Crayfish

Who cares what these 2 pontificating gobsh*tes have to say?

valoren

Freedom! (I won't let you down)
Freedom! (I will not give you up)
You've gotta give for what you take (It's the one good thing that I've got)

razorblunt

I didn't realise they were being taken seriously at all.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Zebra3 wrote: »

Bob Geldof has accepted honours in the name of the British Empire.

I don't think anyone should listen to somebody who is happy to accept an award steeped in genocide, slavery and ethnic cleansing.

PS: The Burmese one is a kunt. Bono too.

My favourite was when he pretended that he was going to be offering his home to a family of Syrian refugees, and very publicly berated anyone who wasn't prepared to throw open their doors to do the same.

Spoiler alert: He never took in a single Syrian refugee. But he did get his massive ego stroked and plenty of self publicity. It's like crack cocaine for these celebrities.

brainfreeze

Pithythefool wrote: »

Giving the nobel peace prize to barack Obama for.....something*.....was the death knell for its respect.

No it wasn't. Only people that don't understand the history Nobel peace prize say that. It has even been given to people that have been accused of terrorism and of committing war crimes.

The Nobel Peace prize has always been given to certain people as a guilt award. To make sure a certain leader fulfills a promise or statement they have made, by bringing light to it to the entire world, and therefor pressuring them to follow through otherwise facing shame to the entire planet for being a bull****ter.

That's what they did with Obama. They wanted to empower a specific promise he made.

...something*...

(being black?)

No it wasn't for being black, also the "something*" isn't a mystery. It was written on the award, stated in the announcement, and reported by the world media. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his promises on nuclear nonproliferation . The something* is nuclear nonproliferation.

Which his administration did have great strides in, with both Russia and Iran.

This whole "It's lost it's meaning since Obama!!1!" narrative is drivel spread by Rupert Murdochs various media outlets (Fox/Sky/Tabloids), to play on peoples ignorance of the history of the award. It clearly worked, here you are 10 years later repeating it.

Hande hoche!

Telling that the article is written about six years after the prize was awarded.

Your Face

F--k John Lennon

lazybones32

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Who cares what these 2 pontificating gobsh*tes have to say?

I do.

You care enough to post, no?

10000maniacs

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

So basically you dont think Geldof/Bono should have have freedom of expression and you are calling Geldof and Bono fascists. Bizarre.

Bono, Geldof, RTE, BBC and certain forums should allow us to make up our own minds about such issues. These people and organizations are not supreme custodians of the absolute truth that should be agreed with at all times.
I will make up my own mind about it. And so should Dublin City Council.
Let them give back their awards. All they are doing is showing disrespect to their home town.
Ronald Reagan once said "if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." So very true.

brainfreeze

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Telling that the article is written about six years after the prize was awarded.

Re-read my post. It's written for people like you.

Odhinn

10000maniacs wrote: »

Bono, Geldof, RTE, BBC and certain forums should allow us to make up our own minds about such issues. These people and organizations are not supreme custodians of the absolute truth that should be agreed with at all times.
I will make up my own mind about it. And so should Dublin City Council.
Let them give back their awards. All they are doing showing disrespect to their home town.
Ronald Reagan once said "if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." So very true.

....and as a man who backed more than a few death squads, he'd know allright.

10000maniacs

Odhinn wrote: »

....and as a man who backed more than a few death squads, he'd know allright.

Love your generalization soundbite.
Reagan took a stand against communism in Central America. Maybe the alternative would have been ten times worse, who knows?

Fann Linn

dotsman wrote: »

She was awarded the Freedom of the city because of U2.

That's why it matters when they ask Dublin City Council to remove it from her.

U2 are doing the right thing. If they didn't, the lazy cúnts would be criticising Bono/U2 for not doing so.

So now, let's hear all the lazy cúnts complain when they are doing the right thing*.

*For the purpose of this post, the definition of a "lazy cúnt" is someone, at the mere mention of bono/u2, have to post that they don't like him/them. It wasn't funny/cool/real 30 years ago, and it's just lazy and retarded repeating the same ****e in 2017. Please find some other way to entertain yourself.

I'm all for giving kunts the freedom of the city.

AlekSmart

Pithythefool wrote: »

What a pretentious load of shyte, the whole thing.

What did U2 ever do for anyone? What about your woman? She got locked up for 5 thousand years in Claymation land, so some eejits in Dublin give her the "freedom" of the city. What?

I threw a knackered toaster at a bus earlier today, cant wait for the Japanese to give me the Okinawa Medal of Outstanding Achievement for Awesome Biscuits

It was'nt knackered.....Lovely browned/buttered soldiers and a boiled egg testify to that....can we have our award back...Sayonara !

topper75

worded wrote: »

Yeah and build a wall around limerick and make them pay for it

Had an absolute beauty around it years back. It's white bricks gleamed in the morning sun and reflected in the still waters of the Shannon whilst Munster rugby banners fluttered in the wind atop noble turrets.

Then, the protestants, up to no good as usual...

Odhinn

10000maniacs wrote: »

Love your generalization soundbite.
Reagan took a stand against communism in Central America. Maybe the alternative would have been ten times worse, who knows?

Reagan "took a stand" by backing any goon who trundled up to him, and it resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead.

10000maniacs

Odhinn wrote: »

Reagan "took a stand" by backing any goon who trundled up to him, and it resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead.

Love your generalization soundbite again.

Pithythefool

brainfreeze wrote: »

No it wasn't. Only people that don't understand the history Nobel peace prize say that. It has even been given to people that have been accused of terrorism and of committing war crimes.

The Nobel Peace prize has always been given to certain people as a guilt award. To make sure a certain leader fulfills a promise or statement they have made, by bringing light to it to the entire world, and therefor pressuring them to follow through otherwise facing shame to the entire planet for being a bull****ter.

That's what they did with Obama. They wanted to empower a specific promise he made.





No it wasn't for being black, also the "something*" isn't a mystery. It was written on the award, stated in the announcement, and reported by the world media. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his promises on nuclear nonproliferation . The something* is nuclear nonproliferation.

Which his administration did have great strides in, with both Russia and Iran.

This whole "It's lost it's meaning since Obama!!1!" narrative is drivel spread by Rupert Murdochs various media outlets (Fox/Sky/Tabloids), to play on peoples ignorance of the history of the award. It clearly worked, here you are 10 years later repeating it.

The mental hoops you have to jump through to get to this conclusion..."a guilt award", "I believe the dribble put in the statement", "I cant see any precedent set beforehand", "I can ignore Obama's admitted confusion over receiving it" and on and on.

I think I'll solve world hunger sometime in the future. That would be nice.

Now please give me a nice, big sum of money to "guilt" me into actually doing it. Great stuff!

Reading between the gulf in the lines, Obama was the first black president in the united states and the idiots couldn't contain themselves with "virtue signalling".

So yeah, the respect for the award took a big blow.

Odhinn

Pithythefool wrote: »

The mental hoops you have to jump through to get to this conclusion..."a guilt award", "I believe the dribble put in the statement", "I cant see any precedent set beforehand", "I can ignore Obama's admitted confusion over receiving it" and on and on.

I think I'll solve world hunger sometime in the future. That would be nice.

Now please give me a nice, big sum of money to "guilt" me into actually doing it. Great stuff!

Reading between the gulf in the lines, Obama was the first black president in the united states and the idiots couldn't contain themselves with "virtue signalling".

So yeah, the respect for the award took a big blow.

It's generally agreed the award was disgraced when it was awarded to Kissinger in the early 1970's. Obamas award, which some might say was unmerited, isn't in the same league as that farce.

Pithythefool

Odhinn wrote: »

It's generally agreed the award was disgraced when it was awarded to Kissinger in the early 1970's. Obamas award, which some might say was unmerited, isn't in the same league as that farce.

Some might say was unmerited? Really, just some?

I didn't know about the Kissinger thing, but that hardly excuses f*cking it up again. In fact, it should be all the more reason not to do it again.

Odhinn

Pithythefool wrote: »

Some might say was unmerited? Really, just some?

I didn't know about the Kissinger thing, but that hardly excuses f*cking it up again. In fact, it should be all the more reason not to do it again.

There is no comparison. I'd suggest reading up on kissinger.

Pithythefool

Odhinn wrote: »

There is no comparison. I'd suggest reading up on kissinger.

And yet you are making the comparison.

In my lifetime, the Obama thing is a joke. Just because someone else might be a joke doesn't preclude the other from being a joke.

10000maniacs

10000maniacs wrote: »

Is this yet another example of liberal fascism.

No, because there is no such thing as "liberal fascism" and anyone who uses that term unironically clearly has no idea what either word actually means.

Tom Mann Centuria

https://twitter.com/Jimllpaintit/status/940656416314019840

Atoms for Peace

It's easy for the likes of Geldof and Bono to snipe from the sidelines in their comfy seats, Aung San is operating in the murky world of real politics and hard decisions where the military junta still hold the real power.

If it was up to me I rescind U2 and Geldof freedom of the city for their raging hypocrisy.

Herb Powell

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bob-geldof-and-jeanne-marine-celebrities-attend-the-aung-san-suu-kyi-65941316.html

They can both feck off.

Hmmmm, so they supported her before the controversy, therefore they're not allowed to change their opinion in line with changing circumstances?

Shhit enough logic there.

Annasopra

10000maniacs wrote: »

Bono, Geldof, RTE, BBC and certain forums should allow us to make up our own minds about such issues. These people and organizations are not supreme custodians of the absolute truth that should be agreed with at all times.
I will make up my own mind about it. And so should Dublin City Council.
Let them give back their awards. All they are doing is showing disrespect to their home town.
Ronald Reagan once said "if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." So very true.

So you want to remove Bono and Geldofs rights to free speech. That is fascist!

razorblunt

Odhinn wrote: »

There is no comparison. I'd suggest reading up on kissinger.

He never really recovered from losing his glasses down a toilet in a Nuclear Power Plant.

whisky_galore

Giving back/withdrawing the Freedom of Dublin; earth-shattering stuff.

Usual Ireland-centric twattery. The rest of the world doesn't give a flying fcuk.
I'm sure it's giving Aung Sung whatshername many sleepless nights...

brainfreeze

Pithythefool wrote: »

The mental hoops you have to jump through to get to this conclusion..."a guilt award"
bla bla bla bla bla bla

Politically motivated awards being handed out prematurely to influence the person into doing something, is literally mentioned on the nobel peace prizes wikipedia page. There is no mental gymnastics, it's just that you don't know what you are talking about.

It has been expressed that the Peace Prize has been awarded in politically motivated ways for more recent or immediate achievements,[20] or with the intention of encouraging future achievements

That was a nice ramble there pal. But absolutely nothing you said comments on what I highlighted for you in bold, when you said:

was the death knell for its respect.

This is nonsense. You are completely ignoring the past of the nobel peace prize. Lots of people have not respected it in decades due to reasons I laid out (preemptive/guilt awards), and due to who its been given to and why. Others have never respected it. I explained to you the reasons why Nobel gave him the award, because you genuinely didn't know - making guesses and assumptions. So I clarified for you.

This narrative that Obama was "the death knell for its respect" is laughable, and as I said, you believe it because you don't know enough about the subject, you are just repeating what the Murdoch driven media claimed at the time.

By stating that bollocks, you are erasing Wangari Maathai, Yasser Arafat, Le Duc Thọ and Henry Kissinger and plenty more.

Next time, just Google or something.

Zebra3

10000maniacs wrote: »

Love your generalization soundbite.
Reagan took a stand against communism in Central America. Maybe the alternative would have been ten times worse, who knows?

I was in Central America a few years ago visiting a prison camp that was from the time of one of Reagan’s “mates”.

“Is there any mass graves here?” I asked.

“Nope, the prisoners were taken up in helicopters and thrown into volcanoes so there’d be no bodies to find” was the reply.

And you describe it as taking a stand. Quite incredible.

I know of another historical figure who took a stand against communism.....

Hande hoche!

Grand they should give one to Trump so. Might stop him getting shooty with North Korea so.

greenspurs

The city of Jackeens will do what ex pat Multi millionaires tell it to do.

Who really gives a sh1te about getting the "Freedom of the City" anyway ...... Pretentious bullsh1t !!!

stimpson

So Bobby is “disgusted” that the council have done as he asked and removed him from the roll of honour.

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2017/1214/927409-geldof/

You couldn’t make this stuff up. Delighted for him.

suicide_circus

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

JMNolan

He's like a toddler. Firstly he doesn't want it, then tell him he can't have it and then of course he wants it back.

rgodard80a

What did Groucho Marx say... I don't want to be a member of any club that would accept me.

They gave Geldof an award and he felt honoured, then when they used the same low standard criteria for others he felt offended.

suicide_circus

A knight of the realm....

Hoboo

suicide_circus wrote: »

A knight of the realm....

Exactly. Hopefully a few people will come out saying if he gets his back, they don't want theirs