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Army coup to take place in Dublin today

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Seriously, the Irish army couldn't fight their way out of an under 16 GAA disco.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Sciprio


    Meh, Unless it's the Kite.
    EDIT:Probably a terrorism drill or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Seriously, the Irish army couldn't fight their way out of an under 16 GAA disco.

    You could always see what happens but I suspect if they are able to deal with Liberian rebels they can deal with ordinary Irish trouble makers https://www.independent.ie/world-news/africa/crack-troops-rescue-hostages-from-gunmen-in-daring-raid-26019636.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    You could always see what happens but I suspect if they are able to deal with Liberian rebels they can deal with ordinary Irish trouble makers https://www.independent.ie/world-news/africa/crack-troops-rescue-hostages-from-gunmen-in-daring-raid-26019636.html

    Reminded me of this:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Seriously, the Irish army couldn't fight their way out of an under 16 GAA disco.

    Check out Siege of Jadotville.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    They were the first troops on the ground in Chad.
    Those who knock them should try it and see how long they last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Check out Siege of Jadotville.

    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    But what is that that they “do” on a daily basis for example


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    You're well wide of the mark with that post, Napoleon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    I'm not going to judge the soldiers capabilities. I believe they would have been excellent.

    However I also read they were hopelessly ill equipped in terms of weapons and what they had to work with.

    Is that true (wouldn't surprise me in the slightest)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    Ah yes keyboard surfer gets all their licks from call of duty on the xbox


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Your Face wrote: »
    You're well wide of the mark with that post, Napoleon.

    So the co didn't allow the attackers time to remove their wounded and dead during the early phases of the attack?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    I'm not going to judge the soldiers capabilities. I believe they would have been excellent.

    However I also read they were hopelessly ill equipped in terms of weapons and what they had to work with.

    Is that true (wouldn't surprise me in the slightest)?

    They ran out a of ammunition I think, they had no choice but surrender, or die of course.
    They were left out to die basically by the UN, Conor Cruise O'Brien had no small part to play in that, he didn't come out of that smelling of roses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    So the co didn't allow the attackers time to remove their wounded and dead during the early phases of the attack?

    Were they appropriately equipped? Evidence suggests not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Seriously, the Irish army couldn't fight their way out of an under 16 GAA disco.

    I don't know about that......it's the one you never hear that gets you ;)

    Defence Forces win international sniper competition

    https://www.facebook.com/DefenceForces/posts/10152735938946166

    Crack troops rescue hostages from gunmen in daring raid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Seriously, the Irish army couldn't fight their way out of an under 16 GAA disco.

    Would you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    No, a well trained, well led light infantry force dug an excellent defensive position and fought off and overwhelming large attacking force that had the benefit of air support......

    ......why 'push' out from a well prepared postion? That's giving up the most significant tactical advantage an isolated force has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    All I can think of is pigeons


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    So the co didn't allow the attackers time to remove their wounded and dead during the early phases of the attack?

    Id be proud of our army if they allowed injured enemy combatants be removed from the field rather than letting them bleed out under a hot tropical sun.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Id be proud of our army if they allowed injured enemy combatants be removed from the field rather than letting them bleed out under a hot tropical sun.

    But giving time for the enemy to regroup is surely the first thing you don't do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    But giving time for the enemy to regroup is surely the first thing you don't do?

    If on being asked for a ceasefire by your enemy to alow them removed their injured from the field, is it not the decent thing to do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Pretty sure they fought off an attack by isis somewhere out in Lebanon when isis were at their best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Somebody text arlene foster tell her it's the army heading for the border next after they take the capital :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Pretty sure they fought off an attack by isis somewhere out in Lebanon when isis were at their best

    Was Syria dunno if it was Isis but here you go

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/heroic-irish-troops-rescue-filipino-4131748


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    As long as the local Army commanders make their way to funerals, sort out medical cards for people and ring into Liveline occasionally to respond to irate callers then I'm not sure I'm entirely bothered by this impending coup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Seriously, the Irish army couldn't fight their way out of an under 16 GAA disco.

    Do you know how many international military competitions they win? Nope, you don't.

    The Rangers were the first non US team to win the international sniper competition a couple of years ago for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭exaisle


    Your Face wrote: »
    You're well wide of the mark with that post, Napoleon.

    You weren't great at Waterloo either...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    Sometimes I hate the internet as it gives ill informed people like this a platform to spout angry and unsubstantiated drivel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Edward M wrote: »
    Conor Cruise O'Brien had no small part to play in that, he didn't come out of that smelling of roses.

    He was a geebag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭circadian


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    The Irish army, the Rangers in particular are well regarded worldwide.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Do you know how many international military competitions they win? Nope, you don't.

    The Rangers were the first non US team to win the international sniper competition a couple of years ago for example.

    Competitions, I feel safer already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Competitions, I feel safer already.

    Do you expect them to go out and shoot real people as part of their training?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Competitions, I feel safer already.

    Apparently they are in Dublin today so you can go up to them and have a chat about your concerns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Competitions, I feel safer already.

    Dumber, you feel dumber.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    Don't these urban drills always coincide with a terrorist atrocity?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They were the first troops on the ground in Chad.
    Those who knock them should try it and see how long they last.

    And they're in many other countries on missions of peace, such as the Lebanon. People knock our army quite a lot, without remembering that parts of it are considered among the most elite in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    Jawgap wrote: »


    Yeah that rescue operation went smooth and by the book unlike the usually botched, over the top, gung-ho fuckups by the Americans that frequently end up with half the hostages dead and the Americans needing rescuing themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    So long as our future dictator loves his super cool camo socks, I'm all for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    Jawgap wrote: »

    So in other words the only ones to score gold in that exercise (which I'm sure is in the Brecon Beacons where the SAS train) were the Gurkhas and the Irish.

    Maybe you'd want to reassess your judgement there, judeboy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    Id be proud of our army if they allowed injured enemy combatants be removed from the field rather than letting them bleed out under a hot tropical sun.

    From the film, and listening to an ex soldier that was there on local radio, they did initially allow them to do so, but the enemy dropped snipers in the cover whilst doing it and were caught and opened fire on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    You should teach your mad Call of Duty skills and strategies to officer cadets at the Curragh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I suspect judeboy would **** himself rotten if he was ever called up to do what our army does.
    Seriously piss poor attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    Bet this "operation" involves the lads storming into the new victoria secrets store on grafton street and going straight for the fancy knicker department to rescue father ted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭$ausage$


    All I know is if I was there I would have got to that top building and 360 no scoped their leader. Game over sit back and watch the kill cam. bound to get me a cool camo in a supply drop no?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    My stomach started to turn reading some of the blathering shoite on here from ill informed, no good, tree hugging peaceniks...
    ..... Then i remembered that I was in after hours, the Mos Eisley of boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    Ah yes, where the well trained modern European army surrendered to a group of poorly trained natives and a few mercenaries, where the co failed to push an early tactical advantage that would have broken the attack and instead allowed the enemy to regroup.

    Not the best of examples

    5000 vs 158 (with 500 attempting support).
    300+ dead vs 3 dead.

    Not a bad turnout when they were outnumbered 30-1 in the main battle.

    They only surrendered because they ran out of ammo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Id be proud of our army if they allowed injured enemy combatants be removed from the field rather than letting them bleed out under a hot tropical sun.

    Huh?

    Stop the war lads, the enemy want to take out a few of their injured men.

    "Are you all done lads? Give us a thumbs up"

    Right boys...back to slaughtering them again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Our veterens and heroes from Jadotville are very old now. But I have no doubt any one of them, with one arm tied behind their back, would kick seven shades of shlt out of the nobody, keyboard **** stain trying to disparage them on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    There won't be a chicken fillet roll to be had in the town....


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