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Irish Rail September Timetable Changes

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Heard from a good source that Drivers havent even been given so much as roster information as to whos working what when this kicks in and they havent even agreeed to all this yet. For such a significant change to things alot of grief is over the lack of information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Infini wrote: »
    Heard from a good source that Drivers havent even been given so much as roster information as to whos working what when this kicks in and they havent even agreeed to all this yet. For such a significant change to things alot of grief is over the lack of information.

    They have been given rosters.
    The “issues” have arisen after receipt of these rosters.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    We have white smoke folks, good to go.
    Roll on next Monday and let the chaos commence.....

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    We have white smoke folks, good to go.
    Roll on next Monday and let the chaos commence.....

    Better start taking bets on how many weeks Merrion LC goes without some impatient gobshyte charging through it. Pretty sure that sections gonna be a troublespot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,671 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    We have white smoke folks, good to go.
    Roll on next Monday and let the chaos commence.....

    More importantly who came out on top with the issues around rosters?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    More importantly who came out on top with the issues around rosters?

    The traveling public of course ;)

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Infini wrote: »
    Better start taking bets on how many weeks Merrion LC goes without some impatient gobshyte charging through it. Pretty sure that sections gonna be a troublespot.

    Oh I’d imagine those gates will soften a few coughs in the not too distant future.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    We have white smoke folks, good to go.
    Roll on next Monday and let the chaos commence.....

    I know I previously said you have perfect hearing, but I can't say the same for your eyes WCH :)

    Currently we have black smoke in Landsdowne Road and plenty of it, white smoke in time for Monday is looking increasingly unlikely.

    Monday could be an interesting day...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    GM228 wrote: »
    I know I previously said you have perfect hearing, but I can't say the same for your eyes WCH :)

    Currently we have black smoke in Landsdowne Road and plenty of it, white smoke in time for Monday is looking increasingly unlikely.

    Monday could be an interesting day...

    Ah ok. My info must be wrong so. Your source *cough* obviously knows more than mine. I’m off to crack skulls:D.

    Apologies for getting everyone’s hopes up!!:)

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Ah, lads, you're killing us with suspense! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Colonel Claptrap


    I don't know what all the fuss is about. There's plenty of room to stow a cooler bag in a DART driver's cab.

    :)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    I must say I haven't heard positive things about Monday. They may have to defer the timetable to prevent a dispute arising and a disruption to services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,291 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    GM228 wrote: »
    There's a bit more to this than "tea breaks" (we shall leave that argument to the LUAS drivers :)) and in fairness I would not call it disruptive behaviour either, there are two parties at play here and indications (from the WRC perspective anyway) is blame is not always one sided.

    Is this dispute possibly going to delay these timetable changes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,291 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    devnull wrote: »
    I must say I haven't heard positive things about Monday. They may have to defer the timetable to prevent a dispute arising and a disruption to services.

    I'm highly biased on this given that I would have been losing my express trains from Portmarnock into Connolly... So I hope you're right


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,542 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Infini wrote: »
    Heard from a good source that Drivers havent even been given so much as roster information as to whos working what when this kicks in and they havent even agreeed to all this yet. For such a significant change to things alot of grief is over the lack of information.

    You definitely heard wrong my friend


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    Talks are concluded, and there is mainly white smoke, 10 minute DART should commence Monday, but, it is possible there may be some industrial unrest.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    GM228 wrote: »
    Talks are concluded, and there is mainly white smoke, 10 minute DART should commence Monday, but, it is possible there may be some industrial unrest.

    If trains don't turn up or are disrupted due to operational issues, I guess we know what it is :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,671 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    devnull wrote: »
    If trains don't turn up or are disrupted due to operational issues, I guess we know what it is :)

    All trains will run or no trains will run unless there is a sudden illness in driver grade.

    Unions should be ensuring full compliance tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    All trains will run or no trains will run unless there is a sudden illness in driver grade.

    This is not certain


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Unions should be ensuring full compliance tomorrow.

    Believe it or not they actually tried to, however the issue is with their members, not the union and it has caused severe division between drivers.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    GM228 wrote: »
    This is not certain

    Believe it or not they actually tried to, however the issue is with their members, not the union and it has caused severe division between drivers.

    So we're talking about possible unofficial industrial action?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    devnull wrote: »
    So we're talking about possible unofficial industrial action?

    It is certainly a possibility.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    So I use the Dart every week day and there has been zero station information or publicity on this. Going to be a lot of confused commuters tomorrow.


  • Moderators Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭LEIN


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    So I use the Dart every week day and there has been zero station information or publicity on this. Going to be a lot of confused commuters tomorrow.

    It was displayed on the real time boards between the current train and station calls, the following two trains and all of the broken lifts from Rosslare to Dundalk.

    Surely that was enough, no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Rashers72


    LEIN wrote: »
    It was displayed on the real time boards between the current train and station calls, the following two trains and all of the broken lifts from Rosslare to Dundalk.

    Surely that was enough, no?
    While I would kind of agree, they really should have made some PA announcements, even if automated on repeat, especially Thurs, Friday and Sat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    I thought Maynooth lines were going to be increased, especially on weekends?

    Still seem to be hourly services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭thomasj


    BlondeBomb wrote:
    I thought Maynooth lines were going to be increased, especially on weekends?

    BlondeBomb wrote:
    Still seem to be hourly services.

    Won't be until December


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,671 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    GM228 wrote: »
    This is not certain

    Believe it or not they actually tried to, however the issue is with their members, not the union and it has caused severe division between drivers.

    They have not tried hard enough! They were successful last year after the unofficial unrest.

    Immediate dismissal from the union and IE actually taking legal action to recover financial loss, appears last years apparent action was quietly swept under the carpet?

    I still think full service will run but we shall see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    So I use the Dart every week day and there has been zero station information or publicity on this. Going to be a lot of confused commuters tomorrow.

    They don't print out timetables anymore these days. You have to download the PDF off the website now for a timetable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    Infini wrote: »
    They don't print out timetables anymore these days. You have to download the PDF off the website now for a timetable.

    Right but what percentage of commuters are aware that there's a new timetable in place....particularly those who are about to experience a significant change such as entirely losing a commuter service at peak times.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    Right but what percentage of commuters are aware that there's a new timetable in place....particularly those who are about to experience a significant change such as entirely losing a commuter service at peak times.

    You'll never get everyone no matter how much you try to be fair. Some people are idiot's unfortunately you can have a big sign up telling them about it and they don't even LOOK at the damn thing half the time such is their lack of awareness of their own surroundings.


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