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Irish Rail September Timetable Changes

  • 29-11-2017 7:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭ Jamie2k9
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    Looks like they are pressing ahead with in during the first half of 2018!
    Iarnród Éireann plans a further and more significant timetable revision in the first half of 2018 to enhance DART frequency, off-peak Maynooth services and other changes, subject to a full public consultation process, and the approval of the National Transport Authority.

    http://www.irishrail.ie/news/newtimetable2017


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    The original enhanced timetable which was due to come in on December 10th is pushed back to May 2018 - but it had no 10 minute DART services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭ thomasj
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    GM228 wrote:
    The original enhanced timetable which was due to come in on December 10th is pushed back to May 2018 - but it had no 10 minute DART services.

    GM228 wrote:
    The original enhanced timetable which was due to come in on December 10th is pushed back to May 2018 - but it had no 10 minute DART services.

    What about the maynooth line?

    The big issues there were always the off peak frequency along with last services especially Sunday .


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ loyatemu
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    I assume now that the pay dispute is sorted (have they voted on it yet?) they'll try and press ahead with the 10 minute Dart schedule.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    thomasj wrote: »
    What about the maynooth line?

    The big issues there were always the off peak frequency along with last services especially Sunday .

    There will be extra Maynooths from next May (assuming that date does not change again) with Saturday and Sunday becoming a half hourly service, and yes there will be late Sunday services, same as the rest of the week (23.08 to Maynooth and 23.10 ex Maynooth). Most Maynooth services which currently operate to/from Pearse will operate to/from GCD except those which could clash with PPT services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    I assume now that the pay dispute is sorted (have they voted on it yet?) they'll try and press ahead with the 10 minute Dart schedule.

    The pay dispute is not sorted yet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭ thomasj
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    GM228 wrote:
    There will be extra Maynooths from next May (assuming that date does not change again) with Saturday and Sunday becoming a half hourly service, and yes there will be late Sunday services, same as the rest of the week (23.08 to Maynooth and 23.10 ex Maynooth). Most Maynooth services which currently operate to/from Pearse will operate to/from GCD except those which could clash with PPT services.

    You've made my week!


  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭ XPS_Zero
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    With every dart being late, this in reality means we'll finally get 15 minute dart frequency - yay!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,468 ✭✭✭✭ lawred2
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    10 minute dart my hole. They can't keep to the existing schedule as it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭ Infini
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    Honestly I dont even see why they keep trying to push this 10min DART when they refuse to upgrade the physical infrastructure to be able to cope with it. This 10min service has been pushed forever but I wish they would honestly give up on it for the moment and focus on upgrades to the line itself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭ Infini
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    GM228 wrote: »
    There will be extra Maynooths from next May (assuming that date does not change again) with Saturday and Sunday becoming a half hourly service, and yes there will be late Sunday services, same as the rest of the week (23.08 to Maynooth and 23.10 ex Maynooth). Most Maynooth services which currently operate to/from Pearse will operate to/from GCD except those which could clash with PPT services.

    Make's sense to use the turnback facility at GCD for Maynooth Line services when there's no Hazelhatch service there. Much easier for drivers to change ends and it doesnt block the running line as well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    10 minute DARTs back on track.

    https://lovindublin.com/news/ten-minute-darts--introduced-later-this-year
    While an agreement was reached through the Labour Court in April, the National Bus and Railworkers Union has said that agreements with drivers still have to be finalised before the service can be rolled out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭ thomasj
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    What does the plan for all day ppt services for plans to terminate Maynooth trains in GCD?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    thomasj wrote: »
    What does the plan for all day ppt services for plans to terminate Maynooth trains in GCD?

    The idea floated was that peak PPT will exclusively use GCD and peak Maynooth will continue to operate as now, and that off-peak PPT and Maynooth will share GCD.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭ thomasj
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    GM228 wrote:
    The idea floated was that peak PPT will exclusively use GCD and peak Maynooth will continue to operate as now, and that off-peak PPT and Maynooth will share GCD.

    That's great news makes perfect sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭ CFC007
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    Is there anything been done about extending the Hazel Hatch service to GCD. I thought this was the route mentioned in the section with Phoenix Park tunnel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,602 ✭✭✭✭ end of the road
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    CFC007 wrote: »
    Is there anything been done about extending the Hazel Hatch service to GCD. I thought this was the route mentioned in the section with Phoenix Park tunnel?

    i thought it already runs to gcd? is this not the case?

    julian the journalist asange is innocent, free julian the journalist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    CFC007 wrote: »
    Is there anything been done about extending the Hazel Hatch service to GCD. I thought this was the route mentioned in the section with Phoenix Park tunnel?

    The GCD services already operate to/from Hazelhatch or Newbridge during peak times, since the start there has been aspirations to run all day and that is set to happen in the near future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,304 ✭✭✭ cgcsb
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    progress is to be welcomed I suppose. Just shocking that the NBRU is setting the policy and not the NTA. But sure the rapid advancement of driverless technology means the NBRU probably won't be around by the 2030s.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,602 ✭✭✭✭ end of the road
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    cgcsb wrote: »
    progress is to be welcomed I suppose. Just shocking that the NBRU is setting the policy and not the NTA. But sure the rapid advancement of driverless technology means the NBRU probably won't be around by the 2030s.

    the NBRU will be around for decades to come. they are going nowhere. drivers aren't the only staff on the railway and even then they will be still in that cab long after 2030.

    julian the journalist asange is innocent, free julian the journalist.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 168 ✭✭ dublinbuster
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    cgcsb wrote: »
    . Just shocking that the NBRU is setting the policy and not the NTA. But sure the rapid advancement of driverless technology means the NBRU probably won't be around by the 2030s.

    surprise surprise SIPTU are more militant than NBRU
    posters round here have got to lay of the anti union cool aid, they are clearly clueless


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    After many years of delays the long awaited 10 minute DART is to commence from September 9th*. Full 10 minute service is to operate between 7.00 and 20.00 weekdays.

    *Subject to acceptance by drivers (which could be an issue due to talks taking place surrounding other issues).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭ thomasj
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    I see that Maynooth line services post 9th September have been taken down off the website. Will we see them changes too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭ Working class heroes
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    GM228 wrote: »
    After many years of delays the long awaited 10 minute DART is to commence from September 9th*. Full 10 minute service is to operate between 7.00 and 20.00 weekdays.

    *Subject to acceptance by drivers (which could be an issue due to talks taking place surrounding other issues).

    Would I be right in saying that other issues have been set aside to provide a dedicated day for the drivers at the WRC, next Wednesday?

    A man who knows he knows nothing knows more than a man who thinks he knows everything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    thomasj wrote: »
    I see that Maynooth line services post 9th September have been taken down off the website. Will we see them changes too?

    Just some minor adjustments to allow the 10 minute DARTs, despite being just a few weeks away it is not yet finalised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭ GM228
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    Would I be right in saying that other issues have been set aside to provide a dedicated day for the drivers at the WRC, next Wednesday?

    There are a few issues being dealt with at the WRC and none relate directly to the 10 minute DART service, indirectly however they do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭ Working class heroes
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    GM228 wrote: »
    There are a few issues being dealt with at the WRC and none relate directly to the 10 minute DART service, indirectly however they do.

    Gotcha!

    A man who knows he knows nothing knows more than a man who thinks he knows everything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭ Ireland trains
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    thomasj wrote: »
    I see that Maynooth line services post 9th September have been taken down off the website. Will we see them changes too?
    There was supposed to be a half hourly service to maynooth but i assume this has been deffered to December or cancelled


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭ Jamie2k9
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    GM228 wrote: »
    After many years of delays the long awaited 10 minute DART is to commence from September 9th*. Full 10 minute service is to operate between 7.00 and 20.00 weekdays.

    *Subject to acceptance by drivers (which could be an issue due to talks taking place surrounding other issues).

    Common sense prevails at least its a realistic 10 minute schedule. Hope its not just a temporary before full 10 min.

    What could drivers possibly need to discuss now, it just never ends...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭ dublinman1990
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    That's great news that the 10 minute DART will be going ahead by then. Who is the source of that news & why does it only have to run from 7am to 8pm? I thought it could go longer than 8pm because demand could be still be steady at that hour of the night. There is a good few passengers who do use it currently after 8pm whenever I would use it from town sometimes. I could put the 10 minute DART from 7am to 10pm & then demand would drop off afterwards.

    What will be the frequency after 8pm? Will it be every 20 minutes or what?

    Also how many carriages will be in use for each DART train between 7am & 8pm?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭ Infini
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    I'd say it would be just every 15m after 8pm. Also to be fair the luas runs at 12~15m intervals late in the evenings during the week too.

    Another thing is that this could be a testing the water's issue as well as I know there might be issue's with those level crossings on the south side for example as well as wondering if it will be realistic to maintain a 10m frequency with the commuter's thrown into the mix.


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