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Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Ye a straight line at an angle since LHO was on the 6th floor of the TSBD,

That's a straight line at an elevated position height as i have already said.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

That's a straight line at an elevated position height as i have already said.

do you understand what the word horizontal means?

Tipsy McSwagger

Oswald's second shot bullet trajectory.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Bullet change direction and don't travel in a straight line from the barrel of the gun?

i'm answering my own question here but i really dont think you do understand what the word horizontal means.

Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Oswald's second shot bullet trajectory.

Wrong picture and we're discussing the head shot. Sometimes i worry about you people! This is not the direction the first shot that impacted Kennedy moved.

Cheerful Spring

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm answering my own question here but i really dont think you do understand what the word horizontal means.

A bullet travels in a straight line. I told you already the bullet traveled at a elevation.

What you don't seem to understand or grasp a bullet can not change direction. The bullet travels in a straight line. The bullet is travelling from TSB to Kennedy Skull and it not deviating of course the line is straight at an angle.

horizontal is just the opposite of vertical, it meaningless here.

Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger@ Just to enlighten you the wound was a back wound not a neck wound.

This is the nonsense the Warren Commission believes.

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The Nal I had to use paint program it's crude way to highlight this.





Orange part; is the likely trajectory of the bullet would enter and exit if the shot came from the Texas School Book Depository.

Errrr.... what? Are you on acid? You drew a straight line at road level? ie if you follow that line to source its about head height on Elm Street. And youer knoll line is coming from the street below. Like someone was lying in the other lane on the road beside the car,

Have you any idea about the geography of Dealey Plaza?

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Tipsy McSwagger@ Just to enlighten you the wound was a back wound not a neck wound.

This is the nonsense the Warren Commission believes.

And again! Conveniently left out the actual photo of the actual bullet hole in the actual place.

The diagram above shows the bullet hole at armpit level. When the proof - note the word proof - in the photo shows anything but that.



And the diagram has Connolly sitting at the same height as JFK which wasn't the case.

Cheerful Spring

tomwaterford wrote: »

For your pic to be accurate....the shot would have to have come from street level?

Line of sight is more important. The picture Oswald saw when he was looking through the scope!When the bullet left the gun was travelling a straight line all the way up till the final impact with Kennedy. My paint/photograph is not meant to be taken as gospel. It just Representative the likely direction the bullet would travel after it hit Kennedy. Wherever you choose to place the orange line. Mrs Kennedy and Mrs Connolly and Mr Connolly are all in the firing line of the bullet!

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

Errrr.... what? Are you on acid? You drew a straight line? ie if you follow that line to source its about head height on Elm Street. And you're knoll line is coming from the street below. Like someone was lying in the other lane on the road beside the car,

Have you any idea about the geography of Dealey Plaza?




And again! Conveniently left out the actual photo of the actual bullet hole in the actual place.

The diagram above shows the bullet hole at armpit level. When the proof - note the word proof - in the photo shows anything but that.



And the diagram has Connolly sitting at the same height as JFK which wasn't the case.

It like talking with children who can't comprehend. The lines only represent the direction the bullet came from. The president Motorcade stopped near the Grassy Knool when a bullet hit him in the head.

Death certificate places the wound at the third thoracic vertebra ( this is below the neck area for a throat wound at the front!) We also have to ignore the Autopsy/ Doctor drawings that place the wound below the neck area. We also have to ignore the bullet hole in Kennedy coat and shirt all at the back below the neck. Three pieces of hard evidence of a back wound below the neck. And two FBI agents who attended the autopsy (James Sibert and Francis O'Neill), located the wound below the shoulder. Even your photograph has a hole bullet wound below the neck.

[B]I never ever said Kennedy was not hit with a bullet from behind! It clear as day a bullet hit ( front or back) as he lifted both hands up to his throat region.
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The Warren Commission findings after this i disbelieve and i have gone over the evidence to why i don't believe And there is just no possible way Connolly and Kennedy felt the impact of the bullet at the same time. Connolly does not believe this. The Zaprauder film backs up Connolly believe 100 per cent. You want to be completely brainwashed to not see Kennedy was hit by a separate bullet Frame 223-224 and Connolly around frame 235 after swinging around to look over his right shoulder.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

A bullet travels in a straight line. I told you already the bullet traveled at a elevation.

What you don't seem to understand or grasp a bullet can not change direction. The bullet travels in a straight line. The bullet is travelling from TSB to Kennedy Skull and it not deviating of course the line is straight at an angle.

horizontal is just the opposite of vertical, it meaningless here.

yes they can. If they strike a hard object they can change course. Like bone for instance.

ohnonotgmail

The Nal wrote: »

Errrr.... what? Are you on acid? You drew a straight line at road level? ie if you follow that line to source its about head height on Elm Street. And youer knoll line is coming from the street below. Like someone was lying in the other lane on the road beside the car,

Have you any idea about the geography of Dealey Plaza?




And again! Conveniently left out the actual photo of the actual bullet hole in the actual place.

The diagram above shows the bullet hole at armpit level. When the proof - note the word proof - in the photo shows anything but that.



And the diagram has Connolly sitting at the same height as JFK which wasn't the case.

who needs photographs of the actual event when you have a picture that a 5 year old would be embarrassed by?

Cheerful Spring

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

yes they can. If they strike a hard object they can change course. Like bone for instance.

Read my post 670!

Cheerful Spring

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

who needs photographs of the actual event when you have a picture that a 5 year old would be embarrassed by?

This back wound does not match up with the throat wound.


Marked in Red could be a spot of blood. The hole below is the bullet wound, smaller but you can see abrasion.

Cheerful Spring

It important people watch this video to understand the problems with the single bullet theory.

Cheerful Spring

JFK tv Show with Skeptics.

Nal. Kept posting this guys video here so i just going to show you a massive flaw with the Myers video.

Notice the seating position of Kennedy and Connolly. Myer places them closer together to fit his theory!



This is one is beautiful. Skeptics claiming they replicated the single bullet theory shot. A bullet hitting the back ( is now the neck where they go school) and the arm left side is now the throat area. These are people teaching kids about the Kennedy assassination.



You can watch this amazing Skeptic video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZRUNYZY71g

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

This back wound does not match up with the throat wound.

Yes it does. You are ignoring - or don't know - the fact that Elm St at the plaza is actually on a fairly steep hill. When you consider that, the back and throat wound match perfectly with a shot from the 6th floor of the TSBD.

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Nal. Kept posting this guys video here so i just going to show you a massive flaw with the Myers video.

Notice the seating position of Kennedy and Connolly. Myer places them closer together to fit his theory!

Ive already posted the proofing of his model where it shows the Zapruder film superimposed over Myers model. Its fits perfectly. If you haven't bothered watching it then fair enough. Its undeniable proof.

You've just posted a snapshot of the model and a photo, at different angles at different times which proves nothing.

Charmeleon wrote: »

Connolly was still holding his hat after he collapsed injured into his wife’s lap. Explain that?

He was still holding it when he got to Parkland Hospital! Although CS will ignore this. They probably shot Connally again at the hospital or something.

Cheerful Spring

Watch this if you don't believe a conspiracy happened, it maybe/maybe not change your mind? This is one of the better JFK conspiracy documentaries. You even see a Warren report Commissioner on camera says he has serious doubts we got it right!

Cheerful Spring

I wonder if the guy in the Photograph below was ever questioned? His movement is very suspicious. His turning away walking up the Grassy Knool steps exactly at the point time Kennedy head got blown off and you see Mrs Kennedy jump up. A normal human being reaction would be stop, stare and look the President way. Not this guy his off on a walk to somewhere?

ohnonotgmail

i love how some people think they can come up with a new angle on probably the most investigated event in the 20th century

Cheerful Spring

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i love how some people think they can come up with a new angle on probably the most investigated event in the 20th century

I don't see anything online about this guy who turned away. Maybe there is something online about it i just have not found it. I just noticed this guy suspicious movement when i was watching a JFK vid.

Whiplash85

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i love how some people think they can come up with a new angle on probably the most investigated event in the 20th century

No you dont. Inside you are privately seething.

Tipsy McSwagger

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i love how some people think they can come up with a new angle on probably the most investigated event in the 20th century

The case is closed. It was a peasant killing a king and that's what a lot of people refuse to accept.

ohnonotgmail

Whiplash85 wrote: »

No you dont. Inside you are privately seething.

eh, no. but thanks for adding to my mirth.

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I wonder if the guy in the Photograph below was ever questioned? His movement is very suspicious. His turning away walking up the Grassy Knool steps exactly at the point time Kennedy head got blown off and you see Mrs Kennedy jump up. A normal human being reaction would be stop, stare and look the President way. Not this guy his off on a walk to somewhere?

He was interviewed yeah, he was trying to find cover. Interestingly ran towards the direction of the alleged shooter behind the fence, which is an odd move. The guy in the red does it too.

He said the shots came from the TSBD direction. He was 10 feet from the picket fence so obviously would've heard a shot from there. But didn't. People don't tend to run in the direction of the gunfire. And there is no possible way that they wouldn't have heard that shot from 10 odd feet away.

ohnonotgmail

The Nal wrote: »

He was interviewed yeah, he was trying to find cover. Interestingly ran towards the direction of the alleged shooter behind the fence, which is an odd move. The guy in the red does it too.

He said the shots came from the TSBD direction. He was 10 feet from the picket fence so obviously would've heard a shot from there. But didn't. People don't tend to run in the direction of the gunfire. And there is no possible way that they wouldn't have heard that shot from 10 odd feet away.

they used a silencer and timed their shot to match with oswalds. am i doing this CT thing correctly?

Tipsy McSwagger

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they used a silencer and timed their shot to match with oswalds. am i doing this CT thing correctly?

It was Pennywise in the storm drain🤡

The Nal

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they used a silencer and timed their shot to match with oswalds. am i doing this CT thing correctly?

And they had cloaking devices.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

He was interviewed yeah, he was trying to find cover. Interestingly ran towards the direction of the alleged shooter behind the fence, which is an odd move. The guy in the red does it too.

He said the shots came from the TSBD direction. He was 10 feet from the picket fence so obviously would've heard a shot from there. But didn't. People don't tend to run in the direction of the gunfire. And there is no possible way that they wouldn't have heard that shot from 10 odd feet away.

I contacted a JFK researcher to identify the man. He told me the young man who walked away has never been identified officially. Only one man of the three men on the steps has testified

Emmett j Hudson. His testimony to the Warren Commission is sketchy and very contradictory. His job was the ground keeper of Dealey Plaza employed by Dallas Police.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hudson.htm

Emmet Hudson describes meeting a young man and had a brief conversation. This is all we know about the man

Mr. HUDSON - Well there was a young fellow, oh, I would judge his age about in his late twenties. He said he had been looking for a place to park and he walked up there and he said he finally just taken a place over there in one of them parking lots, and he come on down there and said he worked over there on Industrial and me and him both just sat there first on those steps.

There is a picture of a young man with similar clothing photographed later with a woman and a baby. You can possible make up the scenario this was the man returning to his wife/girlfriend left alone? In the 1960's be strange thing to leave your wife alone? And in brief conversation with Emmet Hudson made no mention of Wife and child.

Cheerful Spring

A JFK document just released yesterday/ HSCA testimony. Security Class Testimony.


James B wilcott a CIA agent testifies under Oath. Oswald was a government agent for the CIA. He goes onto say CIA friends told him Oswald was trained by the CIA in Japan years before the assassination. One friend at the CIA told him he directly wired money for the Oswald Project prior to Kennedy shooting. Wilcott also said the CIA may have grown tired of Oswald after he returned from the Soviet Union ( speculation and what he heard said in the agency)

His testimony here if you like to read it for yourself.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32263407.pdf